Biscuits, Skittles and I are back

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Karen & Biscuits

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Hello everyone, I've been a member here for a long time now but absent from the board for quite awhile due to some major life changes and making a big move with all of my cats. I'm finally getting settled into my new home and have a bit more time to devote to this group and update you on what's happening with Biscuits and Skittles, my sugar babies.
Back in October, I was forced to move from Georgia to Kentucky and it's been a nightmare to say the least. I did not want to move but had no choice. Suffice it to say, it has been hard on the cats. I took 36 cats with me, all of my strays and ferals (minus one that got left behind and that's another awful story), and once we got here, 2 went missing. One returned after 3 weeks and the other is still gone.
I am in a much better frame of mind, to some degree, after getting out of a toxic situation that was getting dangerous and I can focus on my cats now without issues.
Biscuits is still seriously out of whack with her sugar. Some of you may recall, last October, she had gone to the vet to have her feet cleaned (she gets litter stuck in her feet due to neuropathy and having less sensation). She had an infection in her feet and she got antibiotics at the vet and they sent her home. That night she had significant pain and I called the vet and they suggested 1/2 a cc of gabapentin to help her with the pain. I gave her that and almost lost her the next morning when she was barely breathing. We found out her sugar had dropped to 28 and it was very scary. I immediately gave her sugar water, one drop at a time, because she was almost unconscious, and as her sugar came back up, she went into a grand mal seizure when it got to around 66 or so. We rushed her to the vet and it took them over 90 minutes to bring her out of the seizure. She continued to have seizures throughout the day and night but the next morning a different vet examined her and started her on midazolam 5 mg and the seizures stopped instantly. She has not had another one since then, but I do believe that big one did some brain damage. She's not the same cat now. She no longer wants to be held, she bites, something she never did before, she has bowel accidents and no longer covers her litter when she does use the litter box. Her sugar is all over the place.
Someone here recommended Dr. Elsey's Clean Protein Chicken for diabetic cats who like kibble. She and her brothers love it but her sugar easily shoots up to 300-500 no matter what I do. She eats Weruva Cats in the Kitchen wet food in the morning, 1/3 of a can because I split it between her and the 2 boys. She sometimes cleans up what they don't eat but generally, they all eat their own portions completely. I have tried not feeding her kibble but it makes no difference. Her sugar is still high, which makes me believe she's either in pain somewhere or we're on the wrong insulin. She is currently on Levemir but with her sugar so unstable, I honestly don't know what dose to give her because sometimes it dips below 100 and other times it's 500 and higher and after that incident with the seizure, I am terrified of giving her insulin when she goes below 100 for obvious reasons. I had her on 3 units twice a day for a long time, then the vet suggested 3.5 units, but nothing seems to work. Prior to Levemir, she was on Vetsulin and that didn't work either.
Her brother, Skittles is on Vetsulin and he does well on that. He stays between 120-250, depending on his food intake. He saw a new vet here recently, so we could continue with the Vetsulin in KY, and he upped it to 5 units twice a day and so far his sugar is stable at about 130-150, still not where I'd like it to be but much better than it was. The rest of his bloodwork looked really good for his age so the vet said just to keep doing what we're doing. He's eating the exact same diet as Biscuits and their brother Purrcey, all 3 are on Dr. Elsey's dry food and the Weruva CIK wet food. Purrcey is not diabetic thankfully. All 3 are littermates though.
I did have a spreadsheet some time ago for Biscuits, but it hasn't been updated in a very long time. I may just delete what was there and start over - or would that be a bad idea?
What would you recommend for her at this point to bring her sugar down? I'm really at a loss.
Thank you for taking the time to read this and I wish you a blessed weekend.

Karen, Biscuits and Skittles
 
Hi Karen, I'm sorry you have had such an awful time one way and another. I hope things improve from here on, for you and the kitties.

I did have a spreadsheet some time ago for Biscuits, but it hasn't been updated in a very long time. I may just delete what was there and start over - or would that be a bad idea?
Don't delete any SS. I'll ask @Bandit's Mom if she will set up 2 new SS for you.
If you can start adding some data inti the new SS it will help us to be able to help you. We really need to see some data before we can comment on the dose.

Dr. Elsey's Clean Protein Chicken for diabetic cats who like kibble. She and her brothers love it but her sugar easily shoots up to 300-500 no matter what I do.
I've heard that some cats do get high BG with the low carb dry food.
Do you think she could be bouncing?
Levemir is a very good insulin for cats. I used it for Sheba and loved it.
How long has Biscuits been on Lev?
Is your signature up to date?
 
You've and your cats have been through a lot.:bighug::bighug::bighug:

Don't worry about updating the spreadsheet since you last did entries. Start with the last two weeks worth of data and then we can take a look at it. I also loved Levemir with Neko.
 
You've and your cats have been through a lot.:bighug::bighug::bighug:

Don't worry about updating the spreadsheet since you last did entries. Start with the last two weeks worth of data and then we can take a look at it. I also loved Levemir with Neko.
I will gladly do that, thank you for the tip :)
 
Hi Karen, I'm sorry you have had such an awful time one way and another. I hope things improve from here on, for you and the kitties.


Don't delete any SS. I'll ask @Bandit's Mom if she will set up 2 new SS for you.
If you can start adding some data inti the new SS it will help us to be able to help you. We really need to see some data before we can comment on the dose.


I've heard that some cats do get high BG with the low carb dry food.
Do you think she could be bouncing?
Levemir is a very good insulin for cats. I used it for Sheba and loved it.
How long has Biscuits been on Lev?
Is your signature up to date?

She is definitely bouncing but I don't know why. There is no consistent dose that works for her to keep her BG stable, I mean nothing seems to work. Skittles started on Vetsulin 7 years ago when he was diagnosed, they've only upped his dose twice and most recently about 2 months ago to 5 units 2x a day. Biscuits is all over the place, doesn't seem to matter if I withhold the dry food or not. She's been on Levemir about a year now and initially she did very well with it but after about 2 months her BG went wonky again.
I'm not sure about my signature, I'll check it out and update it if it's not :)
 
She is definitely bouncing but I don't know why. There is no consistent dose that works for her to keep her BG stable, I mean nothing seems to work. Skittles started on Vetsulin 7 years ago when he was diagnosed, they've only upped his dose twice and most recently about 2 months ago to 5 units 2x a day. Biscuits is all over the place, doesn't seem to matter if I withhold the dry food or not. She's been on Levemir about a year now and initially she did very well with it but after about 2 months her BG went wonky again.
I'm not sure about my signature, I'll check it out and update it if it's not :)
Once we can see some BG data, we can get an idea of why she might be bouncing. Some cats bounce more than others, so don’t try and compare your two.
My Sheba was a big bouncer and diver. Others settle down and never bounce. It’s not anything you are doing wrong, it’s her body reacting to maybe dropping too low, too fast or maybe she is not used to the lower numbers yet.
 
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