Curt's seemingly worsening neuropathy

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I apologize in advance if this has been discussed before, but theres so much information on here that Im a bit overwhelmed and still confused about FD and proper care and treatment for my lovely sweet kitty Curt, Today marks the 2nd week anniversary of his insulin shots and the 5th day in a row ive been consistently testing. Overall, he seems to be doing much better, His dandruff has cleared up almost completely and his coat is very soft and shiny now. He no longer drinks excessively other than a few sips right after a meal. A board member made a great suggestion to me about adding water to his wet food and that has worked wonders. He licks his bowl clean and all the food and then goes and has a few sips of regular water. His litter box has made it a whole 6 days before having to change it, pre treatment by the 2nd day it was flooded. He is very playful and sweet and purrs all the time and I just know he feels so much better. The only problem - the neuropathy which first alerted me that something was seriously wrong, has not improved or even has worsened in these last 2 weeks. He is not due to the vet for another week, and his purpose of visit is only for a fructosamine test. His vet (which is a Cats Only clinic) said that the neuropathy isnt something that likely will be able to be treated and also mentioned something about his teeth? Im so confused. Im so glad he is feeling so much better, but what is the point if he can barely walk sometimes? Its also very exaggerated after BG testing - since I have to restrain him - once we are through he can only walk a few steps and he has to sit down. So heartbreaking :( Fortunately he has gotten better at the testing (And so have i,) so im able to just gently put a blanket over him and poke him fast enough to where he doesnt struggle too much. Ive heard a lot about B 12 and other things... but is there really any hope that he will regain strength in his hind legs, or at least stop any further deterioration?? I havent done an offical curve, but ive been testing 2 to maybe 3 times a day and his numbers have been pretty consistent - mid 300s pre shot and low to mid 100s within 3 to 5 hours after shot. To me this is a vast improvement to the near 500 he had at DX time and the 400 + he was showing during his last fur shot. I guess my question is will he resolve on his own now that his BG is consistently lower, or will I have to provide other treatment? If its worth anything, they did 500 dollars worth of other tests on his kidneys, liver, heart, thyroid, and everything else came back strong.


Thanks so much..

Tom and Curt.
 

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There are lots of promising signs in your post: less urine, acting better, no dandruff, eating well.

The neuropathy is heart breaking but we haven't had a cat who didn't get back to normal, that I know of. But some cats take a long time. The thinking is that the Methyl B12 helps ( have you seen this page - good info and links. http://petdiabetes.wikia.com/wiki/Neuropathy ). But what really helps is getting the bg levels down.

It's great you are getting better with testing. It is possible that he needs a little more insulin, but you really need more numbers to figure that out. Try to get a preshot am and pm and some midcycle numbers.
 
That's great news you are getting some testing done.

I really think you will see some progress in recovery from the neuropathy with a little bit more time & once the insulin has been in the body for a little bit longer. I remember you said Curt has lost some weight. Once he has gained some weight back I think that will help to.

There are few members who use stuff for neuropathy. I hope they stop by with some advice to help you & Curt.

Curt is a true black beauty! bcatrun_gif Thanks for sharing the pictures.

Jenn & Baxter
 
Thanks for the links everyone, I understand it a bit better now. Looks like Ill be trying the B 12. Will have to ask the vet about the potassium. Whats the link between his teeth and his diabetes? And Jenn yes he is... he is my little panther!! bcatrun_gif
 
If a diabetic needs dental work, sometimes getting the work done will help lower the bg levels. (infections can raise bg levels) Sometimes it really changes things; sometimes not so much.
 
Many of us have used Methyl B12 to help with neuropathy - it really does work, and is based on studies done with human diabetics.

Methylcolbalamin, or Methyl B12, is often available in health food stores, or can be ordered online (Xobaline is a well-tested brand name here. Zobaline is their new cat-specific version of Xobaline, made without fructose or any other sugar-based flavors.). Just make sure it does not contain Xylitol (an artificial sweetener) since it can be toxic to cats and dogs.

We give between 3 and 5mg (3000 - 5000 mcg) per day, regardless of body size. Any excess is excreted in the urine, so no worries about overdosing. Remember - it's METHYL B12. Regular B12 has no effect on neuropathy.

Check out this link: http://www.felinediabetes.com/weak-back-rear-legs.htm

If you scroll down the page you will see how bad my Rambo's (GA) neuropathy was. Trust me, if he recovered from that (and he did!), any kitty can!! It took him a few months to stop walking on his hocks and to be able to climb stairs again, but he did. It's a combination of the Methyl B12 and lowered BGs that does the trick. Be patient. And good luck.
 
Junior has been using Methyl b-12 from Lifelink for several months now, and the change in his neuropathy is unreal! He can go up & down the stairs by himself, runs after his brother, jumps up on the bed and couch now. it is such a change from last June when he couldn't walk more than a few steps at a time, his poor back was hunched over, and his feet were so flat on the ground. I give him 1 3mg tab crushed up in his morning meal every day.

good luck!
 
Others may chime in with a local source, but when I was looking for it I couldn't find it locally. I ended up ordering the LifeLink. The stuff at the drugstore either seems to be regular B12 (vs. methyl-B12, which is what you need) or it has sugar, additives, or flavorings in it that are either not good for cats, or I wasn't sure if they were OK or not. Maybe if you have a good health food store nearby, you might have better luck?
 
Is he able/ willing to play? My dad has neuropathy in his legs due to an aortic dissection. He does better when he exercises regularly. I'd think that getting Curt to stretch his leg muscles might help. My cat Atticus lost some muscle mass since his diagnosis, but I've been trying to work him out more and he's put muscle back on. Something like the feather on the stick, or a laser pointer on the wall so Curt could stand up and stretch his legs out.
 
Maui had neuropathy in her hind legs and it was heart breaking to watch. She would have to stop and rest when walking down the hall and she would slip and slide on the wood floor. I gave her 5 mg methyl B12 daily in her food, sometimes she ate it all, sometimes not.

With insulin regulation, her bg's stabilizing, one day I noticed that she was back on her toes. I continued with methyl B12 until she stopped needing insulin.

I bought mine online at vitacost.com, I bought a capsule that didn't have any flavors or sugars in it. I liked the capsule, as I could easily mix it into the wet food.

If you go to the local store, walmart, gnc, vitamin shop, etc. you can find methyl b12 there as well. Just make sure that it only contains methyl b12 and not another type of b12.

Cats can overcome the neuropathy, but there are some cats that while they don't get back to 100% like Maui did, they do improve and the mb12 really does help.

The other good thing, is this is a vitamin and won't in any way harm the cat or any other animal who may consume it.
 
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