Buddy's new dose measurement

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Marci and Buddy

Marci and Buddy

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So we're at f.50u,just need to conirm that .50 u is not the first line on the syringe (that one is zero) but the first small line
to the left of it, right? (I use the sringe u 100 half markings.)
also, i am testing for keytones, but what will i do if he is positive for them? i imagine just raise his next dose to 1 u?
so far on ths dose he's not bouncing, but staying steady at high 300's, not sure which is better, but it's only been 3 cycles.
paws crossed he comes down soon (or i will have to buy stock in Feline Pine litter :roll: ) Thanks very much .
 
Yes, the first short line is .5u (the first long line is zero and none of the stopper should fit above it). Yes, also on the ketones - go to your last dose where you know he got below renal threshold - and give sub-Q fluids if you have them.

Steady numbers is good, but not 300s, of course. Let the dose settle, get spot checks, and when you do increase (if needed), do it in the smallest amounts you can. I would go up in .1u amounts if you can (.6u, .7u, etc.). His best dose may be somewhere between .5u and 1u.

Paws crossed for great, non-bouncing numbers some time in his near future.

Which Feline Pine do you use? The pellets or the scoopable? My cats rejected the pellets and I didn't like them either because they disintegrated and you couldn't get the urine-soaked parts up and the pellets were too big for my scooper. I love the scoopable kind. It works really well and is so light. It is a bit dusty though. I mix it with clay about half and half and I just saw that PetSmart has a new Equisicat version that is half clay, half cedar. They stole my idea! I am trying it. It has a strong cedar smell at first, but that fades pretty fast. It will come down to cost for me, but I like not hauling a 20 lb jug of clay up to the 3rd floor every week.
 
thanks Sheila..i do not have sub q fluids -wd. i have to take him to the vet immediately? are sub q fluids inportant to have on hand , do most of us have that as part of our "toolbox" as well?
so i will hold the F.5 dose for 6 cyces , and then go to a thin .75.... if he does have ketones i will go to a fat 1 .sound like a good plan?
oh, he likes the feline pine pellets-and i like the no oder part.but i only have 1 cat, i know its expensive.
 
Marci, since I have never experienced ketones, any info is what I have read here, so it would be best to call the vet right away and ask them.

I have seen several people with trace ketones deal with it at home with fluids. I think even syringing some water into their mouth helps. I just don't know how much would be good. I have read posts from those that have had experience with them managing slightly higher than trace with sub-Q fluids and very diligent testing. I think they use R to get the BG down in addition to Lev/Lantus/whatever insulin they are using normally. This takes experience, so you would not want to try this on your own first time.

Anything above trace, I would call and tell them you are on your way with him.

Maybe someone else reading this can offer their experience on it.
 
The cautious approach regarding ketones of any level always is take them to the vet. If you are urine testing only for ketones (there is a meter available which tests blood ketone level called Precision Xtra, forget who makes it), the problem is that ketones take a bit to show up in urine, so the blood level concentration might be higher than what you're seeing on the urine strip by then.

Best to be cautious, IMO, especially because two of the factors behind creating ketones can be not eating and infection. So you need to get to the bottom of those things in order to resolve the ketones. More insulin might help, but I doubt it's going to clear them up on its own. Same with giving fluids, which can help flush ketones out, but they could return.

We have seen ketones go south quickly on the board so it's time for professional help if they rear their ugly heads. Gandalf has never had them and even though I know what might cause them and how to give fluids I would not want to try to "treat" them at home because I know there would have to be an underlying issue causing them which needs addressed.

Hope that helps and doesn't scare you too much.
 
thanks so much for your opinion...would not want to risk anything , so will see vet if needed.i do know people here treat at home just fine but i have no experience with subq fliuds and i wd.not feel secure treating him at home. thanks Vicky.
 
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