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No action needed, I just need a place to cry, to vent, and this is about a civvie cat issue, so I think this is the right place for this post - if not, please let me know where it should go.

About 2 weeks ago, Seamus the beautiful jerk came down with something where he didn't eat all day and was not behaving like himself. We got him through the night and took him to the vet (twice actually). The vet couldn't find anything wrong, and at the vet he seemed to appear to feel better. He had begun eating and drinking again. The vet sent me home with pain meds in case an internal organ was causing him grief and he just needed it to stop spasming (or whatever) to give his body time to get back to normal. He is back to normal, well minus a little fur. We did shave him into a lion, due to both mats and potential heat concerns. But my beatutiful jerk is back to normal.

But now... now, my oldest cat. My civvie, Runswith, has come down with something. She has had a couple days of throwing up. She threw up the first day, a giant hairball. Then I noticed she wasn't really eating, but she was drinking. So I put her in with Fabby to better watch her. I was able to get her interested in eating Fabby's salmon treats. Eventually throughout the day she began eating a little bit of Fabby's low carb food. About 24 hours later she puked it all up in the middle of the night. The throw up just seemed to be food and mucus. So I didn't push her to eat as long as she was drinking water.
Yesterday, I tried to get her interested in food with no luck. She ate one morsel of her own dry blue buffalo food, and one bite of Salmon treat. Now if I put food or water in front of her she gets up and goes to lay down somewhere else.

She sleeps with her eyes open. She's old. She's not taking in food or water anymore. I'm terrified my little immortal kitty is making her last stand. (I call her immortal because she's old, and because she's had radioactive iodine therapy to kill off her thyroid - successfully.) So I check to see if she's alive several times a day because I can't always see her breathing. 2 decades of my life with this cat. I'm not ready.

If she has whatever Seamus had, they couldn't figure out what it was with him, why would they figure it out with her? Plus, on a holiday weekend I'm looking at a high interest loan just to have them tell me they don't know, and for them to push fluids. So currently I'm getting water in her via syringe. I'm doing 3ml every 2 hours. She hasn't thrown it up so far. Should I be pushing more? My spouse is going to pick up some pedialyte to help.

If I get her to make it until Monday I will take her to the vet. (If they are even going to open on Monday... I think so, but with it being a holiday, IDK.)

I am trying really hard to live by the mantra, don't mourn those that are not dead, but when she sleeps with her eyes open, the fear just takes over. I'm not ready. I need a couple more years. Please.
 
Putting your worries about her age, etc. aside, when I've had a kitty getting sick and not wanting food, my vet would start with the simple advice to withhold food for 12 hours. Keep water available. I suppose you could syringe water in but maybe not too much or too often. This doesn't exactly fit with your timeline but there it is. It's possible that the giant hairball has irritated her stomach or wasn't the only one. There might be another percolating in there.

I had a cat years ago who went totally off her food because of steroids that had disrupted her hair shedding cycles. When she went off the steroid, she shed a lot, some of that fur irritated her tummy (not even actual fur balls) and she stopped eating. There's more to that story but I'll end it there ...
 
I'm sorry Runswith is not feeling well :bighug::bighug::bighug:. It sounds like something else is in her tummy and making her nauseas. Maybe another hairball? When was the last time she ate something and how much?
 
Oh I'm sooo sorry you are having more sick kitty problems. You need these..... :bighug::bighug::bighug:

My old guy can have a couple of days of feeling/looking like crap, eating very little if at all but drinking copious amounts of water and then projectile vomiting every so often as a pre-cursor to hairball delivery. It's possible that Runswith has more hair that needs to be evacuated but it's really important that a cat not go without eating for more than 48 hours or you risk liver problems that can be life threatening and very expensive to treat. Is she licking her lips at all? That can be an indicator of nausea. I'd check her for dehydration by pulling up the scruff and watching for the skin to return to normal position. It should go back almost immediately and if it takes a second or two, she needs more fluids. I'd ply her with anything she normally likes to eat like the juice off tuna or salmon mixed in water if she is needs fluids and is refusing to drink on her own.
 
I'm sorry Runswith is not feeling well :bighug::bighug::bighug:. It sounds like something else is in her tummy and making her nauseas. Maybe another hairball? When was the last time she ate something and how much?

Wednesday was the last day she had anything substantial. That was the last time she threw up as well (overnight, into Thursday morning). Thursday she ate one morsel of her dry food and one small piece of Salmon treat (the treat is the size of a quarter, and she only had 1/10th of that). Friday I let her be and allowed her to fast because she was previously drinking water fine. Friday evening I noticed she was no longer drinking water. She won't eat anything presented to her anymore. I've tried her food, Fabby's wet food, Salmon treats, tuna treats, actual tuna, tuna juice. The last bit of anything she tried on her own was a sip of tuna juice yesterday evening. Now she won't even take the tuna juice. Her gums are light pink/whiteish and dry. Her scruff doesn't drop immediately and stays scruffed longer than I would like. This was why I began syringe feeding water.

Her giant hairball was Monday night Tuesday morning. I don't think there's anything else in there due to the food eating and purging on Wednesday. She had eaten fairly well all day (smaller than usual portions) and every bit of it came back up within those 24 hours. All mushy food no traces of hairball.
 
Wednesday was the last day she had anything substantial. That was the last time she threw up as well (overnight, into Thursday morning). Thursday she ate one morsel of her dry food and one small piece of Salmon treat (the treat is the size of a quarter, and she only had 1/10th of that). Friday I let her be and allowed her to fast because she was previously drinking water fine. Friday evening I noticed she was no longer drinking water. She won't eat anything presented to her anymore. I've tried her food, Fabby's wet food, Salmon treats, tuna treats, actual tuna, tuna juice. The last bit of anything she tried on her own was a sip of tuna juice yesterday evening. Now she won't even take the tuna juice. Her gums are light pink/whiteish and dry. Her scruff doesn't drop immediately and stays scruffed longer than I would like. This was why I began syringe feeding water.

Her giant hairball was Monday night Tuesday morning. I don't think there's anything else in there due to the food eating and purging on Wednesday. She had eaten fairly well all day (smaller than usual portions) and every bit of it came back up within those 24 hours. All mushy food no traces of hairball.
Sounds like she's dehydrated too. Have you tried pureeing some food with water and syringe feeding it? Maybe some all meat/broth baby food? She might not enjoy the force feeding but you have to do what's necessary. :(
 
You might want to try and syringe feed her something like Janet suggested. Maybe mix some of the pedialyte (just making sure it's the clear, no flavour one) with some wet food.
 
That is next on my list. I just got some pedialyte in her. So I'm waiting just a bit to make sure she keeps it down.
She also just jumped off the couch with me and headed towards the water dish, so I let her... but she didn't go for the water. She snuck behind the entertainment center and laid down in the corner hiding. I pushed her out of there and she ran behind the couch to hide. Little girl... I don't need this today at the height of today's heat...
I missed a couple questions above, so here goes:
Oh I'm sooo sorry you are having more sick kitty problems. You need these..... :bighug::bighug::bighug:

Is she licking her lips at all? That can be an indicator of nausea.
I do need those Linda, thank you. When she's presented with any food or water she sometimes licks her lips. Mostly she moves away, which does look like nausea to me. When I tried to get her to drink this morning she was licking her lips over the water, but not drinking water. I was hoping by syringing water she would see her tummy could handle it and want to at least begin drinking water again. However, that hasn't happened yet, and with the increased dehydration we've moved to pedialyte. So far she's at least kept all of that down. Hopefully it will remain so.

It's so so hard when they get old...

You don't have any poisonous house plants do you?
Lol. No plants at all. We've tried plants over the years, they either become litter boxes, or chew toys... one of my crystals boys was thought to have allergies way early on before even his crystals diagnosis. So we got rid of everything that was a recent change in the house. That included our last attempt at any house plants. Any cut flowers we receive go in a vase on our porch so I can at least admire them when I take the dog for a walk. Even the fake ones some of my clowder try to eat... I always tell people, I don't have plants, I have cats. Perhaps when we welcome more (too many years away from now, please oh please) I should start naming them the names of plants, lol.

Did I miss any others?
 
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Will she eat out of your (raised) hand? You could try raising the food and water bowls about 4-6 inches. If something is bothering her innards, she might appreciate not having to lower her head to eat and drink.

I had a cat that slept with her eyes open. It was freaky.

Found another one I missed.
No, she's never been a hand feeder. She will make me put it down before she eats it (even when she was healthy.) Right now if food and now water too, is even offered she gets up and turns away. I think even smelling it is making her nauseous.

In a half an hour I will try syringing a little wet food with water and see if she's able to hold that down. However, the last time she ate she held down food for many hours before it all came back up.
 
Her very favorite food in the whole world is KFC chicken. She can smell the 11 herbs and spices several rooms away and she'll come out (even when she was extra skittish before her thyroid diagnosis). If she holds down her cat food soup syringe perhaps we'll be having KFC tonight...

Thank you chatting with me, because it reminded me of this favorite of hers!
 
Found another one I missed.
No, she's never been a hand feeder. She will make me put it down before she eats it (even when she was healthy.) Right now if food and now water too, is even offered she gets up and turns away. I think even smelling it is making her nauseous.

In a half an hour I will try syringing a little wet food with water and see if she's able to hold that down. However, the last time she ate she held down food for many hours before it all came back up.
even if it comes back hours later, some of it will have been digested. Sounds like she's nautious... may need cerenia and fluids. Might be pancreatitis. You really want to avoid fatty liver though, so start getting that food in her any way you can.
 
Her very favorite food in the whole world is KFC chicken. She can smell the 11 herbs and spices several rooms away and she'll come out (even when she was extra skittish before her thyroid diagnosis). If she holds down her cat food soup syringe perhaps we'll be having KFC tonight...

Thank you chatting with me, because it reminded me of this favorite of hers!
Many references on here about KFC enticing a kitty to eat.
 
Many references on here about KFC enticing a kitty to eat.
Back when we lived in Florida, we'd get Publix, they also have a good fried chicken. But that didn't bring all the kitties to the yard. There's something about KFC that just permeates their olfactory and sends them running towards it.
Maybe I'll go search for the KFC threads to entertain me and relieve a bit of my worry at least for a minute.
 
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Back when we lived in Florida, they also have a good fried chicken. But that didn't bring all the kitties to the yard. There's something about KFC that just permeates their olfactory and sends them running towards it.
Maybe I'll go search for the KFC threads to entertain me and relieve a bit of my worry at least for a minute.
It brings people running too! :smuggrin:;)
 
Sending prayers for your girl Runswith, and (((hugs))) for you. Keep trying to get some food in her! Please keep us updated, we'll worry about her.:bighug::bighug::bighug:
 
So, I haven't syringe fed a cat before. I totally thought I'd just suck up my cat food soup and feed her. Lol that is not really the way it works. So it did suck up brown colored pedialyte with some tiny solid particles floating in there. Not really what I'd call food. But I gave it to her anyway. She was able to keep it down. So we're going for another attempt. We'll keep trying this a syringe of food flavored pedialyte and a syringe of straight pedialyte every 30 minutes and in a couple of hours we'll have KFC for dinner and see if that will entice her to take a bite on her own.

Thank you all for caring, for the hugs, and the chatting!
 
So, I haven't syringe fed a cat before. I totally thought I'd just suck up my cat food soup and feed her. Lol that is not really the way it works. So it did suck up brown colored pedialyte with some tiny solid particles floating in there. Not really what I'd call food. But I gave it to her anyway. She was able to keep it down. So we're going for another attempt. We'll keep trying this a syringe of food flavored pedialyte and a syringe of straight pedialyte every 30 minutes and in a couple of hours we'll have KFC for dinner and see if that will entice her to take a bite on her own.

Thank you all for caring, for the hugs, and the chatting!
I can't stress enough the importance of her getting some reasonable amount of food on board; she is at serious risk for hepatic lipidosis (fatty liver) which can become quickly fatal. Keep up the good work! :bighug::bighug::bighug:
 
Have you tried some meat broth? I use that for my CKD and Jones. A couple teaspoons to help the tummy and full of nutrients that maybe lacking. I make my own, but very handy.
 
Have you tried some meat broth? I use that for my CKD and Jones. A couple teaspoons to help the tummy and full of nutrients that maybe lacking. I make my own, but very handy.
No. But I imagine that's close to my Pedialyte cat food mixture. (She's current getting Fabby's chicken & liver paté from Friskies.) I was able to get more food in the last syringe. Mushing and stirring it more than my usual cat food soup helped.

Weird question... I'm having my own nausea battle at the moment (my doc is aware, and I have human instructions...) But the first thing humans do when trying to eat with nausea is go for the carbs (crackers). The food I feed Fabby is low carb (obviously). Should I switch to higher carb cat food to help with the nausea?
 
The muscle weakness looks to be getting worse. Her back legs have been a little shaky today, but she just moved 6 inches to sniff the water dish I have got her and he front and buckled 2x. She caught herself both times just before her face hit the water. She licked her lips, but didn't actually drink. She laid down beside the dish after the second attempt.
 
Under the circumstances, I'd feed Runswith anything her little heart desires. Higher carb food might help because the fat content would probably be lower and that can aggravate nausea.
 
The crackers are because they are easy to digest (simple carb), they are salted to help with hydration if vomiting and they are dry - so absorb excess acid. Which I think the freeze dried treats is the equivalant for cats. Agree with Linda - give her anything she will eat. Boiled chicken breast chunks also work in my house.
 
She wouldn't eat the KFC. Turned her had away every time it was offered. She's still taking the syringe food okay. Switching over to non-low carb wet.
We took her outside around sunset to see if maybe she'd eat grass. Nope. She was only interested in hiding. She did lay in the grass and looked more alive than she has in days as she looked around.
I'll take it. I haven't seen an interest to live in a long time, my hope's been dwindling. So this was nice.
 
If she's showing that much weakness and lack of interest I would take her to the vet. She may not have what your other cat had - she could have pancreatitis or something very treatable. Because of her age and her lack of much food lately, I'd take her sooner rather than later. Please keep us posted.

Sending more prayers and healing vines.
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If she's showing that much weakness and lack of interest I would take her to the vet. She may not have what your other cat had - she could have pancreatitis or something very treatable. Because of her age and her lack of much food lately, I'd take her sooner rather than later. Please keep us posted.

Sending more prayers and healing vines.
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I would love to but being the weekend, I've got to get her to Monday. I have never shown up at an ER vet for less than a grand, and I just can't. I just need her to hold on until Monday and we will be at their doers when they open.
 
Well no bueno.
2am est and she puked.
Her last syringe feeding she was more obstinate than she has been before. But I was just as stubborn. She's has a little over a tablespoon of food since 5 pm and a fair amount of water/pedialyte.
She only puked up 2 dime sized spots, so not even the last full syringe. So some has stayed down at least.
She's currently hiding under Fabby's cooling bed in the corner of the room. I don't hear anymore throwing up going on though. I'm going to give her a few minutes before I drag her back to bed.
Ugh... I was so hoping everything would stay down and that she'd have her appetite back by morning... :(
 
Well no bueno.
2am est and she puked.
Her last syringe feeding she was more obstinate than she has been before. But I was just as stubborn. She's has a little over a tablespoon of food since 5 pm and a fair amount of water/pedialyte.
She only puked up 2 dime sized spots, so not even the last full syringe. So some has stayed down at least.
She's currently hiding under Fabby's cooling bed in the corner of the room. I don't hear anymore throwing up going on though. I'm going to give her a few minutes before I drag her back to bed.
Ugh... I was so hoping everything would stay down and that she'd have her appetite back by morning... :(
Is she going to the bathroom? Peeing and pooping? Could she be constipated on top of it all?
 
Is she going to the bathroom? Peeing and pooping? Could she be constipated on top of it all?
She was going normally until she stopped with the water today. This afternoon she went to the litter box but didn't let anything out. I figured it was likely due to dehydration. Poor thing's a mess.
 
I wonder if those dime size spit ups were because of an acid stomach. I wonder if an antacid famitodine would help at all. I've never used it so can't help with dose off hand but I know others here have used it. @Squalliesmom any thoughts about trying a bit of famitodine? If so do you know the dose? I've never used it myself.
 
I just tried it last week for Maury. Was told to get 10mg normal strength tablets (guessing they make an extra strength one) and to give 1/4 tablet, so 2.5mg. If Runswith does not do well with pills, cut that 1/4 tablet piece even smaller. Not sure if you can crush it :bookworm:. It's big even for a 1/4 tablet, Maury did not enjoy it so I have not given it to him again. Should he really need it in the future, I'll be dicing that 1/4 tablet into fours!
 
This morning she looks a little more hydrated than she did all of yesterday. She's still refusing all food. I gave her a 3ml syringe of pedialyte at 6am, and I'll give another in a few moments. If she holds these down we might try a syringe of the food pedialyte mix. (It's still Fabby's food bc the civvie wet food I had didn't look good when I opened it. If we can get out of the house today we'll get her something higher carb.)
Just a few moments ago I got up to Fabby grooming Runswith. It was precious.
Hang in there Runswith, one more day...
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That's great! I hope she continues to improve. I love the picture, so sweet, and I love her name, too!
She may have, or may develop, a bad association with that particular food so I'd suggest getting several different styles/flavors.

@MrWorfMen's Mom Linda, I have never used the famotidine myself but my understanding is the usual dose in cats is 0.22 mg per pound, every 12 to 24 hours, so yes, as Yong said, about 1/4 of a 10 mg pill. I read somewhere that it should be used "with caution" in cats with heart, liver, or kidney disease.
 
Famotidine is Pepcid, I think, and when I gave it to Radar a few times, it was very obvious that it tastes perfectly awful....especially when crushed. The only way to get it into Radar was to put tiny pieces in a small gel capsule for delivery to the tummy. I hope your kitty continues to improve.
 
Thanks!
I'm going to hold off on the Pepcid until we see the vet tomorrow (provided they will see us) as I'm now on an hourly countdown. I've only got to get her through 15 hours... when I just checked on her (I talk to my cats) I said "How you doin', little girl?" And she picked her head up an meowed at me, twice. So we're looking so much better than the last couple of days. I think we can do this. At least the scaredy tears have stopped and been replaced with hope.

Thank you all!
 
Crappy setback... my vet just posted they will be closed on Monday. :(
That means we have to keep maintaining through until Wednesday. I feel right back at the beginning of this post...
 
I'm sorry your regular vet is closed. Are there more vets around that you can see if they are open?
I would keep getting small amounts of food into her, like every 2 hours. Best Of Luck to Runswith and :bighug: to you.
I'm glad she is drinking water and more hydrated today.
 
I'm sorry your regular vet is closed. Are there more vets around that you can see if they are open?
I would keep getting small amounts of food into her, like every 2 hours. Best Of Luck to Runswith and :bighug: to you.
I'm glad she is drinking water and more hydrated today.
Will do on the food!
I can now see visibly her weight loss from the last week. She's a tiny girl to begin with.
We are VERY rural. My experience with the vets around here is unless you are an established customer they will not see you same day. We have 3 vets total we've been to... Our preferred is closed. 2nd choice has no notice either way, so maybe? The 3rd choice I'm not sure I'd even be worth it, he charges er vet prices.
So we will be at the doors of vet 2 tomorrow when they open. It's going to cost an arm and a leg, but I don't feel like we can make it to Wednesday.
Her breathing appears to be increased.
I'm seeing similarities of when my dog passed away 10 months ago. I'm not ready.
 
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