? Baby having a bad trip- bupe dosage?

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Becky & Baby Girl GA

Becky & Baby Girl GA

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Found out this am that Baby has pancreatitis. The dr gave me oral bupe .25 ml. - she’s just walking around meowing nonstop. She also gave the appetite stimulate mitazapine... she is eatting now but driving me nuts! I called the vet & she said only 1/2 tonight... did she give too much? Any answers for what to do? I thought she’d go to sleep but nooooo!
 
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I haven't had this experience, but a nickname for mirtazapine is "meowzapine" because it has that effect on some cats. So that might be part of what is going on.

There is also a small chance that the bupe and the mirtz are too much together (they're in similar "families" of drugs). I'm not good with figuring out proper dosages so I'll leave any detailed musings about the 2.5ml dose to others who are. If she's got pancreatitis, poor girl, she needs those pain meds, but you may have to back off on them until the mirtz wears off.
 
Yes - love you answer peeps! Ok well that must be it although the vet said it’s probably the bupe! The mirtazapine is every 3 days??? She won’t stop... when will this wear off?!? Thank you guys... as long as she’s ok - that’s what matters most!! She just wants outside but I feel I need to watch her.
 
Mirtazapine is an atypical antidepressant. It calms down vomiting & diahpoo but stimulates appetite. Not related to a pain med. But both together - whew!
 
The mirtz dose is 1/4 tablet every 3 days. 15 mg
The bupe is .25 every 12 hours. Baby weighs 9 lbs & thank you guys! She’s had bupe after her eye removal, it just made her sleepy back then... of course if it too much I’ve heard it can affect them the opposite. If I try to hold her or try to get her to relax, she is growling at me!
 
She’s having a bad reaction to the mirtz sounds like. She has eaten like back to normal (finally) for the first time in 5 days. Should I just not give or lower the dosages of both! I hope the mirtz gets out of her system soon! She can’t be still.
 
She’s ok if I let her outside, I’ve been out here practically all day watching her. Otherwise she is at the door, non stop meowing! It’s making me nuts! But it doesn’t take much for that! Lol
I can tell she’s very agitated. Now I worry my vet has not dosed her right... I’ve had so many vets that have hurt rather than helped my animals, it scares me. I have little trust in most.
 
Ok thank you Chris- yes, I can’t give her this again! I just hope the bupe will relieve her enough to have some appetite! I’ll write this down...
 
I've had the same thing happen with mirtz -- it was so dramatic and the cat seemed so distressed that I didn't use it in her again.

I second Chris' recommendation for cyproheptadine. I first used it over 20 years ago and am really surprised more vets don't prescribe it.
 
Yes, pancreatitis is a frustrating one-- no cure or fix, just treating symptoms. But, they feel soooooo much better with the pain meds, and that's something.

Glad to hear she's a bit better today, and still eating!
 
I have read that the old recommended dosage of mirtazipine was higher than the current recommended dosage, and some vets still recommend the higher dose.

TOO high. Imagine being stoned with MAJOR munchies but unable to eat, or eat enough to satisfy, and not knowing why. And being a cat.

Mirt at much higher doses also often causes hunger and weight gain in humans. Otherwise, it's a good anti-depressant as far as I know.

Then bupe, an opioid. I found with Dweezy, after an injected version he was high, SO happy and affectionate, he'd trot to you whenever you moved. Full to the brim with love.

But oral bupe was a bit different. A much lesser dose and more subtle, and he didn't seem relaxed or happy, but just a little more sensitive and nervy.
 
Oh my @Larry and Kitties - thank you soooo much. I wish I knew good ways to inform the vet of this... most wont take any info seriously. Js -she should have known this! Thank you!
@Bellasmom -thank you sweetheart... I hope this stuff goes away quick! My poor little girl!
 
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She’s eating but I can tell things aren’t ok. She’s had lose stool this whole time & that continues. The vet said we could do a GI panel if we want to know more?!? $200...giving her the bupe just in case. Thanks for checking on her!
 
Hopefully the bupe will do it-- pancreatitis is very painful, and flares can last a while.

Have you tested her B12? If that's low, B12 shots can sometimes help with pancreatitis and IBD-type aspects (cause/effect unclear to me, but whatever). I'd have to dig out paperwork on cost, but it's gotta be cheaper than doing a full GI panel (not sure what else that involves).
 
Having a bad trip
Like this one time at the lake...
and someone had Orange Barrel
and then this guy who had a boat said get in...
and we did.:eek:
Noah has been on BUPE forever, I had to quadruple Nigel's BUPE at the end. If you gave BGK too much she would not be meowing.
Or the time I broke my wrist into a pretzel and the admitting nurse almost fainted. I think they gave me more-fine.:rolleyes:
 
@Larry and Kitties
I thought so too... I’m bad with conversion & she figured it to match my needles. I erred on the side of caution & went for 30 which is 1 u/100 syringe full. Doesn’t say concentration, just .5 ml on her syringes that I didn’t take. I guess I should have but she did the conversion. Her syringes were 29 gauge is why. I do 31 on Baby...thanks again- you’re so knowledgeable on this stuff!
 
Hmmm, yes. I do 0.25ml (which I think is equivalent to 25U on a U100 syringe; I use different syringes for the B12) once a week.

Pretty sure B12 is one of those things you have to really work hard to overdose, but that does seem like a lot. Maybe give your vet a call to double-check it wasn't supposed to be weekly?
 
Take away food & water for a while.. give cerenia... if the poo continues come a get an anti-diahrea med. From now on give cerenia first thing in morning. .... ok - she was drinking, gulping water non stop. Lighting candles in the house... phewie
 
Honestly about the same... diarrhea every time she eats... don’t know what else to do. I just quit giving her meds to see if that’s doing it or making it worse? Feeling defeated...
 
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Honestly about the same... diarrhea every time she eats... don’t know what else to do. I just quit giving her meds to see if that’s doing it or making it worse? Feeling defeated...
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I am so sorry Becky, maybe doc can give something for diarrhea or I just started Sammie on probiotic yogurt about 1 to 2 tablespoons a day, this am was the first time he didn’t have the runs in a while, he didn’t poop a lot just runny when he did, I’ve attached a link if u want to read

http://www.thepawsitter.com/how-to-treat-diarrhea-in-cats-at-home/
They have sugar free yogurt
Just a thought
 
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I am so sorry Becky, maybe doc can give something for diarrhea or I just started Sammie on probiotic yogurt about 1 to 2 tablespoons a day, this am was the first time he didn’t have the runs in a while, he didn’t poop a lot just runny when he did, I’ve attached a link if u want to read

http://www.thepawsitter.com/how-to-treat-diarrhea-in-cats-at-home/
They have sugar free yogurt
Just a thought
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It’s dannon activia probiotic yogurt, says billions of live and active probiotics, from what I read it gets rid of the bad bacteria
 
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