Diabetes and ibs

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Jtcatt

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My 12 year old cat, Kitten has diabetes and ibs. She is on 1.5 of prozinc and her numbers are finally improving. Had our first under 300 reading today. She's running and playing again. But everytime I up her insulin it causes her ibs to act up and she has watery brown diarrhea that stinks. Eating a lot if wet food is also making it worse. It's been 3 months since she switched to mostly wet but it's too much for her tummy. I can't put her on steroids for ibs because of the diabetes. Any ideas?
 
I have a young cat (not my diabetic) who has IBD. The only things that seem to help her when she has flares are S.boulardii and Slippery Elm Bark (SEB). You can make a sort of slurry with the SEB or just mix the powder into their food - mine didn't like the slurry so I just mix it up in her food. SEB has to be given at least two hours before or after any other oral meds as it can block the absorption of them. You can also try adding a small amount - 1/2 tsp or so - of pure pumpkin puree to her food, just make sure you get the plain pumpkin and not the pie filling with all the spices in it!
 
She is an extremely picky eater. Won't touch pumpkin or any people food actually. Mixing things in food is a no go also. I'd have to give it to her with a med syringe. It's ok to give a diabetic cat? Thank you for responding.
 
She is an extremely picky eater. Won't touch pumpkin or any people food actually. Mixing things in food is a no go also. I'd have to give it to her with a med syringe. It's ok to give a diabetic cat? Thank you for responding.
Yes, it's fine to give to a diabetic. A lot of folks on here use it. If you have to syringe it, you can brew the slurry (they call it a tea, but it's thick-ish, not at all like a tea). Make sure you get it without any additives. I get mine from Amazon.

ETA: I don't use it long-term as I am concerned that it may block the absorption of nutrients, but it's fine for a couple of weeks until the diarrhea is firmly under control.
 
My kitty Leo was diagnosed about 4 weeks ago with diabetes and he already had IBD. For some reason his diabetes went to remission quickly (maybe transient diabetes and maybe not-not sure yet). His specialist has said that she did not want to put him on prednisone but would consider Budesonide which is an anti inflammatory but doesn't quite effect them systemically like pred does. It is in her opinion a better option for diabetic cats who have IBD. IBD in cats can become really frustrating in finding a diet that works for them and that they'll eat. It takes a lot of patience and trial and error. I found a single protein limited ingredient canned food that seems to agree with Leo more than others. Good luck with your kitty. I know how frustrating all this can be.
 
My kitty Leo was diagnosed about 4 weeks ago with diabetes and he already had IBD. For some reason his diabetes went to remission quickly (maybe transient diabetes and maybe not-not sure yet). His specialist has said that she did not want to put him on prednisone but would consider Budesonide which is an anti inflammatory but doesn't quite effect them systemically like pred does. It is in her opinion a better option for diabetic cats who have IBD. IBD in cats can become really frustrating in finding a diet that works for them and that they'll eat. It takes a lot of patience and trial and error. I found a single protein limited ingredient canned food that seems to agree with Leo more than others. Good luck with your kitty. I know how frustrating all this can be.
I went through over a year of trying different foods until I found one that my IBD baby could eat - and would eat, she's very picky! The problem is that after a while she'll decide not to eat it, so we go back to the drawing board. *sigh*
 
Yeah, finding something she will eat that also isn't too high in carbs is a huge challenge. I've been reading that people di good feeding them duck, rabbit or venison as the protein but the carbs seem to be high in them and I'm already feeding her some dry food daily so I'm skeptical. She gets dry because the more wet she eats the worse things get.
 
The one that my girl handled the best was lamb, I got Nature's Variety Limited Ingredient canned. She would only eat it for about two weeks though before she decided she didn't like it any more! There are lots of single protein foods that have low carbs, but unfortunately they usually come with a high price tag. I did notice that venison foods made her diarrhea worse - as a matter of fact, it gave all my cats diarrhea, and I tried a few different brands with the same effect.
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This sums up my IBD girl, Candy, quite well, lol!
:):):)
 
The one that my girl handled the best was lamb, I got Nature's Variety Limited Ingredient canned. She would only eat it for about two weeks though before she decided she didn't like it any more! There are lots of single protein foods that have low carbs, but unfortunately they usually come with a high price tag. I did notice that venison foods made her diarrhea worse - as a matter of fact, it gave all my cats diarrhea, and I tried a few different brands with the same effect.
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This sums up my IBD girl, Candy, quite well, lol!
:):):)
Omg, isn't that the truth. Smh, silly kitties.
 
Leo is on HillsDD grain Free limited ingredient duck canned which is ok but I don't think it's the lowest in carbs. His bowel movements have been great now but unfortunately his has had a flare up of vomiting due to hair balls he can't get rid of naturally. I just received a case of Natures Variety Instincts limited ingredient grain free duck to try and transition. It's very high in protein and I believe lower in carbs than the Hills DD. He loves the duck but the smell is really really bad! The whole house smells like this food so I have to wash his bowels right after he eats.
 
Leo is on HillsDD grain Free limited ingredient duck canned which is ok but I don't think it's the lowest in carbs. His bowel movements have been great now but unfortunately his has had a flare up of vomiting due to hair balls he can't get rid of naturally. I just received a case of Natures Variety Instincts limited ingredient grain free duck to try and transition. It's very high in protein and I believe lower in carbs than the Hills DD. He loves the duck but the smell is really really bad! The whole house smells like this food so I have to wash his bowels right after he eats.
Yes, I tried the same food with my cats. It does smell awful. None of my cats wanted to eat much of it. The one with IBD, who I bought it for in the first place, wouldn't touch it, lol!
 
Trying to find things she will eat is pretty much like playing the lottery. You may win $5 here and there but you are always turning around and giving it back. Ooh I love this food but only today then I will never touch it again. Ugh
 
You got that right! It's pretty darn frustrating. Thank goodness Leo has been on his duck diet for several months and still likes it. I do sprinkle a small amount of Forti Flora over the food which can be a real appetite stimulant for him. He loves the aroma too. Yuck! Maybe it smells like a dead mouse to him.
 
Jones has IBD(possible lymphoma) and had severe pancreatitis, that if something made anything flare up I was done with that food. He lost a tremendous about of weight and with the diabetes from the steroid given (pred), I needed him to eat! And I did the dance - he would eat something for two days and then stop eating eat it. I had food everywhere.

Have you ever considered allergy testing? It was suggested by a member here to get Jones tested (which the clinic one can be expensive) but actually suggested this one. ImmuneIQ. This is linked to groupon where you can order it. Best money I spent so far I think. You will see a line in my signature - Allergy Report if you want to see a sample of the report you will receive. It was quick and easy. It at least allowed me to know the red zone items - what to definitely avoid! Which oddly enough I was giving Tuna as an enticement to eat - that was the wrong thing to do! I recently went through all the food I was feeding him and ones I wanted to try to see how many of them had red zone (allergic to) items in it or a lot of the yellow zone(don't hurt but don't help either) items. It was an eye opening experience. Since I have done that and selected the best canned food I can, he shifts less frequently and it more of a - I am done with salmon, can I get some lamb please type of thing.
 
Jones has IBD(possible lymphoma) and had severe pancreatitis, that if something made anything flare up I was done with that food. He lost a tremendous about of weight and with the diabetes from the steroid given (pred), I needed him to eat! And I did the dance - he would eat something for two days and then stop eating eat it. I had food everywhere.

Have you ever considered allergy testing? It was suggested by a member here to get Jones tested (which the clinic one can be expensive) but actually suggested this one. ImmuneIQ. This is linked to groupon where you can order it. Best money I spent so far I think. You will see a line in my signature - Allergy Report if you want to see a sample of the report you will receive. It was quick and easy. It at least allowed me to know the red zone items - what to definitely avoid! Which oddly enough I was giving Tuna as an enticement to eat - that was the wrong thing to do! I recently went through all the food I was feeding him and ones I wanted to try to see how many of them had red zone (allergic to) items in it or a lot of the yellow zone(don't hurt but don't help either) items. It was an eye opening experience. Since I have done that and selected the best canned food I can, he shifts less frequently and it more of a - I am done with salmon, can I get some lamb please type of thing.
Is the testing something you can do at home yourself? I'm spending so much on 2 sick animals rightnow that I prob can't afford it anyway.
 
It is a simple swab and gather some hair. It is $45 dollars on Groupon and you mail it in. They email the report back to you.
 
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I found that (after having two cats that had IBD,one with intestinal lymphoma and one with diabetes) once the gastric and intestinal inflammation goes down they can and will eat a more varied diet. Special diets help a lot but if there is on going inflammation any food may upset them. Some more than others.
 
I found that (after having two cats that had IBD,one with intestinal lymphoma and one with diabetes) once the gastric and intestinal inflammation goes down they can and will eat a more varied diet. Special diets help a lot but if there is on going inflammation any food may upset them. Some more than others.
Yes, I have also discovered that with Candy. Once her flares are completely over, she can eventually start eating a few other foods, that I know are pretty safe for her.
 
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