Bowel issues with Dusty

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BJM said:
Mucus-y stools also might be inflammatory bowel disease or a food allergy or intolerance.
Large, stinky, pudding/patty poo may indicate exocrine pancreatic insufficiency - not enough digestive enzymes, so food isn't digested properly. Weight loss is frequent. Treatment is supplemental enzymes which may be found over the counter.
Back within the first year after Dusty was diagnosed with Diabetes is when he began having the bouts of soft serve, cow patty bowel movements. I brought this subject up with and discussed it, at length, with Vet C. She brought up the possibility of Cushings and researched Cushings Disease in cats and found that there really isn’t much out there regarding Cushings in cats except that it’ uncommon. If Cushings is found, there isn’t much offered in successful treatment. That was a couple of years ago and it seems that this research still stands. We also discussed how Dusty’s pancreas may not be producing sufficient digestive enzymes. She decided that it wouldn’t hurt to put him on supplemental digestive enzymes and prescribed “Pancrea”. We used this for around 6 months. It is a powder that you mix a very small amount with their food. You have to let the food sit for 15 – 30 minutes before letting your cat feed off of it. (This was a very hard feat to accomplish at the time because Dusty was sooooo hungry). After around 6 months using this powder we just quit giving it to him because he never showed any improvement. Dusty was still not gaining weight and still had bouts of diarrhea. It was a very expensive supplement. I was using container #2 of the Pancrea when we quit using it. It was around $50 per container. The most it did for Dusty was torture him in having to wait to eat. I usually had to close him off in another room and make him wait. He would scratch at the door (he doesn’t have front claws) and cry the whole time and once released from that room he would tare across the room to get to his food bowl.
When I ran across the article I read regarding gluten intolerance with felines, I felt I could have finally found the problem. That’s when I switched him to the Fancy Feast Classic Chicken Feast. I thought it was worth a try. I made this switch on my own without fist confering with his vets because every time I questioned them about “could it be the food (Purina DM pate’) you are having me give him?” they would say no and move on. The Fancy Feast was OK except for seeing the change in color of the stool, the mucus-y exterior and foul smell. He never had a bout of diarrhea while eating it. When he started eating the Hill’s w/d (chicken) is when he had the best stools. It’s just that being a diet food it made him lose weight (which I was asked to watch for because that was not the intention of giving it to him it was the high fiber content). That’s when he was put back on the Purina DM pate’ and I was told I could keep giving him the Hill’s as 1 of the 3 cans of food he eats daily. By recently finding out that Hill’s is 28% carbs, (which I have to say, I freaked out about) Hill’s, even with the high fiber content is just not worth giving to Dusty. Lowering his BG is my main concern right now.
In all parts of Dusty’s life, even when he was a kitten, he has only eaten food with chicken in it. So I have given some thought about the possibility of Dusty having developed an intolerance to Chicken. I’m just not sure how this is proven and if found what I would instead give Dusty to eat. I’ve thought about how it is known that a strictly fish diet isn’t appropriate. I’ve also given some thought to providing a raw food diet, but everything I’ve read about is made with Chicken.
Since $$$ also factors into how far I can go with treatment for Dusty, I try to consider everything on an importance scale. (Insulin, testing, treatment, food) Right now I pay $32.40 per case for the Purina DM pate’. That’s $1.35 per can. Because Dusty’s BG isn’t under control, he’s always hungry, doesn’t gain weight and eats 3 (5.5 oz.) cans a day – 1 case lasts 8 days. I believe his vets sell the DM to me at cost –or- really close to cost, because I haven’t found where I can purchase a case for less than that anywhere else.
Since Dusty hasn’t had a bout of diarrhea in several month and the one thing that the Hill’s contained that the Purina DM pate’ doesn’t contain is a greater amount of fiber, I’m going to trying mixing in a little pumpkin today, but if this doesn’t work, I would be willing to try (if there is such) a different meat ingredient in a canned cat food, just to see if it is a chicken intolerance. The possibility of chicken intolerance has to be last on my importance list because it just doesn’t seem logical to me. Especially since all the types of food he has had throughout his life has contained chicken in one form or another. I also think that he would always have diarrhea if it were such. I do have to take into consideration that everything concerning Dusty has to be thought about, so to speak, on a thinking outside of the box aspect. Hey, he’s a Cat right?
Any suggestions on a different type of food if the squash doesn’t work?
 
The only way I know of to test for food allergy is to feed a novel protein. There are many cats who are allergic to beef and fish. Chicken or turkey is not a common allergy but it's certainly possible. The typical novel proteins are duck, venison, rabbit, quail, and kangaroo. There are commercial foods available that are low carb and are made from these products.

A different option is a raw food diet. If you take a look at Dr. Lisa's website, she is a big proponent of raw food. There's a section of her website that's devoted to a raw diet. If you make raw food at home, it's much less expensive than canned food or buying commercially prepared raw food. However, I'd see about buying raw via a retail outlet before making it yourself. Dr. Lisa's food chart includes information on the nutritional content of several commercially prepared raw foods.
 
You've ruled out the exocrine pancreatic insufficiency with the trial of enzymes, so that is good.

If it is inflammatory bowel disease, some folks have had great success feeding a raw diet. There is a company that sells frozen whole and ground rabbit Hare Today. It would let you try a novel protein source, too.
 
The one I've had the best luck with although I can't get Shadow to completely convert is Primal raw.
http://www.primalpetfoods.com/product/list/c/7 If you look at this page, they have several protein sources.

You can find Nature's Variety canned rabbit to find out if Dusty even likes rabbit. They also have limited ingredient canned varieties.
Turkey is different than chicken so if chicken is a problem... don't assume that turkey is.
http://www.naturesvariety.com/Instinct/cat/can/all

Nature's variety also has raw available.


You can go to the products website and do a locator search to find the stores near you that carry it.
 
I did some research and I can find the Natures Variety at a Holistic Pet Market that I travel by on my home. The same store also carries Primal Pet Foods :-D Maybe I can stop by there this weekend after I get paid and see how much they are selling it for.
Thanks for the information.
 
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