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Twidgies Mom

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Hello from Twidgie's Mom and Twidgie!

Twidgie is a 14 year old cat who is extremely good-natured and patient. Did I mention he's jet black? Very cool cat.

Since December 10, 2012, when I first took him to his regular vet, his pooz were terribly smelly. That vet could determine no reason for it, after running the usual panel of tests (blood). His blood glucose level was within normal range.

I was advised of a vet a few miles away that, I was told, was a true "guru" in diagnosing cat diseases; so we made an appointment. That vet wasn't too sure what was going on with the Twidge, after running her own usual panel of tests (blood). Again his BGL was in normal range. She thought perhaps his pancreas was involved, so she sent a sample of blood to Texas A & M. The report came back showing that his pancreas was definitely not operating the way it should. So she gave us a prescription for Prednisone, thinking that perhaps that might calm down the pancreas. It did not. Next she put him on Prednisone and explained that this is what she had wanted for Twidgie to begin with, but they didn't have any at the clinic at the time so that's why she gave him Prednisone.

When we told her there was no change in the stinky poopers, Dr. G ordered a regimen of Prednisolone, advising us that this medication was really more for cats than the Prednisone. Lovely. We were also giving him Tylan powder which really did succeed in making his poo more like NORMAL poo, as opposed to poo the texture of water or pudding. It didn't take so long for him to poo, because he could actually do almost a regular textured poo.

A month or so later, Dr. G came out of the lab and proclaimed, "You have a diabetic cat!" And all the while I'm thinking, "All I came here for was to check out a case of stinky poopers and now this cat, whose BGL was always normal, has diabetes. What the _ _ _ _ are they doing to my cat?!?!?!?!

So then it was insulin and a special diet. Neither seems to work. Most of the time, I mix regular canned cat food that he's eaten for years in with the prescription food; that's the only way he'll eat it.Someone mentioned "Fancy Feast"' I have not tried it yet. Have you?
(I even had a friend drive me out into the country, where I purchased a cow pancreas. According to the website, this was "the thing" to help his pancreas. He would not touch it, even when I ground it up. Twidgie turned it down and wouldn't eat it. Neither would any of the other cats

When we took him to the vet clinic a couple weeks ago, Dr. S. told us she had looked through all of Twidgie's paperwork and said, "We caused his diabetes. It's our fault." Well, I was delighted to hear someone take ownership for screwing up a perfectly good cat!

So now Mr. Twidge has diabetes on top of whatever-the-problem is that I took him there to begin with. Now he sometimes awakens from a nap and doesn't seem to know where he is and wanders about for a minute to refresh his memory. The BGL refuses to go down. Something inside is definitely bothering him, because when he goes to sit down, he does it very carefully, as if not being so careful would be painful for him. Other times, he just plops down. He's back to squirting poo, as opposed to having a normal bowel movement, without the Tylan powder. We were also given Pancrea enzyme to give him--that required pilling and he does not like to be pilled! I don't know, but I can tell you for sure: If I passed gas and it smelled like Twidgie's passed gas, I'd surmise that something must be seriously wrong with something inside. I was thinking, 'how bad MY tummy would feel that would cause me to pass gas where the odor alone was that ungodly awful!

Here's a shocker for you: He is scheduled to be put down Monday at 3:00. The last time we were there, Dr.S said she would go either way--euthanize or not--and understood our feelings in the matter (but she didn't offer her own opinion). My daughter brought up the fact that while we're spending all this money to try and save Twidgie, the 3 other cats were waiting for their trip to the vet for vaccinations, etc, not to mention the obvious extra time with Twidgie that I suppose took some play time away from the other cats. But they can tell he's sick and don't seem deprived of our affection.

Well, there you have it. The story of Twidgie's smelly poo and DrG's addition of diabetes to his health problems. Comments?

Thanks for reading this madness. When we had Twidge to the vet a couple weeks ago, my daughter thought I was going to have him euthanized then. The thing is, I've been fighting so hard for my Twidge, it's difficult to just let him go, to end all hope for recovery--from either issue--and put my best buddy out of his misery. What a way to end this mini-story! Well, that's life, I know; but I hate when life serves up stuff that's so emotionally painful.

Again, thanks for reading this. I guess at this point, I could really use some moral support. It's difficult to hug on the internet, but I sure could do with few hugs!

gayl & Mr. Twidge
 
Oh Gayl and Mr. Twidgie, I am sorry that you have had a difficult time. We do have a great resource for Pancreatitis that may be helpful.


http://www.felinediabetes.com/FDMB/viewtopic.php?f=14&t=83108

As far as the diabetes, the best advice I have is to feed a wet low carb food and start testing at home. Yes, many of us feed Fancy Feast - the pates are low carb. This vet is a great resource, not only for getting reluctant cats to eat, but she has an excellent food chart. Her website is www.catinfo.org. Testing at home will help you see what his blood glucose levels are and what, if any, impact that has on his well being. We have taught hundreds of people to test; we would love to teach you.

As far as letting him go, that is so difficult. The best thing I know is to look at what his quality of life is like. Can he do the things he loved to do? does he seem to be in pain?
 
1) Yes, the prednisone may increase glucose levels.

2) If it was inflammatory bowel disease, the prednisone should have helped some.

3) If something attacked his pancreas, it could take out the digestive enzyme production as well as the insulin production. Horrific, large, foul-smelling poo is classic for this condition. Discuss enzyme supplementation with your vet.
 
This sounds remarkably like what we were fighting with KT this last year. KT's was likely Exocrine Pancreatic insufficiency (EPI). We treated it as such which worked for us. Every cat is different.... :-D

Here is a link to a 'Veterinary News'..could years old but it still applies.

EPI Info

HUGS! I'm sorry you've had such a hard road....
 
Twidgies Mom said:
... Well, that's life, I know; but I hate when life serves up stuff that's so emotionally painful.

I guess at this point, I could really use some moral support. It's difficult to hug on the internet, but I sure could do with few hugs!
gayl & Mr. Twidge

My girl has pancreatitis too, and I have some idea of what you might be going through and it's awful hard. I don't have answers for you, Gayl, but this I can do ...

((((((((Gayl)))))))) and cat_pet_icon Mr Twidgie cat_pet_icon

It shines from your words how much you love your boy. I don't blame you one iota for fighting so hard for him. He sounds like my girl - black, good-natured and patient.
 
This sounds like exocrine pancreatic insufficiency, in which the body doesn't make enzymes required to actually digest food. The result is really really stinky, sometimes even oily or fatty poo. The blood test that your vet did basically confirmed it and that's why he needs to be on Tylan powder. There is no synthetic alternative and most options are porcine-derived. We've have several cases of this at the vet where I work but I used to work with this condition all the time in my Cystic Fibrosis population. I have had human patients develop diabetes due to pancreatic damage over time. I don't have an animal example but it's plausible that it could also happen to a cat or dog. There are similarities and differences in pretty much all the diseases between humans and pets. It could be that Mr. Twidgie makes less insulin than he used to and the pred just threw things out of whack. It's possible he'll go into remission but he may just need extra insulin...hard to say.

What kind of enzymes are you using now? Are they powdered or in a capsule? I feel for you - none of these options are particularly palatable.
 
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