Chewy +10 184...

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Good Morning from Diabetic Alley!

I must always start with my Girl.....Kitty! She threw me a 141 at her midshot last night, so I waited two hours and retested and she was 277- I shot 3 units and went to sleep! This actually was good--as it allowed me to change her schedule to my convenience for a day or two. She now is 8am, 4pm and midnight! Not bad!

Now to Chewy!

His SS is updated....I can't open it at work...but, it is close to +64 since his last dose. He was 131 before feeding this morning and 145 (something like that!) 1.5 hours later. I have been studying his SS and here is what I think. I dosed .3 into 182 and only got about a 50 percent drop. And, I have seen No green numbers at all! So, if you bank on the precentages of drop that he has had, you would think that he can receive a small dose at 150. I really think he needs some help. I have even shot .8 into low 200s and only got a 50 percent drop. I realize that the big question or concern is...does Mr. P show up when the numbers drop....creating more insulin than my dose. All of this being considered, if he is around 150 at lunch-- I am going to give him a small dose. I can be home and monitor-- and will!

I have been "practicing" small doses. I have "waisted" some insulin, by pulling it up in the syringe and pushing it out, so I can see what constitues a drop etc..... This is new for me, but I like new stuff! (convinced yet?!)

Thoughts?
 
Re: Kitty and Chewy! Going to shoot today...I think!

I like it. It will give you a baseline and help with future dose decisions. And you will be there to monitor and add food into the mix as needed.

Funny. it's as though Kitty doesn't want him to have all the attention. :mrgreen:
 
Re: Kitty and Chewy! Going to shoot today...I think!

I think when you have a cat who is on the verge of self-regulating and you give insulin you may get more of a drop than you are expecting, I think that's why we start seeing really low numbers and freak out. If I had a cat that I could dose at 150, with those numbers, I would. He might just need one more push to get him there on his own, I think of the small doses of insulin as programming the pancreatic thermostat. He seems to be able to hold his BG pretty steady, it's just like the P doesn't know that it just needs to go a little lower.
 
Re: Kitty and Chewy! Going to shoot today...I think!

I heard this one time on the board & thought I would share it with you.
To practice micro dosing...take some food colored water & load a syringe. That way you dont waste the insulin.
Just a thought.
Way to go furries!!! Keep up those wonderful numbers!! dancing_cat
 
Re: Kitty and Chewy! Going to shoot today...I think!

Oh Kim - I just LOVE my morning dose of Kitty and Chewy and love that Sir Chewy is doing SO well. 'Course they KNOW when they're 'HOME' and can relax and enjoy it!! :-D :-D ;-)
 
Re: Kitty and Chewy! +67 169 shot!

Chewy

+67 169

After much consideration--I shot .2. I will be gone for about an hour and then back home to test Chewy througout the day. I might should be scared-- and I am anxious to see where this takes us, but I think it was needed. I have shot .3 into 182--so, I think we will be fine. Here's hoping!
 
Re: Kitty and Chewy +67 169 shot.2 +68.5 120

I shot the .2 on the 169 reading----1.25 hours later 120-- 50 point drop. I am feeding low carb just to try and support the drop. The 169 was the highest recorded reading in 67 hours.

Question...if the pancreas is working, wouldn't feeding food on the drop just create more insulin thus lowering the numbers possibly further?

Okay, I said I wasn't scared on nervous...I LIED! But, I didn't know I was scared until I saw the 30 percent drop in the first hour......

I am also thinking that the drop should be over in six hours max, so I only have 4.5 more hours of anxiety.....
 
Re: Kitty and Chewy +67 169 shot.2 +68.5 120

You still have 80 points to drop before you have to worry.

You are testing, you know what to do if he drops too low, we are here with you.

A few slow deep breaths.

Maybe he'll see his first green :-D to remind him where he wants his bg's to be.

Believe me, I remember those anxiety days far too well.

A few slow deep breaths.
 
Re: Kitty and Chewy +67 169 shot.2 +68.5 120

::deep breath:: :YMHUG:

Hi Kim, know you should be the one giving the advice to me!

But, your last question is what I've been getting at....if Mr. P is about to throw a party, and I think he is, feeding might not produce the rise or slowing you would normally expect. I know you're scared, and you have the right to be....but I think this is just what happens when Mr. P starts kicking in before OTJ. If you see numbers that would normally send you running for the Karo, just breath, watch your cat, offer low carb food ever 15-30 minutes....but don't assume a number in the 40-60 range is heading for ahypo....they really don't seem to be.
 
Re: Kitty and Chewy +67 169 shot.2 +1.25 120 +2 101

+2 101

Okay, I think I have had enough of this! I now have 60 points to go......and about 4 more hours...

Sue, where are you? Aren't you suppose to be holding my hand?

It does look like the drop has slowed...maybe the food...

Robin, I think he is going to see green! Normally I would have tested twice..but, I am not ready for Green yet....
 
Re: Kitty and Chewy +67 169 shot.2 +1.25 120 +2 101

I am in and out but would be glad to hold your hand. :-D you know the routine. Breathing for the bean, maybe a small snack of low carb for Chewy, testing every 30 minutes or so. Break out the higher carb gravy at 40.

Maybe keep telling yourself that this is what you want for Chewy and that it is worth a few hours of heavy breathing and anxiety for Kim?
 
Re: Kitty and Chewy +67 169 shot.2 +1.25 120 +2 101

It does look like the drop is slowing.

Oh good, Sue is always the voice of reason and says things much nicer than I can.
 
Re: Kitty & Chewy +67 169 shot.2 +1.25 120 +2 101 +2.5 91

Dear Kim,

Totally understand your feelings. My heart stopped when I caught Pudge at 46! Fed his regular food and all went OK. We didn't have a visit from his pancreas, but I'm so happy that Chewy is being visited by that both dreaded and sought illusive creature. Wish our feelings were as rational as our brains or may be not! What would life be like without the splendid and varied intensity of our feeling? Boring! Keeping my fingers and all kitty paws crossed over our hearts. Wishing you and yours well!
Sophie
 
Re: Kitty & Chewy +67 169 shot.2 +1.25 120 +2 101 +2.5 91

Hi Kim
I am at the doctor but I am watching too!
Looks great to me.
Carl
 
Re: Kitty & Chewy +67 169 shot.2 +1.25 120 +2 101 +2.5 91

Been checking back in. Assume you would be telling us if things were heading south. Gotta leave for a hour. Will check in when I get back. Sounds like you have a bunch of us checking in and keeping an eye on you two.

Breathe, sweetie, breathe.
 
Re: Kitty & Chewy 169 .2 +1.25 120 +2 101 +2.5 91 +3.5 82

I have been breathing!!!

I think this is BEAUTIFUL! :mrgreen:

+3.5 is 82--that is about the 50 percent drop that I was hoping for!

I will check again in an hour or so, but I do not think he is in any danger. It looks like he is surfing...I just hope this is enough to help him stay in lower numbers for awhile longer.

GO CHEWY!
 
Re: Chewy +2.5 91 +3.5 82 +5 111

The +5 is 111--Not exactly what I was hoping for!

This is still a Great reading and I know that BGs fluctuate. Hopefully, he will stay on the low side of the blues and his pancreas will kick in a little more. At least I now know that I can shoot a 170 with .2 if needed. In fact, it looks like a could shoot a lower BG-- maybe in the 150 range and still be okay.
(To anyone reading this that has not been following Chewy's story...DO NOT take these readings and dosing information and apply it to your cat. This is specific to Chewy.)
 
Re: Chewy +2.5 91 +3.5 82 +5 111

Go Chewy Go!!! Did you keep your mama on the edge of her seat??? Good boy! You got some great stuff there - you're allowed to show it off (some!) Just remember, if you see mama hyperventilating, just jump up and down on top of her and lick her in the face! flip_cat
 
Re: Chewy +2.5 91 +3.5 82 +5 111

It's ok, remember he hasn't seen a green for a long time and Mr. Liver might be a little panicked.

Good boy Chewy cat_pet_icon

I think we've all been on the edge of our seats today.
 
Re: Chewy +2.5 91 +3.5 82 +5 111 +6 122

Hold on Chewy...you are going the wrong way! :lol:

+6 122
 
Re: Chewy +2.5 91 +3.5 82 +5 111 +6 122

Kim
That 11point climb must be the "bounce"!

Carl
 
Re: Chewy +2.5 91 +3.5 82 +5 111 +6 122 +8 151

+8 151

Looks like a steady 10 to 15 point climb an hour since nadir.

Maybe his pancreas has quit helping! I am hoping the climb stops, but if it doesn't...I have plenty of insulin!
 
Re: Chewy +2.5 91 +3.5 82 +5 111 +6 122 +8 151

Wow, Chewy is really doing great! He likes it in Kittyville! :-D
 
Re: Chewy +2.5 91 +3.5 82 +5 111 +6 122 +8 151

Getting ready to test...almost hate too! I think it is going in the Wrong direction.
 
+10 184

Consistent 10 to 15 point increase since nadir.

I actually want to shoot now-- I think he will be over 200 at +12. I don't think this is a bounce...it is too small of an increase. What do you think?

Maybe his pancreas is like my coworkers and decided if I was going to help him out, that I might as well do all of it! :lol:
 
What schedule?! Kitty has already gone 10 hours on her am cycle and I am "scheduled" to dose her at 2 am...so he will either be dosed now at 10 pm or at midnight...

Maybe it is best to let him run and see where he goes. I don't think this is a bounce-- it is to small of an hourly increase and too steady.

Robin, assuming he is at 200 in 2 hours...what would you dose. I have shot .3 into 182 and 1 unit into 200. I want to be sure I am not over shooting, in the even his liver did panic. But, I think if it was liver panic the increase would have been a "bigger" and quicker increase. This seems pretty small and steady. I think it is a true BG. What do you think?
 
I do think it is some kind of bounce because it was so soon after he saw the greens. He was going back up at what +5? A green from a 169 won't bounce as high as a green from a 300. Make sense?

I would stay with a low dose, .2u just in case there is some bounce in there. He did great today. I might let him go up just a little more before I would shoot.

I don't know, it's your call. You've been right on so far.
 
kse said:
What schedule?! Kitty has already gone 10 hours on her am cycle and I am "scheduled" to dose her at 2 am...so he will either be dosed now at 10 pm or at midnight...
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Sure hope that day job isn't getting in the way of you cat care! We might all need to chip in and buy you a new alarm clock - I'm guessing yours is getting quite the workout these days! You might just as well set the oven timer! ;-)
 
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