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I just read you tested the 30 thirty minutes ago.
PLEASE test now. See where she is... she might need more food or honey.
How is her behavior?
 
@srk3cats You should post a "911" thread on the main health forum too. You will get more eyes on it and more people to help out.
Did you get another test yet?
 
I agree with what Steph has said. This is a seriously low number and if you can't get her BG moving up she'll need vet attention. Please post on the main health forum with a 911 icon on your thread title. You need to catch the attention of people who are in another time zone who can help.
 
Was this BG test result of 30 at +12 or later than +12? What is Chloe's demeanour - acting normal or acting strange?
 
@srk3cats it's been 25 minutes PLEASE update us... what was her test and did you give any more food or honey and if so how long before or after the test?
 
Ok give her a little more food and maybe a drop of honey and test again in 20 minutes. 30 is a dangerous low. She could start rising then go back down- depends on how much insulin is left in her system.
Did she eat any food?
Please come back in 20 and update us.
 
srk3cats said:
I tested her again and it's 45. She seems a bit lethargic, but otherwise fine.
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That might only be a short lasting increase from the honey. You're not out of the woods yet. Do you have any gravy style high carb food? If so, give her a teaspoon of gravy and test again in 20 minutes.

I see that Steph has given similar advice.
 
Kris will be heading to bed soon. I should be in bed but I will stick around and help you through this. When you post in the main health forum more people from other time zones will see it and be able to stay longer if those of us on the East coast can't stay on.
 
Kris & Teasel said:
That might only be a short lasting increase from the honey. You're not out of the woods yet. Do you have any gravy style high carb food? If so, give her a teaspoon of gravy and test again in 20 minutes.

I see that Steph has given similar advice.
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Pro Plan True Nature, don't know if it's high carb, but she's going at it with vigor.
 
People can help by following what's happening to Chloe's BG numbers and suggesting what to feed, how much to feed, when to test and when you've reached BG safety. Until you've gone through a few hypos it can be hard to maintain presence of mind. Having others "with" you is reassuring.
 
Your goal is to get her ABOVE 50 and stay there for 3 tests after you're done giving her spoons of food. Don't overload her with food too quick. If she gets full and won't eat anymore then drops again you could have a problem raising it again.
 
Once she is staying above 50 for 3 consecutive tests without food you can feed her what's left of her meal or what would be her normal meal. She might not eat it all right away.
Very important to NOT give her a shot tonight.
 
@srk3cats did you get another test yet? Kris has great advice. I have a hypo kit even though I never really needed it til I switched.
 
Me too. Running on 3-4 hours of sleep and need to be up in 6 hours.
Hoping to see an update soon!
 
StephG said:
Once she is staying above 50 for 3 consecutive tests without food you can feed her what's left of her meal or what would be her normal meal. She might not eat it all right away.
Very important to NOT give her a shot tonight.
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Now what? back down to 31.
 
srk3cats said:
Now what? back down to 31.
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Give her another spoon of food with a drop of honey in it.
It's very important to test again in 20 to 30 minutes max.
You'll know if she's still dropping before getting too much lower before giving more food or honey.
 
31 is a dangerous low. She still has active insulin in her system or she wouldn't be going back down after eating. You need to keep feeding her and testing after 20-30 minutes. I like to test in 25 minute increments but chuck has never been this low. You could rub some honey on her gums too. You need to get her up into safer numbers. She could start having hypo symptoms. Seizures, coma-- the deadly ones.
 
I must go now. If she is not above 50 keep giving food with some honey in it.
If she's over 50 wait 20 minutes and test again.
You have others here to help I think. If you don't get an answer on your main Health thread you can try here too. Keep testing until she's going up for 3 tests without food.
 
StephG said:
I must go now. If she is not above 50 keep giving food with some honey in it.
If she's over 50 wait 20 minutes and test again.
You have others here to help I think. If you don't get an answer on your main Health thread you can try here too. Keep testing until she's going up for 3 tests without food.
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Thank you, I hope you have a good sleep.
 
@srk3cats I am truly puzzled as to why her bg is so low if she has had no insulin within 12+ hours. I think you should take her to the ER vet, for safety's sake. She has been too low too long and is not coming up appreciably. She could be fine, but it could also turn into a deadly situation in the blink of an eye.

ETA: Just looking back over the earlier posts - it's been over three hours since she first tested below 50, time to go to the ER.
 
Squalliesmom said:
I am truly puzzled as to why her bg is so low if she has had no insulin within 12+ hours. I think you should take her to the ER vet, for safety's sake. She has been too low too long and is not coming up appreciably. She could be fine, but it could also turn into a deadly situation in the blink of an eye.
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Chloe has dropped dangerously low before. I agree that this is time to call in the vet and have her seen. I think @srk3cats looked up vet info in case of an emergency the last time this happened with Chloe.
 
Squalliesmom said:
@srk3cats I am truly puzzled as to why her bg is so low if she has had no insulin within 12+ hours. I think you should take her to the ER vet, for safety's sake. She has been too low too long and is not coming up appreciably. She could be fine, but it could also turn into a deadly situation in the blink of an eye.

ETA: Just looking back over the earlier posts - it's been over three hours since she first tested below 50, time to go to the ER.
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What will they do at the ER that I can't do here?
 
They can put her on a glucose drip, if she needs one. Theoretically, with no insulin on board, these numbers, while low, wouldn't be too worrisome; however, I have never seen any cat go from needing insulin regularly to just dropping into such low numbers so suddenly. I am concerned that there is something else going on here that we are not seeing. And I am very uncomfortable that you can't get her numbers up and keep them up over 50.
 
Squalliesmom said:
They can put her on a glucose drip, if she needs one. Theoretically, with no insulin on board, these numbers, while low, wouldn't be too worrisome; however, I have never seen any cat go from needing insulin regularly to just dropping into such low numbers so suddenly. I am concerned that there is something else going on here that we are not seeing. And I am very uncomfortable that you can't get her numbers up and keep them up over 50.
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I'm speaking to an animal hospital right now and he said they don't recomend human glucometers.
 
I don't really see that that has a lot of bearing on the situation at hand. Yes, they will read lower than pet meters, but I think even on a pet meter Chloe would be dangerously low!

ETA: There is only an 18 point difference between the "take action now!" numbers on the two meters - 50 on a human meter vs 68 on a pet meter.
 
srk3cats said:
I'm speaking to an animal hospital right now and he said they don't recomend human glucometers.
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Test it on yourself. See if it gives you a normal number.
Try giving more honey.
Do they want you to bring her in?
(I can't sleep yet so I decided to check in)
 
Does it really matter what meter they recommend at this point? On a pet meter Chloe would be even more dangerously low. The 'take action now' number on a pet meter is at 68...as compared to the 50 on a human meter. It seems that, for whatever reason, Chloe is not able to bring her number back up even now when the insulin should be wearing off. That, to me, indicates that she needs to be seen urgently by an ER vet so they can raise her number back into the safe zone.
 
Squalliesmom said:
I don't really see that that has a lot of bearing on the situation at hand. Yes, they will read lower than pet meters, but I think even on a pet meter Chloe would be dangerously low!

ETA: There is only an 18 point difference between the "take action now!" numbers on the two meters - 50 on a human meter vs 68 on a pet meter.
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She doesn't want to go and I'm exhausted. Maybe it's just her time.
 
StephG said:
That's an awful way to die!!!!!
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It really is. Death from hypo is not a peaceful way to go. I know you're tired, but please do the right thing by Chloe, even if that does finish up being pts. Although there is honestly no reason why any cat should die from a hypo episode...not when you know the numbers and can have them brought back up at the ER if you can't get them back up on your own.
 
Just want to add one thing.....she's going to fill up on food and not want to eat

I would stop mixing so much food in (unless it's just the "gravy" from a "Gravy Lovers" type food) and increase the syrup/honey/karo until she's well above 50....a drop or two isn't cutting it tonight

At this point, it doesn't matter if we send her too high....she needs to get UP
 
Please take her to the vet, even if it is only to have her humanely pts. Letting her die from hypoglycemia would be incredibly cruel.
 
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