Baco 5/31 AMPS no shot / PMPS 162 (dose?)

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Just made a new thread for today.
Baco skipped her AM dose today because she had a falling #.
First she was at 173 and because I was unsure what or if I should give her, I tested 20 minutes later to be sure if she was falling or rising.
Well she was falling, to 164, so I decided not to give her a shot this cycle.
Hopefully when I get home today she will surprise me with some nice blue #. Wouldn't that be great?
I will post later today on this thread what her # are when I come home and maybe will need some dosing advice. :joyful:
 
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Good choice! I saw that Robin had replied on your earlier thread and she was absolutely right (as always!). Shooting into a falling number is never good. We don't know why the number is falling, but in this case, it probably means Mr. P is here. A much safer choice is skipping. :)
 
Baco is doing so, so well & getting closer & closer to going OTJ ... I am glad you skipped the dose this cycle, and here's a good example of why this was a smart move: My Bat-Bat (on Lantus now) dropped to 44 yesterday @ +3 on just 0.05 unit dose. (I am VERY careful about her dosing, so know darned well that it was not like I gave her 0.10U by mistake; I have been doing this for quite some time now.) That 44 BG resulted in my having to steer her with food twice over the course of the next two hours to get her BG # back up to a safer level and keep it there.

And I am able to be home with my cat ALL the time; you, on the other hand, must leave for work during the week on her day cycles. Yes, there are timed feeders, but ... what if your cat drops too low on a single drop of insulin (like Bat-Bat just illustrated can happen) - can you really depend on your cat to "steer" herself? And what if this sudden drop to a low BG #happens before the timed feeder pops open at the preset hour?

The fact is, Ruby, that there even the timed feeder is not going to keep your kitty 100% safe when you are not around to monitor. While it's better than nothing, it's not ever going to be a 100% guarantee. So when you are not feeling comfortable about giving even a droplet of insulin when you can't be around to monitor, I think that's a very prudent decision. So ... good for you!!!;)

P.S. That drop yesterday to 44 on a 0.05 dose resulted in a mini-bounce for Bat-Bat last night @ PMPS. :banghead: So there's that ...:rolleyes:
 
Thanks Robin for explaining that! :bighug:

Baco's +10 is 162. I want to give her dose between now and 30 minutes...
What should I try? I can monitor her tonight especially because it's so early to give her shot now! so I can test her until +7 if I give her her shot now..
any suggestions? or should I not give something?
 
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any suggestions? or should I not give something?
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If in the next 30 minutes she is up near where she was last night @ PMPS-time, I think you could go with the dose you did last night 0.25. If she is a little lower that that, you could try 0.20 since you ARE around to monitor & steer if needed.
 
Just so you know ... over time, on ProZinc (I was around to monitor, of course) I did eventually lower Bat-Bat's shot limit to 150 AFTER she was on tiny doses of ProZinc. But again, you are wise to move carefully - as you are doing now - in making these changes, and in making sure you are around to monitor whenever you choose to shoot at a lower number than before.:)
 
Well that's the reason why I want to give her a shot tonight because i'm around.
I will test her now. brb!
 
Omg, she got scared really bad by the mail men, knocking on my door, and her BG is now 331 what should I do???
 
Should I wait an hour? to give her time to get her grip back? because I find it hard to dose now due to the scare she just had.... it's not a 'real' BG test I find?!
 
I retested it twice. first it was 340 and just now it was 331.
Should I give her her shot then now? or retest in 30 minutes?
 
I think you can give her the shot now; she was already at 162 at +10, so she should be fine. (Darned mailman!:()
 
yes I will!

YEAH STUPID MAILMAN! :mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad:

will retest her now and what should I do? put that # up as PMPS? or stick with 162?
 
Make a notation in the remarks about that sudden BG spike. I'd probably go with the 162, because I really think that fast jump in her # HAD to be because she got spooked by the mail guy!:banghead:
 
I think so too. I can't imagine that she would spike in less than 30 minutes from nothing like that right?
I just gave her 0.25. Hope she will drop now, because I don't like these pink numbers!
 
And if it's any consolation, Ruby ... Bat-Bat does that same kind of thing: Can spike a REALLY high # when something freaks her out or makes her mad. Makes life interesting, that's for sure!:rolleyes::banghead::facepalm::p
 
hahahaha well it does makes it interesting.. it's strange that BG can go up that quick.. is this also with a 'non diabetic' cat that they can spike up to 340 in no time?
 
Well, at least Baco is not a dog, so she can't scare your mailman half to death!:nailbiting: When I had my Doberman, she was fine with the mailman, but for some oddball reason, she did NOT like the brown uniforms of the UPS courier. I had these huge front windows at my house, and whenever the UPS person would appear, she'd hit the window & bark furiously. I always used to say that it was a good thing the the UPS uniform pants were BROWN, because I'm sure there were times when a new UPS courier (one who was not familiar with my Doberman's reaction) needed a panty change after that!!!:woot:
 
hahaha no she's not a dog no. What's up with the brown uniforms.... that a little racist off your dog! hahahahaahaha:p just kidding.

Well I hope she comes down.. I put 162 at pmps with a note that she spiked high.. so we will see..
 
pmps 377 (thanks too the mailman :banghead::facepalm:)
+1 335
+2 299
+3 279

hoping to see a bigger drop at around +4.. that's normally were she drops the most..

stupid mailman.. i'm going to put in a complaint at that company for scaring Baco!!:mad:
 
Don't worry, Ruby - she'll start coming down again ... just remember how well she did at this dose just the night before!;)
 
Just now saw Baco's lovely #s on the SS - I am SO happy she came back down to surf those cool:cool: blues (I had a good feeling that she would do that for you;)). GO, BACO!!!:joyful: (Tell that mailman to STOP:stop: ringing your doorbell at Baco's pre-shot time.:p)
 
btw, if Baco is around these # tonight, I can't monitor for like 2,5-3 hours. so I don't know if I should give a shot to her then.
But we will talk about it later.
I'm going to visit my BF after dinner for 1 hour, but I have to drive 40 minutes to get to him and 40 minutes to go home... So that's why I can't really monitor Baco tonight..
 
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I'm going to visit my BF after dinner for 1 hour, but I have to drive 40 minutes to get to him and 40 minutes to go home... So that's why I can't really monitor Baco tonight..
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Hey, that's ok ... life happens. (You still need to have one, even though Baco is diabetic.;))
Let's see how this daytime cycle goes, and then you can decide later tonight whether she should have some sort of dose ... (She's doing beautifully!)
 
But i've got a question. The numbers around 144, are they considered to be like a non diabetic cat? Because she is sround hem most off the time, and sometimes even without a shot. And she holds them steady (mr. P does I guess) but what if in the nedt couple off days, she doesn't need shots with these numbers... Is that considered healty and going into a remission?
 
We consider normal levels to be 40-120 without insulin. The hope is that Ms. P will drive her numbers lower so she reaches that remission place. Often, as the pancreas decides to kick in, you need to give smaller doses every few cycles like to kick start things. The goal is to hit 14 days in those normal numbers and the cat is considered OTJ. Most cats don't suddenly hit that. They kind of sputter like Baco is right now, but hopefully she will reach that level soon.
 
Looking good Baco! Ms. P is really talking.

Yes, Ruby, you need to have a life while taking care of Baco. It is so important to do that and a lesson that was hard for me to learn in the beginning. This dance is a marathon not a sprint and it is important for the care giver to take care of herself too. I hope that the BF gives you a nice massage tonight to ease all the stress away. ;)
 
Thanks for the information.

Well, That's the problem, I don't only have a sick 'baby' Baco but my BF is also sick.. has been dealing with a depression since Baco was diagnosed.. So I got 2 sick loves in my life right now.
It's hard too juggle everything at once..
 
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Thanks for the information.

Well, That's the problem, I don't only have a sick 'baby' Baco but my BF is also sick.. has been dealing with a depression since Baco was diagnosed.. So I got 2 sick loves in my life right now.
It's hard too juggle everything at once..
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Is boyfriend feeling left out with all your attention to Baco?
 
Well he finds it hard that 'we' don't have the freedom anymore off going somewhere without watching the time..
I don't see him that much since he's sick (he's living at his parents and not coming over to my place because he needs to work on himself) but when we do see eachother (2 times a week) we always need to keep track off the time and that is hard on him. And that makes it also hard on me. Because like now, I normally (when Baco wasn't sick) would go straight from work to him. But now I have to go home, monitor Baco, check if she needs a shot, give food.. and then I can go to him. And if Baco is low but not too low to shoot, I will not leave her because i'm too scared that she gets a hypo.. so it's a really hard situation.
 
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Well he finds it hard that 'we' don't have the freedom anymore off going somewhere without watching the time..
I don't see him that much since he's sick (he's living at his parents and not coming over to my place because he needs to work on himself) but when we do see eachother (2 times a week) we always need to keep track off the time and that is hard on him. And that makes it also hard on me. Because like now, I normally (when Baco wasn't sick) would go straight from work to him. But now I have to go home, monitor Baco, check if she needs a shot, give food.. and then I can go to him. And if Baco is low but not too low to shoot, I will not leave her because i'm too scared that she gets a hypo.. so it's a really hard situation.
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It is a very hard situation and I am sorry that you have two concerns right now. It's hard enough with just dealing with a diabetic cat. Sending you hugs. :bighug::bighug::bighug::bighug:
 
Thank Bobbie:bighug:
I will manage both situations eventually.. Even though it's hard but they are my two loves so I need to make time for them both.. But he's human and needs to understand that Baco can't monitor and shoot herself.. so that's something (when he's out off his depression) will see, but now he is not seeing that, he just wants me to be around him a lot off the time although i work fulltime and have a diabetic cat.. I visit him as much as I can but I also have to think about myself because otherwise I will get sick and depressed off this situation. I need rest and sleep and I can't get it because of Baco and my BF. I sleep 4 to 5 hours a night for a long period of time so that makes it really hard to think clearly sometimes. I will go back tonight after my visit (not late) and will go to sleep really early.
Hope Baco doesn't need a dose tonight so I don't have to worry about her while being gone.
 
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