Anyone else notice boiled chicken making BGs raise?

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MommaOfMuse

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Split dosing was working really really well for Ms. Musette until I ran out of the baked turkey that I was feeding her for treats to boiled chicken, it is the only thing that has changed in her diet as she herself decided that she would like served only Friskies Turkey & Giblets or Poultry Platter...please and thank you servant. While on the baked turkey she was consistantly having long runs of blues and greens, almost at exact time the turkey ran out and I switched to boiled chicken we are back in the yellows and pinks again.

Anyone else finding that chicken is spiking their sugarcat's bloodsugar? And if so any thoughts on why? Guess in our case I'll be headed to the store tomorrow, buying a turkey and tossing it in the oven for Her Meowjesty's testing treats.

Mel, Maxwell, Musette & The Fur Gang
 
Yes, I definitely have found that for Duncan it was almost as bad as the dry food. Cat food with chicken seems to be fine though. Maybe it has something to do with the low water content?? He does great (low even) on the FF Appetizers in chicken. Which is chicken shredded in a very light sauce. Very LC. No spikes with that.
 
Glad I'm not crazy...lol Musette does fine on chicken cat food, as well as the FF Appetizers, so it makes me wonder what is in the regular chicken that is causing her to shoot-up, I'm wondering if they are injecting something like chicken broth to make the chicken 'plumper' that is causing the carb level to spike, because I know she was fine on the raw chicken that I gave her awhile back, but that came from a friend's farm and she raises 'organic' chickens since her daughter is allergic to a lot of the antibotics they add to commercial chicken's feed.

But yeah I would have sworn she got in the drooler's food the way she has spiked up these last couple days. :o

Mel, Maxwell, Musette & The Fur Gang
 
Removed the chicken treats right before her first pm dose...from 321 @ pmps#1 to 180 @ +4...it's got to be the chicken, now I just wish I knew why? It should be zero carbs, but I did just notice that it has a pretty high sodium content listed on the nutrientional breakdown on the bag so that makes me suspect that it contains something other than just plain raw chicken.

Mel, Maxwell, Musette & The Fur Gang
 
Yes,
I had the same problem with Tıfıl, you can see it written on my ss.Boiled chicken really effects the bg, at least with my cat :)
 
Hmmm..interesting, glad to know Musette isn't the only odd-ball out there and that I'm not imagining things. Of course right now I can't tell if it is the boiled chicken that I have been using for treats lately or stress in her case. But it will be interesting to watch over the next couple of days since I stopped the treats for now, and will see how the next few days play out, if it is stress from DH being away on business then she should still run up there until the weekend and drop again on the weekend when he gets home and the family routine returns to normal for a few days.

I do know right now with DH away our routine has been greatly altered, as I don't have the time to spend with her in the evenings that I normally do because I have the whole household to run, I'm staying up later at night so she isn't going to bed like normal, and our one meezer has been singing at the top of is lungs while looking for his daddy, which I know is stressing me out, and giving me a headache so I can only imagine what it is doing to her. As well as I have been taking this opportunity without the hubby underfoot to get a lot of the holiday cleaning done, so there has been more moving of furniture, vacuuming etc going on as well.

Mel, Maxwell, Musette & The Fur Gang
 
I, too, have noticed that Blackie's PS #s are much higher, and I always suspected the chicken. I steam my chicken, though. I've removed 0.10 oz. of steamed chicken from her snacks the other day, and noticed that her PS #s are coming down slightly. I don't want to increase her insulin because of the fact that she already gets those :mrgreen: s, and I don't want to be giving her HC food to bring her back up. I may still remove another 0.10 oz. of steamed chicken from her snacks, but that'll be it, I think. I'd like to have her have SOMEthing for a snack. :lol:

But, yeah, I have noticed the same thing, too.
 
I have had a few others mention that boiled chicken has caused raised BG, but I don't have the problem with Ollie or Shadoe, not sure why. I give them only steamed or raw chicken breast meat.

Are you talking about white meat or dark meat, and what about turkey? Maybe it would be better?
 
try removing the chicken for a whole week, then go back to the old feedings, and compare the numbers after another week.
 
Both times it has been whole chickens and turkeys so it has been a mix of both light and dark meat in Musette's case. She was fine on the turkey but seemed to spike on the chicken, both boiled and raw. So right now chicken is out altogether and tomorrow when we go out grocery shopping I will grab another turkey (need to make more treats and dog food toppings anyhow) and go back to the turkey. I would rather deal with turkeys anyhow, more meat, less I have to cook to feed the critters...lol

But I do plan to compare her numbers. It may just be one of those ECID kind of thing, some spike on it, some don't. I know Maxwell never has had a problem spiking on chicken.

Mel, Maxwell, Musette & The Fur Gang
 
while its obvious that something is going on, and I'm not a nutritional expert, this makes no sense as chicken is pure protein. Yes, protein can be converted to glucose I think but...???

one of the first people to note the benefits of a high protein diet was Gia, who noticed that bgs dropped after feeding her cat turkey at thanksgiving. I believe she conferred with a wel lknown human nutritional expert on the whole thing...
 
Doesn't make any sense to me either unless she has a slight allergy to chicken. Or like her human she can't tolerate something that chickens are fed. I can eat beef just fine as long as it is organic, but give me a steak from just a run of the mill feed lot cow and I will be heaving in about 30 minutes. It isn't the beef that I'm allergic to it is the antibotics they feed the cows. So perhaps that is what Musette is reacting to in the chicken, not so much the chicken itself as something that has either been fed to chicken or added to the meat in processing.

She does just fine on chicken cat food, as well as Fancy Feast chicken appetizers, and she loves turkey so unless I can figure out what makes her spike on that particular chickens, I think I will just stick with cooked turkey.

Mel, Maxwell, Musette & The Fur Gang
 
Sorry to jump in..
but shakepeare gets boiled chicken 2 times a day to help with the b12 pills I give him
Does not raise BG at all
I only but the white chicken breast though...could that be it?
 
"Proteins in general and the amino acid arginine in particular trigger insulin release from the pancreas. " ETA, Turkey contains arginine. Quoted from the link posted below.

Here is a great discussion on the subject...scroll down to where Janet (Binky) and Jean (Muffin) discuss this possibility:

http://www.felinediabetes.com/phorum5/read.php?15,73334,73334#msg-73334

Like Gia, I gave Tigger turkey one Thanksgiving and he went real low - he had never done that before.

We later started feeding raw turkey and raw chicken and I didn't see any difference in his numbers. Plus we feed cooked chicken breasts all the time for a mid-cycle snack and I don't see any difference (these aren't from a bag but individually purchased white chicken breasts).

So I guess that is why it is not mentioned too much anymore. There is such inconclusive data to support this. But if turkey works for Musette, then go for it! :)
 
i'd wonder if the chicken had been injected with "things" to make it moister, plumper, weigh more, etc. i think that's not uncommon to have the chicken with something added unless you're buying organic poultry, or from a brand that you know doesn't do that.
 
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