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Laura and Harley (GA)

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Some of you may have already seen the news on DCIN's Facebook page, others may have read my thread on Diabetic Cat Help but for some reason, to post here, which I consider to be "home" is the hardest of all. It makes things very real.

I've been fostering Bagheera for DCIN since Monday, March 5. I first learned about him in January when Celine, his DCIN Case Manager, contacted me because I lived close by and asked if I could visit Amy and Bagheera and show Amy how to hometest because she was having difficulties. It turned out that she was able to figure things out on her own, but since I knew there was a sugar cat out there so close by, I signed up for Diabetic Cat Help in order to follow their progress. In late February/early March DCIN sought for a foster home for Bagheera as his mom had family members with serious health issues that were preventing her from being able to care for Bagheera. The plan was for me to foster him until her family issues resolved and then we'd send him back home.

I'd last posted that Bagheera needed a dental and that he was starting to have episodes of coughing/gasping for air. I took a video of one of the episodes and sent it to my vet. Her first thought was asthma, lungworm or heartworm. He's an indoor only kitty and didn't come to me with fleas or ticks and my other cats don't have them either so I wasn't as worried about the last two possibilities but asthma was a very real possibility. But there was no pattern in his episodes and he'd do them for a couple of days and stop for a couple of days, even 2 weeks at one time, so I allowed myself to be lulled into a false sense that maybe there was nothing wrong after all. I blame myself for not being more proactive. Usually I'm the anal kitty mommy who runs to the vet at the first sign of trouble. I wish I'd taken him in sooner than last week.

I finally contacted DCIN to get him Bagheera to see the vet but it was last Wednesday after I came home from work to find him meatloafing, eyes closed, and non responsive to my touch. I ran for the testing kit and got a BG reading - 197 - but had to poke him 6 times to get any blood. He didn't flinch or open his eyes and his breathing sounded labored. I found some vomit close by and my first thought was a possible GI upset or even a pancreatitis attack. I called my vets office but they were closing and they told me to take him to an ER. I called Venita and she sent us to Veterinary Specialty Center. Upon arrival they took his vitals and told me he had a 105 degree fever. They ran bloodwork and took an x-ray. It was a 5 dog emergency night so I ended up waiting 4 hours before I was called back for the results. His bloodwork was normal except for slightly elevated WBCs (eosinophils and neutraphils). The X-ray showed a large white mass in his right lung. The doctor showed it to me and it was so big it looked like it was obscuring the heart. The ER vet recommended a thoracic ultrasound and fine needle aspiration to determine whether the mass was cancer. She did mention the possibility of it being pneumonia, or lungworm, but said that it was most likely cancerous. Bagheera spent the night and the procedure was performed on Thursday. He came through it with flying colors, his fever came down thanks to being on IVs and he came home on Thursday night. Venita and I got a hold of Amy on Thursday to give her the news. The histology report came through on Saturday and the results point to a primary bronchogenic anaplastic carcinoma. The tumor is 4.8 cm by 4.5 cm. According to the vets, he has 1-3 months as this is a very aggressive, fast growing cancer. It's growing so fast that it doesn't have enough of a blood supply to support itself so the center is dying and becoming infected which is causing inflamation and the fever. I can even feel a hot spot on his chest right behind his right front paw which must be the area where the lung and the tumor are located. If he sits down and puts pressure on that area, he starts to cough.

I called Amy Saturday night night with the news and asked her blessing to adopt Bagheera for the time he has left. She has given her consent and the papers were signed on Sunday. She will be coming by sometime this week to say her goodbyes to him while he is still himself. DCIN and I are working together on next steps for palliative care and end of life care. As the tumor grows, I can expect more of these coughing/gasping episodes and eventually it will start to press on the trachea and bronchus causing him to have trouble breathing. It's at that point that we need to release him from any further suffering. Pain medications are not an option because they depress breathing and he is already functioning with diminished breathing capabilities.

I talked to my regular vets office yesterday and we are putting Bagheera on ABx and Piroxicam to control the inflamation, infection and fever caused by the tumor. That's all we can do for him. I can do SubQ fluids if he appears to be dehydrated but only 50ccs and every other day as build up of fluid in the lungs are real concerns.

I won't be posting any more BG numbers for Bagheera although I'll still be treating his diabetes and maintaining his SS.

Please keep Amy, Bagheera and me in your prayers.
 
(((((Laura))))))

I knew the news before seeing this post, Venita had mentioned it while we were still dealing with Musette, but I didn't want to say anything until you were ready....Thank you so much for loving him enough to give him an official home to end his days in, and Amy for loving him enough to allow you to adopt him. You both are incredible loving women and Bagheera is one lucky boy to be so loved.

No matter if we have them for a few weeks, months or years they leave such big paw prints on our hearts. Tons of prayers coming for all three of you. Just wish I was closer to give you big hang on forever hugs.

Mel, Maxwell, Autumn & The Fur Gang
 
Oh, Laura, this made me cry.

I, too, knew the news but you are right, this makes it official. And I realize that his days are very numbers. These things are so unfair and I am sure you feel as helpless about it as I do with Jeddie. I am truly sorry that this is happening.

I know that he is receiving the best care he could from you along with love and affection. And you won't let him suffer. You can't do more. This was probably going on when you got him. Crap, I hate cancer!

Give Bagheera a pat and a kiss from me. cat_pet_icon

Big ((((hugs))))
 
MommaOfMuse said:
(((((Laura))))))

I knew the news before seeing this post, Venita had mentioned it while we were still dealing with Musette, but I didn't want to say anything until you were ready....Thank you so much for loving him enough to give him an official home to end his days in, and Amy for loving him enough to allow you to adopt him. You both are incredible loving women and Bagheera is one lucky boy to be so loved.

No matter if we have them for a few weeks, months or years they leave such big paw prints on our hearts. Tons of prayers coming for all three of you. Just wish I was closer to give you big hang on forever hugs.

Mel, Maxwell, Autumn & The Fur Gang

Oh Mel, I wish I were close enough to hug you too! Venita and I were talking about Musette last Thursday and hoping against hope that she would be able to pull through. It was a triple shock when I logged on to the board to see your posting that she'd flow free. There was just too much sadness in my heart for you to be able to contain it all. I admire your bravery in being able to carry on despite the pain.

I'm trying to fight this thing the only way I know how - to love him while he's still here and keep a camera with me everywhere I go in the house so I can take as many pictures as I can to remember. That way I'll still be able to go on loving him even when he's flying free above me. I'll bet he can't wait to chase the feather toy again, or bound after the squirrels..
 
Sheila & Beau & Jeddie said:
Oh, Laura, this made me cry.

I, too, knew the news but you are right, this makes it official. And I realize that his days are very numbers. These things are so unfair and I am sure you feel as helpless about it as I do with Jeddie. I am truly sorry that this is happening.

I know that he is receiving the best care he could from you along with love and affection. And you won't let him suffer. You can't do more. This was probably going on when you got him. Crap, I hate cancer!

Give Bagheera a pat and a kiss from me. cat_pet_icon

Big ((((hugs))))

Thank you Sheila (((((big hugs))))),

It's so ironic that we're walking the same path together with Jeddie and Bagheera. I've gone back and re-read a lot of your posts and I "get" things a lot more clearly now that I'm feeling some of the same emotions. I admire you so much for being able to express them so well. There's noting like the frustration of trying to fight a disease that is slowly but surely destroying one cat's ability to eat and another's ability to draw breath. I'm soooo with you - I hate cancer!

You're right, he most likely came to me already sick - we just didn't know it then. After Amy left and I fed him and gave him his shot he started drinking water and then started coughing/gasping. I had no idea what he was doing. I smelled his bad breath and thought maybe he had a bad tooth and the cold water made it painful. When I gave him his shot, I used the "right armpit" - that flap of skin right behind the right front leg - and felt warmth. He'd just gotten up off the floor and his whole underbelly was warm but this spot was warmer yet I thought nothing more about it. Signs everywhere and I didn't know that something was wrong. Would 3 months have made a difference? Could we have found it and operated? There's no way to ever know. All I can do is move forward, learn from the situation and try to give him as much care and love as I can. cat_pet_icon

Thank you for the hugs and encouragement!

Oh, and if you don't get any satisfaction from the vets on buprenex, I have I think 8 1ml ampules at home. I could send you a few. If you are interested...
 
(((Laura))) When you shared DCIN's post about an anonymous kitty, I had a bad feeling that it was Bagheera. I am so sorry that this is happening to him. You will undoubtedly make his time left more comfortable and full of loving memories. I am so glad that you were the one to foster him when Amy could no longer take care of him. It's such an amazing act of love that she is releasing him to you fully and that you are willing to take on this heart breaking responsibility.
Sending comforting thoughts, healing prayers, and strength to you and Bagheera.
:YMHUG: :YMHUG: :YMHUG: :YMHUG: :YMHUG: :YMHUG: :YMHUG: :YMHUG: (and a ton of hugs!)
 
Laura -

I'm so sorry to read this. I remember reading when you first posted about Bagheera - I thought it was such a unique name. Your kindness is obvious from your first efforts to help Amy and him, and even more so with your more recent efforts. There's a special place in heaven for our dear babies, and an even more special one for people who love them.

God Bless you all.

Lu-Ann
 
Laura, I am so sorry this is happening for Bagheera. He is very lucky to have you looking after him and adopting him, regardless of when you discovered his illness you are doing right by him. Bless you. ((((((Laura))))))

I just don't understand what's happening to our kitties.
 
Gosh, I don't know that you could have found it sooner. And even if you had..... just don't second guess yourself. Please know that is coming from someone that is trying hard to not do that herself. There are all those "what ifs". I am even "what ifing" my cat that died from nasal lymphoma five years ago! All we can do is learn from these experiences. There is so much of their short lives that seems to be written in their history from the moment of birth that we can not change, mostly because we don't know yet. We know the possibilities and choose to love them anyway knowing our hearts will take a beating (pun there, but I meant the "bad" kind of beating). You can't truly know great love without great sorrow just as you can't really know light without dark.

I also am catching pictures as much as I can and trying to not leave out the others. Who knows what there futures are? I got a great photo of Jeddie sleeping on the balcony this afternoon. I saw him through the glass and got my camera, then I decided I would try sticking the camera out the kitty door in the screen and get him from low down by the floor. So cute.

I am glad that you are taking some comfort or knowledge from what I have written. I decided to put it all out there. As hard as that is at times, I need the support and empathy from all of you. Plus I want someone else to be able to know what the "process" is if, God forbid, they have to face it themselves one day. It has helped me to read what others experienced and what decisions they made and why.
 
Marcy, Lu-Ann and Vicky - thank you!!! for the warmth and well wishes. They mean the world to me right now. And yes, what IS happening to all our kitties? PZI and Lev have been hit very hard lately. :sad:

I started Bagheera's Clavamox lat night and the good news is he'll let me give it to him because it's compounded with liquid chicken. ( ;-) ) But I think it's killing his appetite. He didn't want to eat any lunch today. If he doesn't vomit or have liquipoo (I'm also using probiotics) then I'll trot out the cyproheptadine and keep going with the ABx. If he starts the nasty GI symptoms, then I'll have to stop.

I'm waiting until I see what side effects he has from the ABx before I start the Piroxicam because that could have GI effects as well. I guess I'll have to get Bagheera his very own pillbos for my counter now. Harley's is blue, Princess's is green (to match her eyes) and maybe I'll go yellow or purple for Bagheera. :YMSIGH:
 
Laura,
BIG HUGE HUG for doing this for this sweet baby. I know the pain this will cause your heart but I also understand the joy as I also walk this path with my sweet Harley Drooler with lymphoma. He was diagnosed March 23rd, already stage 3 - they told us 30-60 days. We've PASSED our 60 days, he's still just as silly and smiling as he was March 22nd, still eating and drinking and DIGGING. He takes Prednisone daily for the inflammation and a round of antibiotics every 3 weeks to support his lack of an immune system. I sometimes think knowing is worse - the anticipatory grief can be overwhelming at times.

Another BIG HUGE HUG and lots of prayers for all of you for as long as they're needed...
 
Laura and Harley said:
I guess I'll have to get Bagheera his very own pillbos for my counter now. Harley's is blue, Princess's is green (to match her eyes) and maybe I'll go yellow or purple for Bagheera. :YMSIGH:

Isn't it crazy when we have more pet meds in our house than people meds??? Last time I had a bee sting, I had to tap into Murphy's 100 tablet bottle of Benedryl - she always loved a good wrestling match w/ a bee!!! :lol:

After cleaning out all the old stuff, I still have a shoebox sized container of pet meds! For me there's Excedrin (gotta work), Excedrin Back & Body (gotta move), and Excedrin PM (and gotta sleep)!!! ;-) Go figure!
 
I started Bagheera's Clavamox lat night and the good news is he'll let me give it to him because it's compounded with liquid chicken. ( ) But I think it's killing his appetite. He didn't want to eat any lunch today. If he doesn't vomit or have liquipoo (I'm also using probiotics) then I'll trot out the cyproheptadine and keep going with the ABx. If he starts the nasty GI symptoms, then I'll have to stop.

Klinger's on Clavamox (pill form) for pulse therapy and it was making him vomit. The vet had us give him pepcid ac, wait 15 minutes, feed and make sure he eats well, then give him the ab. It has helped. She said that if it didn't work, they would give us nausea meds and an appetite stimulant. Maybe give pepcid ac a try and play around with the timing.

Continuing to send good thoughts to you guys.
 
Squeaky and KT said:
Laura,
BIG HUGE HUG for doing this for this sweet baby. I know the pain this will cause your heart but I also understand the joy as I also walk this path with my sweet Harley Drooler with lymphoma. He was diagnosed March 23rd, already stage 3 - they told us 30-60 days. We've PASSED our 60 days, he's still just as silly and smiling as he was March 22nd, still eating and drinking and DIGGING. He takes Prednisone daily for the inflammation and a round of antibiotics every 3 weeks to support his lack of an immune system. I sometimes think knowing is worse - the anticipatory grief can be overwhelming at times.

Another BIG HUGE HUG and lots of prayers for all of you for as long as they're needed...

Thank you Lyressa for the hugs, I could really use them right now. I'm so glad your Harley drooler is responding to the prednisolone and you are able to enjoy more quality time with him. I have a Harley kitty (who thinks he's a drooler) and he's on pred. too for IBD and possible small cell lymphoma. You're so right about the anticipatory grieving. I did that when Harley was diagnosed and also when my Princes kitty was diagnosed with mammary cancer one year ago. Now, I'm a lot calmer and just treat them the best I can and enjoy the time that I have with them because I know it's all borrowed time. I'm trying to get there with Bagheera too, it's just a huge sad shock because he was supposed to only be in my care for a short time and then go happily back home and that's not going to happen now.


Grayson & Lu said:
Isn't it crazy when we have more pet meds in our house than people meds??? Last time I had a bee sting, I had to tap into Murphy's 100 tablet bottle of Benedryl - she always loved a good wrestling match w/ a bee!!! :lol:

:shock: :shock: :lol: :lol: Wresting with a bee??? I'd like to see that on video...

Grayson & Lu said:
After cleaning out all the old stuff, I still have a shoebox sized container of pet meds! For me there's Excedrin (gotta work), Excedrin Back & Body (gotta move), and Excedrin PM (and gotta sleep)!!! ;-) Go figure!

Oh phew, I'm not too far gone yet...I have 3 cupboards devoted to cat supplies. 1 1/2 for kitty food and 1 1/2 for all the kitty meds. :-D :-D :-D

Marcy & Klinger said:
Klinger's on Clavamox (pill form) for pulse therapy and it was making him vomit. The vet had us give him pepcid ac, wait 15 minutes, feed and make sure he eats well, then give him the ab. It has helped. She said that if it didn't work, they would give us nausea meds and an appetite stimulant. Maybe give pepcid ac a try and play around with the timing.

Continuing to send good thoughts to you guys.
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Thanks Marcy for the tips on the Clavamox. Fortunately Bagheera has started to eat again. He's a little down on appetite - eating his meals in 2 helpings now instead of just one. No vomiting and no liquipoo yet. If he does get a tummy upset, I'll know what to do. Tonight I'm going to start the Piroxicam. Keeping fingers crossed...
 
Laura and Harley said:
:shock: :shock: :lol: :lol: Wresting with a bee??? I'd like to see that on video...

The bee usually won. Don't know why I never took a picture of her w/ the EGG on top of her nose or head. Most of the time on the outside, sometimes INSIDE her mouth. I don't know that she ever made the connection... wrestle... ouch!... can't see over my snout... pill... nap ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ! :lol: :lol: :lol:
 
Just a quick update on Bagheera. He's been on the Clavamox for 5 days now and except for the slight loss of appetite the first 2 days, he's done well with no side effects. I started the Piroxicam on Thursday and noticed an immediate improvement. He's more like himself, more talkative, jumping up on the top of the couch to look out at the squirrels and rabbits in my backyard, sleeping at the foot of my bed and his appetite is improved. It looks like we are targeting his biggest need which is anti-inflamatory for the fever and infection and also pain relief. The antibiotic is good for the inflamation / infection too.

I both talked to and saw Bagheera's regular vet, Dr. Christie, yesterday when I took Dillon in for his pre-travel vet visit. I gave a quick update on Bagheera and she said she'd been doing some reading and suggested that we add fish oil to his food for its anti-inflamatory properties. She said the response is variable in other diseases (such as kidney disease) but fish oil appears effective in research studies. In pets with some types of cancer, fish oil has slowed down the growth and spread of the cancer. So I started that tonight. It also might have an added bonus of encouraging him to eat.

I don't want to stress him out by doing tons of different medications but these 3, plus his insulin, I think are reasonable approaches. Cross paws, he hasn't coughed or wheezed since I started the Piroxicam.

Clavamox 62.5mg, BID
Piroxicam, 1 mg, QD, for 7 days, then EOD afterwards
1000-12000mg fish oil sprinkled on his food QD
 
Laura, you do know about gel caps, right? I love those things! Civvie Callie gets 2 meds 2 X's a day & it's so much easier putting the both of them in that gel cap. Then at times like tonight when she has something else added I don't have to keep shoving things in her, she just thinks she's getting her regular stuff. I just chase it down with a little water in a syringe & she's done.

I love those pics of Hadley & Bagheera cuddling...none of mine do that so I'm jealous!
 
That is good news. Glad he is more himself and enjoying his days better.

That's interesting about the fish oil. What kind are you using? I tried that years ago but they all ended up with salmon breath!
 
Sheila & Beau & Jeddie said:
That is good news. Glad he is more himself and enjoying his days better.

That's interesting about the fish oil. What kind are you using? I tried that years ago but they all ended up with salmon breath!

I'm using Natural Factors Wild Alaskan Salmon Oil which comes in 1000mg gelcaps. I just take a lancet and poke a hole in the gelcap and squeeze on his food. Since I feed 4 times a day, I divide the gelcap over 4 meals. When not in use, I store the gelcap in an empty pill bottle with the poked end up - although that's not really necessary since the hole seals over pretty quickly.

How did you notice the salmon breath? Mine all smell like fish breath already even without the supplement? :razz: :lol:
 
Barbara said:
Laura, you do know about gel caps, right? I love those things! Civvie Callie gets 2 meds 2 X's a day & it's so much easier putting the both of them in that gel cap. Then at times like tonight when she has something else added I don't have to keep shoving things in her, she just thinks she's getting her regular stuff. I just chase it down with a little water in a syringe & she's done.

I love those pics of Hadley & Bagheera cuddling...none of mine do that so I'm jealous!

Barbara, I'm proud of you - you took my advice about the gelcaps. :razz: :razz: :lol: :lol:

Bagheera is getting liquid compounded meds. though because he has a dental lesion which makes his mouth painful and thus virtually impossible to pill. So limiting the number of meds. is important since we can't do a dental procedure now.

Harley gets 4 meds. in gelcaps 2 times a day and Princess gets 3 meds. in a gelcap in the evening. I have color coded pillboxes on my kitchen counter for the cats. Me? I just take mine right out of the bottle whenever I remember to. :lol:
 
What a difference! SO glad to hear the meds are going smoothly and successfully!

Too bad Kim's vet didn't recommend the gel caps when she was pilling Kitty. She HATED to be pilled! I never thought about it, but it sure makes it much easier on the kitty.

Hoping things continue to go well for you & Bagheera!
 
Thanks Laura, I'm going to look for that brand locally. I don't know about putting it on his food. With all his saliva things get slippery enough, but maybe he can lick it enough to do some good?
 
Sheila I don't know if it's available locally - I think I bought mine online from iHerb.com when I bought all the supplements for raw food feeding.

If putting it on his food doesn't work, maybe just squeezing the oil onto a plate or saucer and letting him lick it up might help.
 
Laura and Harley said:
Barbara, I'm proud of you - you took my advice about the gelcaps. :razz: :razz: :lol: :lol:

As I was typing that I wondered if it was you who had told me about gel caps! I decided to go ahead though just in case. I had also remembered Wendy talking about getting them on EBay, which is where I ended up getting mine, so I was all confused. My excuse is the blonde hair! :lol:

Lu, most vets probably don't even know about the gel caps!
 
Barbara said:
Laura and Harley said:
Barbara, I'm proud of you - you took my advice about the gelcaps. :razz: :razz: :lol: :lol:

As I was typing that I wondered if it was you who had told me about gel caps! I decided to go ahead though just in case. I had also remembered Wendy talking about getting them on EBay, which is where I ended up getting mine, so I was all confused. My excuse is the blonde hair! :lol:

Yeah, I think it was both Wendy and me that mentioned them while you were first stating out with Thumper's pancreatitis drama. EBay's great for buying the flavored ones. I get mine along with almost all my other medical purchases on Amazon.com and use the DCIN Amazon affiliate shopping link so DCIN gets a donation for all my purchases. :idea:

Barbara said:
Lu, most vets probably don't even know about the gel caps!

You're right about that. Only my newest vet ever mentioned the gel caps and by then I'd already learned about them through Wendy and the folks on the Yahoo Pancreatitis & IBD lists.
 
Laura, do you know what ever happened to Wendy? Was she on one of the other groups with you?
 
Quick Bagheera update - my little guy is feeling better on his meds. He's only had one episode of coughing/gasping/wheezing - followed by upchucking all his dinner - since we started the meds. last Tuesday. He's feeling good. I'm enjoying each good day as much as I can because I know this is borrowed time.

Sadly, I heard that his mom, Amy, lost her father to cancer yesterday morning. My heart goes out to her and her family. She's not yet been able t come see Bagheera but I think we still have time for that when she's ready.

This is what I have to contend with when I want to get online in the evening... cat_pet_icon
 

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Well, he knows he's a lap kitty - and that's a lap top. What's the problem???? (very cute)

So sorry to hear about Amy's dad. I know that his health was why you were fostering Bagheera. An d now she won't even be able to have Bagheera back. (((Amy))). She is going through so much right now and I wish her the best. If you feel it is appropriate, give her my condolences.

I am very glad to hear that Bagheera is doing well and getting to be himself now. I hope you have many more days like today to share with him. I know all too well about borrowed time. :sad:
 
That is a greatupdate!
you are a wonderful momma!
I have to say that helooks so uncomfotable in that picture!
 
I'm sorry to hear about Amy's father.

I love the computer pic & glad you are getting some good days to enjoy him. :YMHUG:
 
So, sorry to hear about Bagheera. Will keep y'all in my prayers...Amy and her family, too. I lost my daddy to pancreatic cancer, three weeks after diagnosis. No matter how old you get, you still need your daddy...

btw - LOVE the picture of Harley on the computer. Won't be letting Hershey see that one! ;-)

Prayers and hugs all around -

Libby (and Hershey, too!)
 
Laura, I got my Natural Factors Wild Alaskan Salmon Oil today (ordered from Amazon because I get free shipping). Man, is that stuff stinky! Not sure that it enticed Jeddie to eat more, but Beau wanted to eat the gelcap I was using to put drops on Jeddie's food - silly boy!
 
Barbara said:
Laura, do you know what ever happened to Wendy? Was she on one of the other groups with you?

Sorry Barbara, I missed this one earlier. Wendy is still active on the Yahoo Feline IBD list and Panceatitis lists but she doesn't post as often as she used to. As I recall her work took over her time for posting in a major way. So far as I know, Shaikha is still kicking. I think she would have posted if something had happened.

Sheila, Barbara, Libby, I sent Amy a sympathy card and of course signed Bagheera's name too. I really feel for her situation as my father also died of pancreatic cancer 8 years ago. Life hasn't been the same since, even though you adjust and move on, things are just never the same.

Sheila & Beau & Jeddie said:
Laura, I got my Natural Factors Wild Alaskan Salmon Oil today (ordered from Amazon because I get free shipping). Man, is that stuff stinky! Not sure that it enticed Jeddie to eat more, but Beau wanted to eat the gelcap I was using to put drops on Jeddie's food - silly boy!

I guess now that you mention it it IS pretty stinky! I've never punctured a fish oil capsule before. Don't they all smell like that? :razz: At first Bagheera was really interested and ate his food fish oil and all. Now he's looking at me like I spiked his food with some evil substance.

Atta boy Beau, you know what makes you healthy!
 
Bagheera just loves bathing his "little brother" Hadley! Sometimes up to 3-4 times a day. Here's a snippet of a 15 minute long video of continuous Hadley-bathing. I just love how Baggy is cradling Hadley's head in his paws.

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Awww... I love stuff like that - especially when it's two males because, as we all know, you can't have two male cats in the same house because they will fight for territory :roll: At least, that was what I was always told.

ETA: above said totally facetiously :mrgreen:
 
Sheila & Beau & Jeddie said:
Awww... I love stuff like that - especially when it's two males because, as we all know, you can't have two male cats in the same house because they will fight for territory :roll: At least, that was what I was always told.

Don't tell that to my house-full! The males are definitely in the majority! I think you're safe as long as they're all neutered. The only time I had any problem is when there was an unaltered female in the house (males marking), but that's been addressed and all is right with the world.
 
Sheila & Beau & Jeddie said:
Awww... I love stuff like that - especially when it's two males because, as we all know, you can't have two male cats in the same house because they will fight for territory :roll: At least, that was what I was always told.

ETA: above said totally facetiously :mrgreen:

:roll: Yeah, I was told that too when I adopted Harley - "He gets along with females but not with males." True, at first. No matter what gender, he needs to be the dominant male in the house, establish his authority and then he's the sweetest boy in the world. The two best friend kitties I ever saw were two brother littermates when I was growing up - Mimi and Angel (my Mom named them). Angel was the tough hunter-dude and Mimi was the lounge lizard who slept in top of the TV. If only I had photos of all the grooming, loving and snuggling those two boys did.

Harley, Hadley & Bagheera get along very well. they all climb into bed with me at night or try to pile onto the couch with me when I'm reading. Need a bigger couch!
 
Grayson & Lu said:
The only time I had any problem is when there was an unaltered female in the house (males marking), but that's been addressed and all is right with the world.

:shock: Phew! Glad you got that situation taken care of. Were even the neutered males marking?
 
Just a couple that had spent more time outside "on the street". The "first five" as I refer to them, all brothers of the same litter (mama hit by a car) were rescued from a vacant house and bottle fed from about 2 weeks old. They are still the most loving/interactive in the entire household - both within their group, and with me!

...then there's Bo the "attack guard cat" that secures the front porch during the day and comes in at night... When he saunters through the front door, he head bonks anyone nearby! He's never met a stranger.... except John that took him to be neutered - in a TRAP, no less!!! ;-) He started out more feral than anyone in the household. 3 months of feeding on my porch - one month feeding in the trap before I set it... That night, within 5 minutes, one REALLY angry boy!!! But apparently regular food, someone that drips antibiotic on his wounds from 3 feet away while he's munching down, and someone who doted on him after that mean stray dog chased him up a tree (fortunately without any major puncture wounds).. must've made me seem not too bad, and eventually, even trustworthy! ...as long as the kibble keeps coming, that is! :lol:
 
A quickie update - I'm trying to get Bagheera's owner to come see him to say goodbye. We've completed a second round of antibiotics, are upping the Piroxicam back to 1mg every day as he seemed to do better on that than the every other day dosing, and have added in buprenex for pain. My vet doesn't think that the bupe will depress his breathing.

He has a few "good" days and by good I mean eating, coming for treats and pokies, talking and not hovering over the water bowl or the bathroom sink a.k.a. swimming pool. His bad days include barely eating, lethargy, sitting on the bathroom sink alternately starting at and drinking from his swimming pool, and just acting like he's sick. He also seems to have difficulty breathing. While it's not open mouthed panting, it's wheezing.

We are not going to make 3 months. He doesn't seem to have that will to hang on. And I just don't have the heart to ask it of him.
 
Oh Laura, you are the kindest angel to take such good care of Bagheera like this. Hugs and strength to you both. :YMHUG:
 
Laura, I know how hard it is to keep lines of communication open with former owners. I hope that when she does come to say her goodbyes that it will be one of Bagheera's good days. I know about those good and bad days too. You can see it in their eyes on bad days - they just don't want to keep going. But then the next day is good and you get hopeful again. So hard - the ups and downs on a day to day basis. Breathing difficulties are so bad.

You have to take it one day at a time though. Give him a pat from me.

(((hugs)))
 
Thank you everyone for your kinds words and support! I hope his mom is coming by tomorrow night. We'll see how that goes. Fortunately Bagheera is having some good days right now but I'm sure the buprenex is helping. :-D This morning he was actually interested in playing with the feather toy for a few minutes. That is, playing on his back and kicking, he can only run a few steps and then sits down.

I had an emergency consultation with Dawn Allen on Monday and she told me Bagheera likes me very much but he does not feel that my house is "home," yet he feels more at home with me than he has anyplace else. He told her it hurts to breath in, he's depressed and he aches all over. He also mentioned that he had pain at the base of his tongue? I'm not sure of what that could be, but the thought of a salivary gland or the beginnings of an oral tumor crossed my mind. I was sad to hear he didn't feel at home but I understand how he feels, especially because he's so very sick and he went from being an only cat to one of 5. I asked her to ask him how he felt about leaving his body and he told her he didn't feel that he's in immediate need of release, but also she didn't get the sense that he wanted to hold on to his life until the bitter end the way some cats do. We talked about it and because of the "whole cat picture" it would be the kindest thing to let him cross sooner rather than later. I think deep down I've known this for a little while but just didn't want to face it. But now after talking with him and Dawn Allen, I have to face it and can't live in denial anymore. :sad:
 
Laura, I don't really have anything to say that will make you feel better, but wanted to let you know I'm thinking of you & Bagheera a lot. :YMHUG:
 
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