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Candilee

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Im so not comfortable giving insulin without testing her level 1st, vet said she didnt want me to and come back there in a week to see her level and check on her, I do have testing machine and think she would be ok with me learning to do her ear all new to me Ive helped my mother and my s.o but this has me scared and wonder if I will hurt her if I dont test 1st ... so scared
 
You won’t hurt her by testing, you can hurt her badly if you give insulin she doesn’t need. What gauge are your lancets? I’ve been using 26 gauge and Friitz’s sweet spot on the outer edge of the ear bleeds readily, so I am going to try a smaller 28 gauge lancet. I can see the vein easily and poke outside of it, on the very edge of the ear. If blood doesn’t come easily, you may have to sort of milk it up from the bottom of the ear. It doesn’t take much. Then make sure the test strip is all the way in the meter and let it sip up the blood drop. I use a cotton ball or cotton pad to protect my finger and once I know the meter took the blood, I fold the cotton over his ear and apply pressure for a few seconds. Then I wipe his ear with a colloidal silver solution and immediately write the BG number down in his blood sugar log book. If you don’t have one, just jot down the number. I’m a newbie too, but each time I test him, I get more comfortable and more confident. So will you, especially since you’ve helped your mom. Your gut instinct was absolutely right. Shooting insulin without testing first is like flying blind. That number will guide you when nothing else will. I don’t know why all of these vets are so against home testing, but most are, and it is disgraceful. No human would shoot insulin with knowing their number and no animal should be shot with insulin if you don’t have a pre-shot BG number. I had a much-loved kitty go into severe hypoglycemia 9 years ago following vet’s instructions. She did not live through it. Never again! You trust your instincts and this board and her numbers and you will do fine. Better to not shoot than to shoot with a low number, a cat that won’t eat, etc. What insulin is she on? How many units?
 
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Semglee pen, told to give her 2 units at vet ..I did test her she is now at 245 at 5:30pm hasnt eaten since 7am , Vet at 11 am she was 485, so I will only give 1 unit after dinner and testing her again Omg she was amazing never moved didnt even care Was so easy got it on 1st try too! I was so upset Vet told me not to test her she said my cat will hate me so painful and wasnt needed just give her 2 units 2x aday so all the way home and even now Im still kinda pissed at Vet ohh she will hear me next week on Everything.. Thank you so much Judy&Fritz
 
Semglee pen, told to give her 2 units at vet ..I did test her she is now at 245 at 5:30pm hasnt eaten since 7am , Vet at 11 am she was 485, so I will only give 1 unit after dinner and testing her again Omg she was amazing never moved didnt even care Was so easy got it on 1st try too! I was so upset Vet told me not to test her she said my cat will hate me so painful and wasnt needed just give her 2 units 2x aday so all the way home and even now Im still kinda pissed at Vet ohh she will hear me next week on Everything.. Thank you so much Judy&Fritz

I hear you, sweetie. It infuriates me that they actively discourage home testing. I am now on my third vet in two weeks. My beloved vet of many years left the area, so I am vet shopping with a newly diagnosed diabetic boy. Not one of them suggested home testing, but the two women vets at least were open to it and didn’t try to talk me out of it. I’m not familiar with your insulin, and I would suggest going to the stickies on the main page to find your particular insulin and read up on it and post on that part of the forum as well. They can tell you a low BG number that means skip the injection. If you have an urgent question, always post where you posted this. If it is super urgent, post in all caps. See how good your little girl was? Testing on the outer ear doesn’t hurt them. I cannot believe your vet told you she will hate you, what an awful and absurd statement, not to mention dangerous. Wow!
 
Im so not comfortable giving insulin without testing her level 1st, vet said she didnt want me to and come back there in a week to see her level and check on her, I do have testing machine and think she would be ok with me learning to do her ear all new to me Ive helped my mother and my s.o but this has me scared and wonder if I will hurt her if I dont test 1st ... so scared
Doesn't hurt most cats unless they are skiddish. Thankfully my diabetic was chill. I have a video in my signature showing how I tested my cat CC at home.
 
Semglee pen, told to give her 2 units at vet ..I did test her she is now at 245 at 5:30pm hasnt eaten since 7am , Vet at 11 am she was 485, so I will only give 1 unit after dinner and testing her again Omg she was amazing never moved didnt even care Was so easy got it on 1st try too! I was so upset Vet told me not to test her she said my cat will hate me so painful and wasnt needed just give her 2 units 2x aday so all the way home and even now Im still kinda pissed at Vet ohh she will hear me next week on Everything.. Thank you so much Judy&Fritz

Magic and I are new here also…

I’m in pretty much the same boat as you - wanting to do what the vet says and not step on their toes, at least not yet.

With the encouragement of folks here, I ordered my own AlphaTrak2 and am waiting for it to arrive. In the interim, I purchased a low cost human meter and some supplies at Walmart to at least get him accustomed to the idea.

So far, he’s been an absolutely perfect patient and couldn’t care less what I do to him! He’d rather play with the cotton ball than pay attention to me. I’m not thrilled with the numbers I’m seeing and know that a dosage increase is in his future when we see the vet on Thursday. After sleeping on it, I’m convinced testing myself is the right decision. And, if the vet has an issue with it - unless he plans on doing it for free - he better stay the @#$& out of my way! I’m the parent
 
Both of you stand firm on the need to test, please. My first diabetic cat, caused by prednisone shots for allergies, I was told just give the prescribed insulin every 12 hours once her head was in the food bowl. I trusted my vet, did as he said. Maggie had her head in the food bowl, eating, and I gave her insulin to her. Wasn’t testing. She refused to eat anything else, I had just run for the honey when she went into seizures and coma. It was so swift, sudden and utterly shocking. I rubbed honey into her gums and inside cheek as she was seizing the entire 15 minute drive as my husband raced us to the emergency clinic. She didn’t make it. I never want anyone to go through such a horrifying experience. I am scarred for life. Every single night with Fritz, panic sets in, because Maggie died at night, but this time I know I am in control because I test him and I have his numbers. I know that intellectually, but try telling it to my racing heart and shaking hands. @Candilee this is why I was so adamant about testing in my first post. @Denver I am a newbie right along with the two of you. The members of this board have already given me invaluable advice on those nights I was terrified. Fritz is on Prozinc and I elected to start low go slow, SLGS on this forum. He gets half a unit twice a day. I took a over a week before starting insulin, transitioning him to a low carb wet diet (Fancy Feast pate). He gets Dr. Elsey’s CleanProtein kibble as treats, sometimes as a meal topper, sometimes as a small meal, as well as Purebite freeze-dried chicken bites and Orijen’s Six Fish freeze dried treats. If you don’t test, you are flying blind. Can you imagine a doctor telling a human diabetic patient not to test?
 
Both of you stand firm on the need to test, please. My first diabetic cat, caused by prednisone shots for allergies, I was told just give the prescribed insulin every 12 hours once her head was in the food bowl. I trusted my vet, did as he said. Maggie had her head in the food bowl, eating, and I gave her insulin to her. Wasn’t testing. She refused to eat anything else, I had just run for the honey when she went into seizures and coma. It was so swift, sudden and utterly shocking. I rubbed honey into her gums and inside cheek as she was seizing the entire 15 minute drive as my husband raced us to the emergency clinic. She didn’t make it. I never want anyone to go through such a horrifying experience. I am scarred for life. Every single night with Fritz, panic sets in, because Maggie died at night, but this time I know I am in control because I test him and I have his numbers. I know that intellectually, but try telling it to my racing heart and shaking hands. @Candilee this is why I was so adamant about testing in my first post. @Denver I am a newbie right along with the two of you. The members of this board have already given me invaluable advice on those nights I was terrified. Fritz is on Prozinc and I elected to start low go slow, SLGS on this forum. He gets half a unit twice a day. I took a over a week before starting insulin, transitioning him to a low carb wet diet (Fancy Feast pate). He gets Dr. Elsey’s CleanProtein kibble as treats, sometimes as a meal topper, sometimes as a small meal, as well as Purebite freeze-dried chicken bites and Orijen’s Six Fish freeze dried treats. If you don’t test, you are flying blind. Can you imagine a doctor telling a human diabetic patient not to test?
Omg good that's terrifying and heartbreaking. I'm so sad you had to go through that. Your must have been terrified when a second cat was diagnosed. I'm glad you are able to test now and help keep him safe.
 
Omg good that's terrifying and heartbreaking. I'm so sad you had to go through that. Your must have been terrified when a second cat was diagnosed. I'm glad you are able to test now and help keep him safe.
@JanetNJ it still saddens me too. And yes, terrified describes it. I am fine during the day, testing, feeding, shooting, but when it’s night time I get shaky. My head says “You’ve got this, you know his number” but my heart races. On Tuesday, he will have been on .5 units of Prozinc twice a day. His latest vet told me to keep him at .5 until she does a curve on 8/17. As long as he is in the 200’s I am okay with that. But wouldn’t he normally go up to .75 the second week doing SLGS? Sorry to hijack, but one bit of advice would so help me face the night ahead. I am a strong person, with strong faith and a ton of self-confidence. This makes me feel like a scared child. It is what it is. Thank you so much for your kind words
 
@JanetNJ it still saddens me too. And yes, terrified describes it. I am fine during the day, testing, feeding, shooting, but when it’s night time I get shaky. My head says “You’ve got this, you know his number” but my heart races. On Tuesday, he will have been on .5 units of Prozinc twice a day. His latest vet told me to keep him at .5 until she does a curve on 8/17. As long as he is in the 200’s I am okay with that. But wouldn’t he normally go up to .75 the second week doing SLGS? Sorry to hijack, but one bit of advice would so help me face the night ahead. I am a strong person, with strong faith and a ton of self-confidence. This makes me feel like a scared child. It is what it is. Thank you so much for your kind words
I wouldn't raise until you can get more mid cycle numbers. The dose changes are based on how low they go mid cycle rather than by the preshot. Most likely though he does need 0.75.
 
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