charly - reduced dose

That is great! Her dose is going the right way. Was she eating normally last night? That was a massive drop even from PMPS to +4. When I saw that I would have started feeding her at that point to prevent her from going into Lime green - even if I had to use a little medium carb food.
 
Yes she was eating as normal last night. She ate at +4 anyway as she always does. I thought that would be enough. She surprised me at +6 I wasn't expecting it. Caused a bit of a panic in the early hours!!
 
Tell me … where it says 2.6/4.1 on the spreadsheet from the last lime green episode, how many minutes were between those two tests? I see she was dropping back down again in the next hour. You had little sleep that night. I hope you caught up a little on Sunday.

I hope today’s the day she will start coming back down into better numbers (and I would not mind a lack of lime greens for a while either!)
 
Suzanne & Darcy said:
Tell me … where it says 2.6/4.1 on the spreadsheet from the last lime green episode, how many minutes were between those two tests? I see she was dropping back down again in the next hour. You had little sleep that night. I hope you caught up a little on Sunday.

I hope today’s the day she will start coming back down into better numbers (and I would not mind a lack of lime greens for a while either!)
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yes I hope so too. Shes out hunting at the moment which usually is a promising sign.....we will see!

there was 28 minutes and teaspoon of high carb food between the 2.6 and the 4.1 tests. Not sure what you mean about dropping down in the next hour? She was 6.9 at the next test.
 
DavidJ said:
Not sure what you mean about dropping down in the next hour? She was 6.9 at the next test.
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I just said that I hope today she gets down. When I wrote that there was nothing on her spreadsheet but the black AMPS test. And now I see the blue and green. You were right, going out hunting was a good sign.
 
just given her a teaspoon of medium carb. hopefully enough to keep her out of lime green without sending her too high.
 
Suzanne & Darcy said:
I see she was dropping back down again in the next hour.
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Oh, I see what you mean… what I said above. I was just noting that you gave HC food at +7 and she came up just a bit but then she dropped back down again by +8. That happens a lot with HC food. It brings BG up quickly, but frequently doesn’t last. That’s why people are supposed to test for a full two hours after giving HC to bring the BG up. You handled the situation very well. I just couldn’t see the time between tests so I was curious.
 
Suzanne & Darcy said:
Oh, I see what you mean… what I said above. I was just noting that you gave HC food at +7 and she came up just a bit but then she dropped back down again by +8. That happens a lot with HC food. It brings BG up quickly, but frequently doesn’t last. That’s why people are supposed to test for a full two hours after giving HC to bring the BG up. You handled the situation very well. I just couldn’t see the time between tests so I was curious.
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i'm still a bit confused. are you looking at 7 march am cycle or the 8 march pm cycle?
 
any thoughts on tonights dose/dosing scale? I'm hoping I will succeed in keeping her out of lime green but I think she maybe would have earned another reduction today if I'd not been feeding her.
 
DavidJ said:
i'm still a bit confused. are you looking at 7 march am cycle or the 8 march pm cycle?
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Sorry. She’s had more than one recent lime green recently and I should have been more specific. During the a.m. cycle of March 7, I was noticing that she was bobbling around a bit for those two hours. And I was wondering if you were testing every 20 minutes? Or 15 minutes. That’s all. I will be more specific next time. I didn’t mean to confuse you.
 
DavidJ said:
any thoughts on tonights dose/dosing scale? I'm hoping I will succeed in keeping her out of lime green but I think she maybe would have earned another reduction today if I'd not been feeding her.
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Did you give medium carb only the one time? Or more than once today? It looks like, from your spreadsheet, it was just once, correct?
 
Suzanne & Darcy said:
Sorry. She’s had more than one recent lime green recently and I should have been more specific. During the a.m. cycle of March 7, I was noticing that she was bobbling around a bit for those two hours. And I was wondering if you were testing every 20 minutes? Or 15 minutes. That’s all. I will be more specific next time. I didn’t mean to confuse you.
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ha no worries:). i was just worried I was confusing you - when i said 28 minutes i was talking about the pm cycle!
 
I would say that we should let her go down to 1.25 units. If she continues on in green at PMPS time it’s a bit tricky. We have no instances of shooting green preshots with Charly.
 
DavidJ said:
so far medium carb three times low carb once
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Oh. I got my asterisks mixed up for LC and MC then. Mea culpa. I definitely think she needs another dose reduction :) See comments below about tonight. I know I haven’t been specific yet except about the reduction to 1.25. I am mulling over a dosing scale and kind of waiting until it’s closer to shot time.
 
she's not been too bad today to be fair. shes been getting fed after nearly every test which definitely helps! but yes i think her patience might wear thin if we have another cycle of multiple tests tonight
 
How long until her PMPS now?

I am leaning toward not shooting more than 1 unit for tonight unless she has bounced up really high by PMPS time.
 
about an hour. I don't think she will have bounced by then. she's looking very relaxed at the moment.

so 1 unit for anything above 100? that's pretty much what I was thinking too.
 
If she’s pretty high at PMPS then I would go ahead with the 1.25 unit dose. If she’s below 100, I would shoot 1 unit. She’s trending upward as of the last test, but only gradually.
 
Suzanne & Darcy said:
If she’s pretty high at PMPS then I would go ahead with the 1.25 unit dose. If she’s below 100, I would shoot 1 unit. She’s trending upward as of the last test, but only gradually.
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oh. that's a bit different to what i thought.

so 1 unit below 100. that sounds a bit scary - hopefully she will be a bit higher!

what are we calling pretty high then? anything above 100?!
 
DavidJ said:
oh. that's a bit different to what i thought.

so 1 unit below 100. that sounds a bit scary - hopefully she will be a bit higher!

what are we calling pretty high then? anything above 100?!
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Well, let’s look at the trend in her numbers and see where she is soon. She hasn’t eaten anything for two hours, right?
 
Suzanne & Darcy said:
Hopefully she will give us a blue PMPS and you can shoot 1 unit. Would that be all right?
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yup. i'm definitely ok with that. but then i guess if she is in blue she is on her way up so we are probably safe to give 1.25. which is what you were starting to lean towards i think?

i'd like to give her the best chance of not going to high next cycle so if she is trending up as far as blue I think im feeling brave enough to go with that.
 
Good. I see the 155 pmps and it is pretty definitive that she’s on her way up and can have her new dose of 1.25. I wonder how long that will be the new dose?
 
Wow! I had a feeling this would happen. I would not have given the MC this time. If I had food that was 8/9 percent, I would have tried that (just to see if she would surf in green or if she actually needs the reduction.)
 
Maybe we should have reduced her dose to 1 unit after all — we were toying with the idea of it earlier today. Shall we go ahead and let her new dose be 1 unit and see how it goes? She’s either on a mission for remission, as we say, or she will stabilize at a lower dose. I think it can’t hurt to reduce to 1 unit at this point. We can always go back up but clearly she’s just sliding down the dosing ladder at almost every cycle these days.
 
Suzanne & Darcy said:
Wow! I had a feeling this would happen. I would not have given the MC this time. If I had food that was 8/9 percent, I would have tried that (just to see if she would surf in green or if she actually needs the reduction.)
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i'm nearly out of mc now we might have to try something a bit lower soon! but she was looking pretty sorry for herself just this morning in black and shes had occassional trace ketones lately so if we can avoid a bounce for now so much the better im thinking....?

Suzanne & Darcy said:
Maybe we should have reduced her dose to 1 unit after all — we were toying with the idea of it earlier today. Shall we go ahead and let her new dose be 1 unit and see how it goes? She’s either on a mission for remission, as we say, or she will stabilize at a lower dose. I think it can’t hurt to reduce to 1 unit at this point. We can always go back up but clearly she’s just sliding down the dosing ladder at almost every cycle these days.
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yes i think so too. lets try 1 unit tomorrow unless she has a high amps?
 
DavidJ said:
i'm nearly out of mc now we might have to try something a bit lower soon! but she was looking pretty sorry for herself just this morning in black and shes had occassional trace ketones lately so if we can avoid a bounce for now so much the better im thinking....?


yes i think so too. lets try 1 unit tomorrow unless she has a high amps?
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I agree with this— although I think that even if the AMPS is high, we should still stay with 1 unit.
 
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