? Big drop at +2from 303 to 96

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Your SS reminds me of Chuck's. I looked and tried to find a pattern but as soon as I found one it was gone!
Anything different that could have cause the red? Early or late shot? Get into any extra HC food?
I can see what you mean about him not really fitting in with the protocol. ECID. I follow TR protocol and get impatient but usually as soon as I post about increasing, Chuck makes me look silly and has better numbers.
 
Have you gotten a ketone test done? You should be able to pick up ketone test strips at any pharmacy. Just need to catch some fresh urine with a spoon (probably want to have one just for Tilica ;)) and read the result in specified time frame. You could try moving it to the regular 1.5U :).
 
StephG said:
Your SS reminds me of Chuck's. I looked and tried to find a pattern but as soon as I found one it was gone!
Anything different that could have cause the red? Early or late shot? Get into any extra HC food?
I can see what you mean about him not really fitting in with the protocol. ECID. I follow TR protocol and get impatient but usually as soon as I post about increasing, Chuck makes me look silly and has better numbers.
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Hi Steph, there is no pattern:). Yesterday I didn't anything different, the shot was at time, the food was the same. But today ar AMPS he was at 211. ECID !
 
Yong said:
Have you gotten a ketone test done? You should be able to pick up ketone test strips at any pharmacy. Just need to catch some fresh urine with a spoon (probably want to have one just for Tilica ;)) and read the result in specified time frame. You could try moving it to the regular 1.5U :).
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Hi, I usually do the ketone test but this morning I wasn't able to catch him at bathroom. Anyway it was surprinsing his number 211. At PMPS probably I'll shoot 1.5.
 
Hi Andreea,

You have a very bouncy kitty who won't follow any rules. Is the other L insulin called Levemir available in your country? Some people have found that it makes their kitties more stable.

I agree that some kitties don't want to follow the protocol no matter how hard you try. You might want to make adjustments that work better for Tilica by doing a little experimenting: for example, finding a reasonable, but not perfect, dose and keeping it longer - maybe 1.5 u?
 
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Hi Andreea,

You have a very bouncy kitty who won't follow any rules. Is the other L insulin called Levemir available in your country? Some people have found that it makes their kitties more stable.
I agree that some kitties don't want to follow the protocol no matter how hard you try. You might want to make adjustments that work better for Tilica by doing a little experimenting: for example, finding a reasonable, but not perfect, dose and keeping it longer - maybe 1.5 u?
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Hi Kris, Levemir is available in my country but the vets have not any experience with this insulin and it's difficult to set the starting dose.
I kept the dose of 1.5s due to the yesterday PMPS number, the BG was decreasing and I was afraid not to have a big drop in the first hours after the shot.
 
Andreea said:
Levemir is available in my country but the vets have not any experience with this insulin and it's difficult to set the starting dose.
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I like Kris's suggestion on trying Levemir. On this forum, we set the starting dose of Levemir at 70% of the dose of the Lantus. Which would be 1.0 units for Tillica. The biggest issue is that the onset and nadir are typically a couple of hours later on Levemir, and that doesn't fit everyones's schedule. "Typical" Levemir onset is +4 and nadir +8. Neko was not typical. :rolleyes: She onset more like +5 and nadir was from +9 to +12. That part was great because I was always home and awake for +12.:)

I noticed you had a note that you gave squids at +11. Where did you give them in relation to the shot? Some kitties have a steep drop if the fluids are too close (physically and in time) to the insulin shot. I used to do squids around +11, but Neko's onset wasn't until +5. But not all kitties do drop with fluids. You might want to try them in a separate location if you aren't already. I shot scruff for fluids and on the other side and the flank for the insulin.
 
Wendy&Neko said:
I like Kris's suggestion on trying Levemir. On this forum, we set the starting dose of Levemir at 70% of the dose of the Lantus. Which would be 1.0 units for Tillica. The biggest issue is that the onset and nadir are typically a couple of hours later on Levemir, and that doesn't fit everyones's schedule. "Typical" Levemir onset is +4 and nadir +8. Neko was not typical. :rolleyes: She onset more like +5 and nadir was from +9 to +12. That part was great because I was always home and awake for +12.:)

I noticed you had a note that you gave squids at +11. Where did you give them in ,relation to the shot? Some kitties have a steep drop if the fluids are too close (physically and in time) to the insulin shot. I used to do squids around +11, but Neko's onset wasn't until +5. But not all kitties do drop with fluids. You might want to try them in a separate location if you aren't already. I shot scruff for fluids and on the other side and the flank for the insulin.
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Hi Wendy, the fluids were given at +11 in other location in relation with insulin. I shot scruff for insulin but the fluids were shot into flank. It seems like too much insulin? Tomorrow the bounce will be high, I'm sure. If I understand well Levemir is a slower insulin than Lantus and it keeps BG more constant?
Maybe at PMPS I should have reduced the dose due to to the drop from +10 to +12? Neither Tilica is typical that's why I'm very confused.
 
Some, but not all, kitties are flatter on Levemir. Neko was, it made her more predictable. It's not so much a slower insulin, but rather a little longer lasting.
 
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