Chloe at 22

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Also, when you report the new number, it would be best to start a fresh thread-- this one is getting long, and a lot of it is old info. :)
 
That 40 is scary. Orijen treats are low carb. Do you have any high carb gravy type canned foood on hand? If so give a teaspoon or two of just the gravy.
 
When you have a minute to look at your SS:
  • the left hand AMPS column is where you enter the BG that you got when you tested in the morning before feeding and giving insulin.
  • you've entered 1:00 in the "U" column just now. Does that mean 1 unit of insulin? Did you test BG before giving that dose? If so you should enter the BG number in the "PMPS" column.
 
Kris & Teasel said:
When you have a minute to look at your SS:
  • the left hand AMPS column is where you enter the BG that you got when you tested in the morning before feeding and giving insulin.
  • you've entered 1:00 in the "U" column just now. Does that mean 1 unit of insulin? Did you test BG before giving that dose? If so you should enter the BG number in the "PMPS" column.
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No, I tried testing her this morning but didn't get a reading. I gave her a low dose of insulin. An hour ago she was at 40, but now she's at 60. Going the right direction at least. Should I give her some honey?
 
srk3cats said:
No, I tried testing her this morning but didn't get a reading. I gave her a low dose of insulin. An hour ago she was at 40, but now she's at 60. Going the right direction at least. Should I give her some honey?
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No need for honey unless you're using a pet meter because they read higher. You can give a small snack of regular food.
 
srk3cats said:
Excellent directions! I wonder if you're a teacher or a writer. I especially like the tip about using the Sharpie.
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Thank you for the compliment on the video and the instructions, I'm glad that it helped you. I actually am a writer :)
That sharpie trick really works, it just popped into my head one day and I decided to give it a try. I was so tired of not being able to actually see where the lancet was lining up because of the reflection of the plastic on the cover but once you put that black ring down, you can see it through the reflection and it makes a world of difference. Also putting a bright light like an LED desk lamp nearby will help and the one that I can't live without is a set of reading glasses. I got a pair that is about +1.50 in strength to poke his ear, I leave them laying over with all of his testing stuff and then I have another pair that is +2.0 for drawing up his insulin with and they stay in a kitchen drawer with his syringes. If any of these tips help then use them.
 
I got it on the 2nd try this morning and she didn't even yelp! I think it was because I used the warm rice sock. I haven't yet drawn the black circle on the pen. I have to go back and read the instructions again. I poked her with the lancet only.
 
srk3cats said:
I got it on the 2nd try this morning and she didn't even yelp! I think it was because I used the warm rice sock. I haven't yet drawn the black circle on the pen. I have to go back and read the instructions again. I poked her with the lancet only.
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Good job, I'm glad that the rice sock worked. Seriously I was so nervous to even make that video and then I realized that I had a bad angle so I really want to remake it pretty soon so that it's not starring Peanut and my boob lol. But I'm happy to hear that it helped someone in the meantime.
As far as the clicking sound bothering you and Chloe, just start doing it all the time. You know how some people will click a pen top over and over and over again? Well, try doing that, just draw it back and push the button, over and over again. At first don't worry about how close Chloe is to you but then through the day or couple of days start to do it closer and closer to her and eventually you will be able to do it right next to her and she won't even notice. Hopefully.
 
srk3cats said:
I got it on the 2nd try this morning and she didn't even yelp! I think it was because I used the warm rice sock. I haven't yet drawn the black circle on the pen. I have to go back and read the instructions again. I poked her with the lancet only.
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You're running two threads on the ProZinc forum where we've been posting important dosing info. Have you had a chance to look at those yet? What dose did you give Chloe this AM? We're trying hard to help and would like to know.
 
This morning after her reading of 396, I fed her 3 oz of FF and then gave her .8 units (2 units on the u100). I will try to merge the threads when I get home tonight. I'm supposed to be working now.
 
srk3cats said:
This morning after her reading of 396, I fed her 3 oz of FF and then gave her .8 units (2 units on the u100). I will try to merge the threads when I get home tonight. I'm supposed to be working now.
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Thank heavens you posted this! We've been frantic trying to sort it out! A dose of 0.8 u is still higher than what we recommended but it *might* be OK. I'll be a repetitive nag and say that it isn't 2 units on the U100, only at the 2 level in that syringe. It's really important to keep any discussion of units to ProZinc itself or U40 syringes if you had them.
 
Kris & Teasel said:
Thank heavens you posted this! We've been frantic trying to sort it out! A dose of 0.8 u is still higher than what we recommended but it *might* be OK. I'll be a repetitive nag and say that it isn't 2 units on the U100, only at the 2 level in that syringe. It's really important to keep any discussion of units to ProZinc itself or U40 syringes if you had them.
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If you don't go by the numbers on the syringe, then how do you measure the dose? And what's the point of having numbers on the syringes?:nailbiting::nailbiting::nailbiting::confused::confused::banghead:

I should be receiving my u-40 syringes on Wednesday and then I'll stash the u-100s far, far, away. Hopefully, that should simplify things. I've looked at another SS and there were many blacks and reds, so I don't think Chloe is doing so badly.
 
srk3cats said:
If you don't go by the numbers on the syringe, then how do you measure the dose? And what's the point of having numbers on the syringes?:nailbiting::nailbiting::nailbiting::confused::confused::banghead:
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Well, you are going by the numbers on the U100 syringe, just not calling them units. That 0.8 unit dose you gave this AM filled the U100 syringe barrel to the 2.0 mark but the liquid itself only contained 0.8 units of ProZinc.
 
srk3cats said:
and that's a lot?
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No, it's not a lot. Some kitties reach a point where their dose has to be reduced to a very low level. It's a good sign that they might be heading toward remission. We've been trying to get a clear picture of Chloe's progress so you could be given good guidance through a phase like this. I apologize again for upsetting you.
 
Kris & Teasel said:
No, it's not a lot. Some kitties reach a point where their dose has to be reduced to a very low level. It's a good sign that they might be heading toward remission. We've been trying to get a clear picture of Chloe's progress so you could be given good guidance through a phase like this. I apologize again for upsetting you.
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no worries, I appreciate all your help
 
Nan & Amber said:
Although it is (hopefully) academic now, I'm afraid I'm going to disagree with some of this advice. I would always, always take a seizing cat to the vet, immediately. Hypos can progress extremely rapidly, and a seizing cat is already at the brink of coma and death. It isn't worth the risk to try to handle that situation at home. I also do not agree with refusing IV glucose while at the vet. In a serious hypo event, time is of the essence, you can worry about fine-tuning the recovery later, the important thing is to keep the cat safe and alive.
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Well, if you live in an area with 24 hr. emergency vet care you are very lucky. If you do not, you better know what to do to save your cat in a hypo situation until the vet opens. You may disagree with some of the advice I posted, don't know what makes you an expert, but at least I took the time to give meaningful advice instead of just posting "test" or "are you sure the number is 22" or " I can't stick around much longer" or "I'm going to have to bail soon" like you did.
 
Bernie said:
Well, if you live in an area with 24 hr. emergency vet care you are very lucky. If you do not, you better know what to do to save your cat in a hypo situation until the vet opens. You may disagree with some of the advice I posted, don't know what makes you an expert, but at least I took the time to give meaningful advice instead of just posting "test" or "are you sure the number is 22" or " I can't stick around much longer" or "I'm going to have to bail soon" like you did.
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I'm not sure who you're talking to Bernie, but it sounds like you got up on the wrong side of the bed today.
 
Chris & China said:
There's nothing special about the "Glycobalance" foods (except the price)

If Chloe and Chico will eat Fancy Feast Classics, Friskies pates or 9-Lives ground, there's no reason you can't feed both of them the same food.

The idea of "twice a day" feeding went out with the dinosaurs too....the newer protocols say it's better to feed multiple small means instead of 2 big ones....and it usually makes the cat a lot happier!!

Both my civvies were overweight when China was diagnosed (they were free fed dry)....when I switched everybody over to low carb canned, they actually lost the extra weight. They did have to learn to eat at more "scheduled" times (there's not food left down all day) but they adjusted. Now, if they don't finish theirs by the time China's done with hers (I feed her in a different place since I'm testing/shooting), it gets picked up....they learn to eat it when it's there!!
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The problem is that Chico will not eat his dry food now, and I have a lot of it. I want to use up the dry food because I suspect it goes stale after awhile.
 
srk3cats said:
The problem is that Chico will not eat his dry food now, and I have a lot of it. I want to use up the dry food because I suspect it goes stale after awhile.
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This is actually a good thing. Some cats are crunchie addicts and have a hard time switching to wet food. I understand not wanting to waste money by not using up the dry but it's best to get them off the dry. You'll continue to see improvements in his BG levels once you do.
As for the prozinc measurements. I use u100 syringes but only post the units as u40. So today I gave chuck 18.75 units on the u100 syringe which equals 7.5 units of Prozinc on a u40 syringe so I post that I gave 7.5 units. If you're unsure if you have the right amount you can say is 7.5 units equal to 18.75 units with u100 syringe? Or something similar with your dose measurements before giving the shot.
As for the response from Bernie... Some people can have a less than polite response to others disagreeing with them. We are all here to help one another and we are all constantly learning!
 
Yong said:
He's being discourteous to Nan&Amber for stating her opinion on the advice he gave you because he probably didn't read the other 28 posts.
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You are correct, my comments were directed to Nan & Amber and they were not discourteous, just to the point.
 
StephG said:
This is actually a good thing. Some cats are crunchie addicts and have a hard time switching to wet food. I understand not wanting to waste money by not using up the dry but it's best to get them off the dry. You'll continue to see improvements in his BG levels once you do.
As for the prozinc measurements. I use u100 syringes but only post the units as u40. So today I gave chuck 18.75 units on the u100 syringe which equals 7.5 units of Prozinc on a u40 syringe so I post that I gave 7.5 units. If you're unsure if you have the right amount you can say is 7.5 units equal to 18.75 units with u100 syringe? Or something similar with your dose measurements before giving the shot.
As for the response from Bernie... Some people can have a less than polite response to others disagreeing with them. We are all here to help one another and we are all constantly learning!
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My response to Nan & Amber was to the point but polite.
 
srk3cats said:
286! at 7:10 pm. going down! Boy, was Chloe hungry! I will wait a few more minutes and then give her the dosage I gave this morning: 0.8 u. Does that seem right to you?
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Did you get any mid cycle readings from this mornings cycle? I would be tempted to give a little less because she's 100 points lower than she was this morning. You could do a "skinny" 0.8 by measuring the plunger just to the inside of the line you did this morning. If you are able to monitor closely and give her food if she drops too low you could do the same dose as this morning.
 
srk3cats said:
286! at 7:10 pm. going down! Boy, was Chloe hungry! I will wait a few more minutes and then give her the dosage I gave this morning: 0.8 u. Does that seem right to you?
Oh yeah, and I got the reading on my 1st try!
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Hurray for a quick, successful test! :) If you go with this 0.8 u dose, try to get another BG test at +3 or so to see how far she's dropped. If you want to play it safer, give only 0.6 u.
 
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