AM +6 testing, got 64.

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Liang & Nathan

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I have read the hypoglycemia quick reference a few times.

It says very low numbers as <40, Low numbers as 40-60.

So is 64 ok? We tested twice and both readings were 64.

Just feed him some dry food.
 
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Peter: sorry for the delay but I’ve been off the board a few days.

It is very fortunate you have caught this early. I would definitely avoid the dry food if you can and you need to be sure you are feeding canned food that is the lowest phosphorus levels that FaFa will eat. Of course, we don’t want her starving herself so if dry is all she will eat, so be it, but it is really best for the CKD for her to eat canned or balanced raw food that is lower in phosphorus.

I see Tanya’s was linked for you so I would start by reading about phosphorus and anemia. She does not need a binder until her P level is over 6 so focus on the foods that are lower in P. Right now, her hematocrit is good but as it approaches 30, you will want to start B vitamins as discussed on Tanya’s under “Anemia”.

It’s important to check the urine to see if she has protein in it. If she does, they need to run a urine protein:creatinine ratio because proteinuria is common in CKD cats and controlling it, along with phosphorus and anemia, are the keys to longevity. She also needs to have her blood pressure checked every time you take her in. With my CKD cats, I usually had them in to see the vet every 3 months. If she gets close to anemia, you have to weigh taking the blood and the value you get out of it against the anemia. But, as long as she is not approaching 30% on the hematocrit, keeping an eye on the blood allows you to make adjustments if the P goes up, if Ca goes up, and if the creatinine goes up. Subq fluids are not started until the creatinine is above 3.5. Also, her potassium is a trending a bit low right now; it should be above 4 so you might want to talk to the vet about when/if to start potassium supplementation. Do not do this without a vet!

Right now, the food she needs is a good quality protein and I would not feed low protein. I would focus on good quality protein even up to 60% if you need to in order to keep the P lower.

Hello,

Would you please take a look at my cat Kitty's blood work results and give me some advice?

She had blood test and urinalysis on 05/02/2020. SDMA 27, CREATITINE 3.5, BUN 69. She also had UTI, so she was on Orbax for 10 days.

She was rechecked on 05/11/2020. CREATITINE 3.4, BUN 54.

Since then she has been on moderate protein 27-35%, low phosphorus (<200mg/100Kcal) canned food. She eats about 5 oz canned food each day. I add about extra 1.7 oz water to the food daily. She also drinks from the fountain on her own.

The vet said SubQ fluids are NOT needed now.

Before her diagnosis, she urinated 4-5 times a day.

After being on the moderate protein/ low phosphorus canned food for 3 weeks, she now urinates about 3 times a day. Is this a good sign or bad?

She will be rechecked in 2 months.

Attached are the bloodwork on 05/02/2020 and 05/11/2020.

Thank you very much.
 

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Try and see if I can @Marje and Gracie, would you please take a look at Kitty's blood test ans urinalysis results and give me some advice? Thanks a lot.

My reply to other member's post was moved into my post.

The cat with CKD is Kitty, and she is not diabetic.

The diabetic cat is Nathan.
 
Hello,

Would you please take a look at my cat Kitty's blood work results and give me some advice?

She had blood test and urinalysis on 05/02/2020. SDMA 27, CREATITINE 3.5, BUN 69. She also had UTI, so she was on Orbax for 10 days.

She was rechecked on 05/11/2020. CREATITINE 3.4, BUN 54.

Since then she has been on moderate protein 27-35%, low phosphorus (<200mg/100Kcal) canned food. She eats about 5 oz canned food each day. I add about extra 1.7 oz water to the food daily. She also drinks from the fountain on her own.

The vet said SubQ fluids are NOT needed now.

Before her diagnosis, she urinated 4-5 times a day.

After being on the moderate protein/ low phosphorus canned food for 3 weeks, she now urinates about 3 times a day. Is this a good sign or bad?

She will be rechecked in 2 months.

Attached are the bloodwork on 05/02/2020 and 05/11/2020.

Thank you very much.
I moved your post here because it concerns your cat; if you post it in someone else’s thread, we call it a “thread hijack” ;):) Best to always put information regarding your kitty in his thread. You can always tag members; for example, if you had wanted me to look at his labs, you’d post them in this thread and then type @Marje and Gracie and ask me to look at them.

Has your vet mentioned that Nathan appears to be in Stage 3 of chronic kidney disease? Her phosphorus, calcium, hematocrit, and potassium look pretty good right now although she is trending towards anemia. As I suggested on the other thread, you might want to start reading on Tanya’s site for CKD cats and I would definitely focus on the page on anemia right now as you will need to start giving B vitamins soon. I would say she’s also close to needing subq fluids at home and you should discuss that with your vet again if the creatinine goes any higher. There is a section on “Hydration” on the above site as well. You are doing a good job of keeping her phosphorus low with whatever you are feeding. My healthy cat urinates three times a day so I don’t think that is an issue for her. With CKD cats, you want their main hydration to come from them drinking water and by adding water to their food as you are doing for as long as they can keep up. At some point, and it’s often around 3.5 on the creatinine, they can no longer process enough water to stay ahead of their peeing so you have to give subqs.

Once you read some of the important sections on Tanya’s like anemia (and B vitamins), phosphorus, hydration, and proteinuria (just so you are familiar with it), then tag me with any specific questions although I am not a vet. It looks to me like you are doing a good job. One of my CKD cats lived over four years with his numbers about where Nathan’s are and he was very stable; he did not pass from CKD.

Two months is a reasonable time to recheck.
 
I moved your post here because it concerns your cat; if you post it in someone else’s thread, we call it a “thread hijack” ;):) Best to always put information regarding your kitty in his thread. You can always tag members; for example, if you had wanted me to look at his labs, you’d post them in this thread and then type @Marje and Gracie and ask me to look at them.

Has your vet mentioned that Nathan appears to be in Stage 3 of chronic kidney disease? Her phosphorus, calcium, hematocrit, and potassium look pretty good right now although she is trending towards anemia. As I suggested on the other thread, you might want to start reading on Tanya’s site for CKD cats and I would definitely focus on the page on anemia right now as you will need to start giving B vitamins soon. I would say she’s also close to needing subq fluids at home and you should discuss that with your vet again if the creatinine goes any higher. There is a section on “Hydration” on the above site as well. You are doing a good job of keeping her phosphorus low with whatever you are feeding. My healthy cat urinates three times a day so I don’t think that is an issue for her. With CKD cats, you want their main hydration to come from them drinking water and by adding water to their food as you are doing for as long as they can keep up. At some point, and it’s often around 3.5 on the creatinine, they can no longer process enough water to stay ahead of their peeing so you have to give subqs.

Once you read some of the important sections on Tanya’s like anemia (and B vitamins), phosphorus, hydration, and proteinuria (just so you are familiar with it), then tag me with any specific questions although I am not a vet. It looks to me like you are doing a good job. One of my CKD cats lived over four years with his numbers about where Nathan’s are and he was very stable; he did not pass from CKD.

Two months is a reasonable time to recheck.

Thank you very much for the information.

Nathan and Kitty are two different cats...

Nathan is diabetic, but not CKD.

Kitty has CKD, but not diabetic.
 
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