BG HI (over 600) and I believe injection was not correct

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Hi, everyone...

So, this is what I "think" I did: BG is "hi" and I injected 2.5 units of vetsulin around her belly area. Upon dropping the "tent" I felt wetness on the back side. I am pretty sure I have pierced through both sides and none of the insulin was of any use. I'm not for positive, but knowing that I was on the lower side of the recommended dosage for that reading, I injected .5 units into the scruff of the neck hoping to see the numbers decrease. It's been 30 minutes and her BG is still "hi." What do I do?
 
well....
what you did is what we call a furshot..... and it's frustrating.... and it happens often... but we don't give another shot after that.... just in case "some " went in....

I can see why you would want to with the high number and the insulin being used....

Are you monitoring for ketones? get ketostix... at any pharmacy....

if the numbers stay high all night, and you are up... or up early... you can probably shoot earlier.... I know vetsulin is a short acting insulin ....
 
I've been trying to work with the vetsulin but the most I can get out of it is 8 hours. I was gone this afternoon and Zoey snuck some high-carb food from her siblings so when I got home, her BG was sky high. Normally when I inject her, I get some kind of downward movement pretty quick on the vetsulin. But it's been over half an hour and I got nothing. Should I wait another hour and test and then dose accordingly if there's no movement? Testing her every few hours through the night is not a problem (well, other than she's not going to like it very much ...) I do have the ketostyx but I've not had a chance to check her today for ketones. I have clumping litter ... can I stick a ketostyx in there and get a reading?
 
Better too high for a day than too low for a moment. Hypoglycemia (too low) can kill very quickly.

Since the duration appears to be only 8 hours, is it possible for you to give the insulin every 8 yours?
 
I have been giving every 8 hours. Of course, I just started doing that yesterday (after Tuesday's vet visit/approval) and everything was going fine until now. Zoey is hungry (she's always hungry). Should I feed her before I give her dose? I've been regularly monitoring Zoey and then dosing once her numbers start pushing 500. Sometimes it's six hours, sometimes seven; and I've been dosing according to her number at around the 6 - 8 hour mark.
 
perhaps if Zoey makes really big puddles.... so that you have liquid to dip the stick in..... you want fresh pee..... you can get false readings from old pee.....

I had great luck putting a plastic bag over the cat box..... and my cat just went on the plastic bag..... ( lucky me)
You want it to be loose enough that they can feel the litter under the bag .....and then you hope they don't shred it....
 
hmmm..... I see laxatone on your info....
that has loads of sugar in it.... really bad for her....
it's better to use Vaseline, or butter, or coconut oil.....


yes.... until she's regulated, her appetite will be high.....
her body isn't getting enough of the nutrition that she consumes....
I would feed her myself, since you are using vetsulin. It's not such a drama causing insulin...
 
I've attached a timeline of her insulin/bg doses. Please give me any advice. We have a vet appointment next week so I am up to changing insulin if that will do the trick. Vet seems to think her insulin need will go away when the pancreatitis heals.
 

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I feed all of mine Friskies pates that I put out twice a day or so and leave out.

You may need to feed about 50% more food than a normal cat because an unregulated diabetic can't use much of the food that it eats.

When you have a scarfer, freeze part of it to be nibbled as it thaws.

And spreading it thinly across the plate slows the cat down a bit.

Adding water increases the volume so the cat feels more full and helps with hydration, as the unregulated diabetic urinates excessively.
 
I actually need to change the Lexatone. She's not taking that anymore. She was backed up but now she's not. I've been giving her 1/8 tspn. Miralax (1/4 tspn max daily) in her food, 2 x daily. That has helped her.
 
you are getting a reaction from the insulin so that's good news....

I would say Zoey will do much better when you change..... hopefully you can get lantus, or levemir or pzi.....

call around local pharmacies, and ask if they will sell you a pen, ( they come in packs of 5) , there is always someone who will break up a pack..... they often do for humans....
but if you know you can get one ahead of time, your vet can write /call you in a prescription for the pen..... you use it just like a vial..... you don't need the needles that come with it...
 
Those are genius ideas on food regulating. I have been adding water to her food when I've given her a bit of her daily portion in between her feedings. She's 10 pounds so I'm trying to feed her 1.5 cans per day. I also put "dirt" (diatomaceous earth) in all our critters' food; along with ACV. Would any of that cause her a problem or be something of concern with her diabetes? Vet says no problem.
 
Can we get you started using our grid to record your glucose tests? It will help us give you better feedback. Instructions are here.

Understanding the spreadsheet/grid:

The colored headings at the top are the ranges of glucose values. They are color-coded to clue you in as to meaning.

Each day is 1 row. Each column stores different data for the day.

From left to right, you enter
the Date in the first column
the AMPS (morning pre-shot test) in the 2nd column
the Units given (turquoise column)

Then, there are 11 columns labeled +1 through +11
If you test at +5 (5 hours after the shot), you enter the test number in the +5 column
If you test at +7 (7 hours after the shot), you enter the test number in the +7 column
and so on.

Halfway across the page is the column for PMPS (evening pre-shot)
To the right is another turquoise column for Units given at the evening shot.

There is second set of columns labeled +1 through +11
If you snag a before bed test at +3, you enter the test number in the +3 column.

We separate day and night numbers like that because many cats go lower at night.

It is merely a grid for storing the info; no math required.
 
I was just looking at the Tech Support page for the grid instructions. I will work on that tomorrow afternoon after work. Thank you for sharing your instructions. :)

It is food grade DE and we give it to our pets for internal parasites/general health benefits. Goats rarely have to be wormed and cats' coats have improved. Also reading it's supposed to help with pancreatitis (but that's not why we give it). We had started our cats not quite a month ago after the goats did so well, so I was concerned it might have caused her pancreatitis. Vet said no, it wouldn't hurt her. We also dust our cats in it for fleas instead of using the stuff on the neck. (And yes, almost everyone in my family has started taking it for aches/pains/skin health ... truly amazing stuff, but that's a totally different forum. )
 
I have fed Zoey 1/4 can of Friskie's Special Diet with a good amount of water ...soupy. She's happy for the moment and does not appear concerned about her elevated BG in the least bit. It is about 11:00 p.m. here. I will get a few hours of sleep and get up about 3:30/4:00 and check her BG and then start the process over again, just a couple hours short of the 8 hour mark. She's already urinated for the night so in the morning I will move her and her litter box to my office where I can keep an eagle eye on her and catch her for the ketostyx check.

Thank you for the advice. It is reassuring to say the least, and greatly appreciated!
 
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