April; my remission furkid -up date a tearful thank you.

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April has been in remission for almost two years now, though I still try to check he when I can. Of late she had been making multiple trips to the litter box, making little tiny tinkles off and on. I think she might have a UTI, or her kidneys are possibly acting up. Or her FDB might be sneaking back. As I type this she keeps going back and forth. But I have a serious problem.

I do not know who to ask for help as it was for Buddy; the board saw issues about his sores (which is still on going) and made up a fund for him. But I have have no finances at my use at all... Who do I need to ask for help this time around for my girl, I am somewhat hesitant for a little while to ask as such but under the circumstances I am now desperate.

I may have to take her in the morning; but if warrants I can take her in tonight at the 24/7 place. But it will not be cheap. All other vet centers are closed on the weekends. All this time I have been worried about Buddy needing sudden care and it's April who now has the spotlight of concern.

Could I maybe tap into Buddy's fund raiser still in reverse for April?

Mike
 
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Mike,
I have no idea about the money side of your question. I haven't been around long and don't know Buddy's story.
I was going to say that if it is multiple trips to the box, but small amounts, then I'd guess UTI rather than her diabetes coming back. If she's not peeing a lot, then it sounds like she's either having trouble peeing or keeps feeling like she needs to, which sounds like UTI to me.
Keep an eye on her when she visits the box, and if she sits in there for a long time with no results, she might have some sort of blockage, especially if she starts crying. I had an older female civvie years back who acted like that and she had bladder problems which required surgery (I seem to recall the vet saying something about crystals) where they bisected her bladder, scraped it out and sewed it back together. It worked, because she lived a half dozen more years. She was prone to UTIs and had a hard time peeing prior to the surgery.
I'm hoping your not looking at anything more serious than a UTI with April.

Carl in SC
 
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She is not making a sound, though as some know cats are good about not complaining even when in pain. She has been on Flaygl for IBD for almost three months.

But she is going back and forth consistently now since I have been home.
 
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Does her abdomen look larger than normal? I know my vet at the time showed us where to gently squeeze to see if her bladder felt over-filled. But given that she's being treated for IBD, and that her bladder might be swollen or enlarged, I wouldn't want to advise you to start squeezing anything. Can you tell if she's tender on the underside? Is there anyway you can take her temperature to see if she's running a fever?

Carl
 
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Mike:

Gracie had chronic interstitial cystitis and about twice a month went through what April is doing. While typically cats do not actually have bladder infections, per se, it could be crystals although crystals affect female cats less than males. In most cases, it is idiopathic and if you do nothing, it will clear itself up. HOWEVER, there is always that chance (especially in FD because of the sugar) that there is bacteria or crystals and so a UA needs to be done just to be sure. The unfortunate part is that vets automatically put the kitty on ABs without waiting for the urine to come back and often times it is not necessary. Gracie never had bacteria or crystals in her urine.

Have you tested her to see what her BG is if you are worried she might come out of remission?

Bottom line is it is best to have a urine sample done and the best way to ensure that you identify any bacteria is from cystocentesis and then a culture and sensitivity to determine the best AB if there is bacteria.

While I am on the LLEF committee, I can't tell you what the position would be. I'll bring it to the other committee members; however, most are on the east coast and so it is unlikely to get a response until tomorrow. I'll let them know, though.
 
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She does not seem to react to my touches (which confirms her being sick)....she is not that much of a tactile cat in regards to having her tummy and so on checked. She is not interested in eating, another sign. Nothing to check temp with I fear. My question is this, do I get up every now and then till morning to take her in. Or take her in now 2am here.

I was able to feel as I can, it's hard to tell. I have no experience in this area..
 
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Mike,
Has she eaten earlier today? My feeling is that she will be okay until morning, but I am not there and you know her the best. If, as Marjorie said, this is something that could clear up on its own, then a late-night trip to the ER vet is probably not needed. If she has eaten at some time during the day today, and she does not show signs that she is in pain, I think that she will be okay overnight. If you get up in the morning and she has not improved, and still will not eat, then I would say that you need to at least call the clinic in the morning and see what they recommend as far as bringing her in for a checkup.

Carl
 
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I just called them and have an appointment at 9:30 am, unless of course she starts to go into some kind of serious problems. It's a work in they said - but they are the only game in town and have her records.

I am obviously not going to get any sleep tonight with this, but we will try. I just hope FDB fund can be allocated a little bit from Buddy's. If she is still the same come morning, oh wait it is morning. :YMSIGH:

Thanks, I hope she will be alright till then, as for dad that is another thing. @-)

I am in hopes this will work out. Thanks to all that was able to respond so late this evening (morning). It is now 3am and 8am will be here in no time. If she is not well by the time I am up then she is going in, the bill will have to be figured out later. As long as they will let me take her home.

Thank you...
 
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How is she doing this morning, Mike? Better, I hope.. all fingers crossed.
 
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She has eaten, seems rather loving and lively this morning. No sudden trips to the litter box, I may just wait and see and ask them to push back the appointment and save her the grif of the long trip.

I am hoping this is clearing on it's own. Am I wise at waiting, or should we go?
 
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That sounds like a good plan, to see if you can push back the appointment.
I'm so glad she is eating and lovely dovey, and her LB symptoms seemed to have disappeared.

My cat J.D. will have these episodes where he desperately needs to use the box and jumps back and forth from one to the other to the other and only pees about a drop when he goes. He's had maybe 5 episodes in 2 years. But, they usually only last about 30 minutes. Twice it happened on a Sunday, and twice I took him to the ER, just to have him pee all over the exam table just fine, each time. They did tests and C&S and never have found anything. I just wait them out, now.

I hope April is fine all day. (((hugs to you for being so caring))).
 
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Hi Mike. I run DCIN--Diabetic Cats in Need. Sorry but there is no money left in Buddy's fund.

Have you heard from the LLEF?

I don't have your phone number. I will PM you mine, and let's see what we can do about April.
 
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Venita and Ennis93 said:
Hi Mike. I run DCIN--Diabetic Cats in Need. Sorry but there is no money left in Buddy's fund.

- sorry I was thinking about LLEF, not DCIN... see I am soo foged up!
:shock:

Have you heard from the LLEF?

-Nothing yet.

I don't have your phone number. I will PM you mine, and let's see what we can do about April.
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-I did as well, but give me a while before I or you call, we ares till foggy headed. I have had about four hours sleep.
 
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Dyana said:
That sounds like a good plan, to see if you can push back the appointment.
I'm so glad she is eating and lovely dovey, and her LB symptoms seemed to have disappeared.

My cat J.D. will have these episodes where he desperately needs to use the box and jumps back and forth from one to the other to the other and only pees about a drop when he goes. He's had maybe 5 episodes in 2 years. But, they usually only last about 30 minutes. Twice it happened on a Sunday, and twice I took him to the ER, just to have him pee all over the exam table just fine, each time. They did tests and C&S and never have found anything. I just wait them out, now.

I hope April is fine all day. (((hugs to you for being so caring))).
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This sounds like about her case thought she did this for about a hour or so. This morning she seems rather happy, I placed in around the litter boxes and she just looked at me like "Huh, why am I being brought here!?" Last night (morning I would walk by them and she would hit them about three times with little drops.

At the movement she is staring at me wanting more food an attention I guess. I called VHA and told them to push it back till later. We are thinking about going back to bed for about an hour or so.

Right now Buddy's BG's are on the rise; Good Lord what is it with the gang all of a sudden!?
 
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Mike .....when it rains, it pours.

With something like idiopathic interstitial cystitis, stress alone can bring it on. And we don't always know the source of the stress. That's why it is often said about cats exhibiting April's behavior "give them ABs for 7 days and it will go away or don't and it will go away". I have to admit that is a long time for a kitty to be uncomfortable. I never waited with Gracie...instead, we gave her Rescue Remedy for animals (no alcohol). Eventually what we found out with her was that she had high levels of aluminum in her system (long story) and we worked with a vet to detox her. She seems to be doing very well and her last episode was May, 2010 anti jinx.

Please keep us informed.....hope you got some rest and hope April is much better when you wake up.
 
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Hi, Thanks. We PM'd you.

She seems better, but still making little spots when she goes, no flows as yet.
 
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OK, we are home. Dad is about to pass out, April is eating and getting a drink of water. The others are just hanging out like nothings going on, eh.. cats. :smile:

April has a serious UTI; she is on ziniquin every day till gone, we have some forta-flora as well for her.

She is down to 6.6 pounds from 8.3! :? It might be the IBD not allowing her to metabolize the nutrients.

Her kidney values are making a red flag, they are border line in readings for FKD, they recommend her BUN/CREA get checked in about a month and perhaps go to a kidney friendly food. (Would this jeopardize her FDB in remission?)

To all that helped; Marjorie, Venita and all else thank you! In all that is holy and good may you all and your furkids be safe and well as possible.
 
Mike, I hope that April starts to feel better soon on the antibiotics.

A UTI can also cause the kidney values to go up, so maybe they will come down with the treatment.
 
Mike: so glad to hear you got her in and she is on ABs. I'm assuming that means she has bacteria in her urine? Glad you got the fortiflora.

Linda is right on the kidney values. Were they elevated today? Also....the UTI could possibly be an indication of kidney infection which can increase the BUN/creat.

I've got two kitties in CKD....if you need any info, please PM me; I'm glad to help with the numbers, etc.

Thanks for your kind words....besides Venita and me, there was a whole slew of people in the background working just as hard...Randi, Linda, Dyana....it takes a team.
 
Thanks for your kind words....besides Venita and me, there was a whole slew of people in the background working just as hard...Randi, Linda, Dyana....it takes a team.
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Then to you all thank you, and April says thank you as well.
 
Mike,
I think you give the FortiFlora a couple hours after you give the abs. It is my understanding that the abs kill all the bacteria, and you wait awhile, and then give the FortiFlora to put the good bacteria back in. My cats LOVE FortiFlora and I often use it as an appetite stimulant, as well. I hope April is feeling her healthy self again real soon :smile:
 
Mike,
Great news. I mean, she's got all kinds of things going on, but at least now you know why, and you're on the way towards making her feel better. Keep us posted!
Is Buddy okay too?
Carl in SC
 
She seems to really like the Flora, I had to guard her while she ate her food with it. My others wanted to get at it too, wow.

So far so good; I am still watching her like a nervous mother hen though. Every little epp, peep and meer I go "Huh, what was that!". :shock:

Down the road we will have to decide on a diet change, and will it effect her remission and kick start her FDB? Dear Lord I hope not; she has so much going on with her. She is 13 years old we believe. Class 3 murmur, kidneys are showing slight elevational changes that may require some things to be done. IBD and UTI, and she still head butts me like she is a year old.

Buddy's BG are stubborn during this time; not sure if its a food spike while at work or the liven kicks in and says whoa there. His sores seem to be on the mend, and please to those of the funding please keep that still on the side burner. We may have to take him in because about this time those things go bad and flare up. And every October he has had an asthma attack really bad with fluid in his lungs. But this approaching time he is on Flovent every 12 hours, so maybe this time we will avoid an emergency.

Thanks to all of you, very, very much!

Mike
 
Hi Mike. I am glad that April was able to see the vet and get what she needs for her UTI. May she feel much much better soon!!
 
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