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luxthekitty

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Hi all

I am some ways off from needing to consider this, but I wanted to know if anyone knows of any organizations that would adopt a diabetic kitty-- or if anyone in Florida area would take one on. I am in a financial crisis of sorts, and the costs for care are out of control :(

Just trying to explore options if it comes to that point. Sigh.
 
Most shelters will not take in a diabetic cat. There are a few that do cater to diabetics, one is Hart of Maine.

Of course the best thing to do is keep your cat and manage the diabetes. Many cats, if caught early enough and with some simple changes can go into remission and not need insulin at all or for very long.

We also have many tips and tricks on how to manage the entire diabetes process on a budget.

How about sharing your information with us about your cat, and what you are doing and we can help.

I'll get things started by giving you some basic information:


There are three key factors to managing diabetes: food/nutrition, home testing and insulin

1) Feline Nutrition: Now, as far as diet - definitely dump the dry food (if you are feeding any) and if the vet recommends purchasing prescription food like DM just say "no thank you". ALL cats, and especially those with diabetes, do best on a species appropriate diet that is high in protein and low in carbs. Dry food DOES NOT fit that bill and DM food, even canned, just really isn't that great as far as quality. Most here on FDMB feed low carb/high protein canned, raw bought from a pet store or they make there own.

Here is a link to a site by a vet "Dr. Lisa DVM" ... who also posts on this board from time to time ... http://www.catinfo.org

If you look on the right side of her site, she has a food comparison chart to help you figure out what food you want to get based on the carb %.

You want to keep the carb % below 10% and around 7% is great. (Personally, I stay between 0-6% carbs.)

While on her site, you can read about in-depth info. on nutrition and how to make raw food, etc.

Here is another link that will give more information about food/nutrition

Nutrition/food info

The good thing with feeding your diabetic cat this way, is that it is ALSO good for any non-diabetic cat too. All your cats can safely eat the same food without worry and it may save you some costs and headaches of having to do separate feedings and keeping track of what they are eating.


2. Home testing: It is impossible to convey the value of testing your cat's BG (blood glucose) level at home. Some vets will "suggest" this, but most won't even mention it. They will send you home with insulin and an amount to shoot and maybe some instructions about hypoglycemia (blood sugar dropping to a dangerously low level).

Well, the thing is, human diabetics don't EVER give themselves insulin without checking there BG to make sure it is safe to do so, so why shouldn't it be the same for our kitties. Here on FDMB it is. You will notice that the vast majority of people here test their cat's BG at least 2x/day (before giving each shot to make sure the level is safe enough) and periodically at other times to see how the cat is responding to the current dose. We use a human glucometer, test strips and lancets - which are all very readily available and easy to use.

Our kitties get lots of love and treats for "putting up" with this and most of them actually come out to be tested on their own 'cause they want those treats . Here is a collection of great links that "Carolyn and Spot" pulled together about home testing. See what you think ... it truly is the best way to not only keep your cat safe but also really get a handle on this disease and help him to live a healthy life with FD (feline diabetes).

Home testing Links

3. Insulin: There are several types of insulin available. The top three we recommend are Lantus, Levimer or Prozinc all are great insulins. They are gentle insulin and given twice (BID) per day in 12 hour increments.

Please read up on the insulins available, here is a link to the Insulin Support Groups:

Insulin Support Groups


However, one caveat and again this shows how these three things are inter-related:

If you are feeding dry food or even a high carb food, BEFORE removing these foods, please make sure of your insulin dose as it will most likely need to be reduced, so as to avoid a possible hypoglycemic situation due to the removal of the dry/high carb foods that will lower the BG’s and reduce the amount of insulin required. Again, another reason why home testing is important.


I know this all seems like a lot, and that is because it is ... there is a learning curve here. But as long as you are determined and keep at it, you will have it down before you know it and you'll be seeing the results in Your cat's overall health and happiness. Ask all the questions you can think of – that is why we are here!

Now, you can do this on a budget. Here is a shopping to get started:

1. Meter ie Walmart Relion Confirm or Micro*
2. Matching strips
3. Lancets - little sticks to poke the ear to get blood . new members usually start with a larger gauge lancet such as 28g or 29g until the ear learns to bleed. Optional - lancing tool.
4. Neosporin or Polysporin ointment with pain relief to heal the wound (can use generic brand)
5. Mini flashlight (optional) - useful to help see the ear veins in dark cats, and to press against
7. Ketone urine test strips ie ketodiastix - Important to check ketones when blood is high
8. Treats for the cat - like freeze dried chicken, even rotisserie chicken, deli chicken, canned tuna will work
9. Karo syrup/table syrup, honey or any sugar product like jam, jelly, etc. if you dont have it at home - for hypo emergencies to bring blood sugar up fast -
10. A couple of cans of fancy feast gravy lovers or other high carb gravy food- for hypo emergencies to bring blood sugar up fast


• We suggest the Relion meter and matching strips from Walmart, as they are the most economically priced meter and strips. That is assuming you have a Walmart nearby. If not, then you can purchase any human glucometer except for Freestyle with butterfly strips or any meter with TRU in the name. People have had issues in the past with these meters and best to start off with something else.


Here is a link to questions that you can ask any vet:

http://www.indulgedfurries.com/petdiabe ... stions.htm
 
I'll be honest, adopting out a diabetic cat is hard. DCIN (Diabetic Cats In Need) do take listings for diabetic cats looking to be rehomed and in some cases also may provide financial assistance to cover testing supplies and insulin. Although they recently had a pretty steep cut back so not sure what all they are covering now, but do know that they maintain a facebook site where they will allow posting of diabetic cats needing to be rehomed.

Give me a sec and I will go track down a link to other programs that also offer financial assistance to cover pet care costs. (unless someone beats me too it).

But if you could give us a little bit more about your kitty like what s/he is eating, what insulin at what dose and if you are testing at home or would like to learn how, we might have a bunch of tips to keep your costs down and let you and your buddy stay together.

Mel and The Fur Gang
 
I have cut costs where I can but it is still insanely expensive as i'm sure you all know. I have drained my savings account and am spending close to $250 monthly on him as it is now.

He is not insulin resistant but he doesn't respond to it like a cat normally could, so his dosage varies from none to 5 units and he is not well regulated as a result. I test his glucose before shots twice daily, and he is on Lantus insulin. I have cut costs by purchasing from Craigslist before but there are rarely postings.

The insulin alone is a huge expense, not to mention a $30 box of needles... $15 box of lancets... $55 bottle of test strips for the glucometer. When i take his sugar twice a day not even factoring in a curve test... it adds up fast.
 
He is not insulin resistant but he doesn't respond to it like a cat normally could, so his dosage varies from none to 5 units and he is not well regulated as a result. I test his glucose before shots twice daily, and he is on Lantus insulin. I have cut costs by purchasing from Craigslist before but there are rarely postings.

ARe you keeping track of his BG's and the doses you are giving?

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Have you read the protocol for using Lantus? How often are you changing the dose?
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This is just a guess, but I'm thinking that the reason you are "all over the place" with his dose is because you are not following the protocol correctly.

STICKY: LANTUS & LEVEMIR - TIGHT REGULATION PROTOCOL viewtopic.php?f=9&t=1581

We recommend starting at 1 unit or even 1/2 unit and holding that dose for at least 3-5 days. Depending on BG tests.

Also, it's great that you are testing, but it will be very helpful to test a little more frequently than just twice a day.

For example - if you can test, before each shot, 2 hours after the shot and then one more time at least before the next shot - that would be a good start.

Determining the dose for lantus is based on the Nadir - which is the lowest bg level of the cycle, not just based on the pre-shot bg.

I recommend you visit the lantus forum and read up on the use of lantus, put a spreadsheet together and we can help you better tweak what you are doing.




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The insulin alone is a huge expense, not to mention a $30 box of needles... $15 box of lancets... $55 bottle of test strips for the glucometer. When i take his sugar twice a day not even factoring in a curve test... it adds up fast.

While we understand the cost of lantus is expensive - the lantus if stored properly, will last MUCH longer than what is says on the box. Also purchasing the pens (and some pharmacies will sell one pen at a time) is more economical than purchasing the vial.

You can purchase syringes from Walmart - relion brand for approximately $13/box of 100 - make sure they have the 1/2 unit markings on them.

Lancets and test strips can also be purchased at Walmart - what brand of meter are you currently using? If you purchase Relion Confirm - it's the least expensive meter and strips available and requires a small blood sample.
 
He has been diabetic for about 2 1/2 years so I have been through it all-- tight regulation included. He went to see specialists aside from his vet and I used to read the FDMD religiously to test his glucose but unfortunately I think he is just a difficult case. I do keep a log of his numbers.

I use the Alphatrak2 Glucometer but I will definitely look into the Walmart one that was discussed. As far as syringes go, I believe I need to use my precription on him to obtain them. Are the Walmart Relion brand syringes available OTC? Or will the pharmacy have them?

Thanks!
 
I completely understand the expense, as I have 3 diabetics and 13 non-diabetics plus a 127 lb dog. One way to cut costs is on food, every one of my cats eat what my my diabetics do. Just regular Friskies Pate style canned food. My one that is still insulin dependent for now is on Levemir and it is pricey, but a 5 pack of pens last me a year. I get my insulin from Canada, I happen to be lucky enough to have a friend from this board that lives near enough to the board that she can run across and pick it up for me when she gets it for her own cats. But in the past have had great luck ordering it online from there as well. Just paid $140 for a 5 pk of pens.

One thing with both Lantus and Levemir is that you don't base dose changes on preshots, but the nadir or lowest point in the cycle and you don't change doses daily, both are depot insulins and build up a deposit under the skin. They do best when the same dose is given at the same time twice a day and held for a certain length of time because that deposit has to change with every dose change.

I spend $13 for a box of 100 syringes, $5 for lancets (I test between 4-6 times daily) and $50 for 100 test strips I also use the Relion Micro and love it. Walmart will have them and it depends on your state if you need a script for them...Nebraska doesn't

I'm also unemployed and we live on my husband's income only and he is a roofer so winter can be tight. But we manage.

Mel and The Fur Gang
 
Sounds like you have put a lot of effort into helping your kitty. I know when Smokey went high dose we were using a vial up completely before a month was out. We are in a very high cost state for prescription stuff :( I buy my syringes (Monoject) on ADW from the Shop link on this site. They are normally around $26, right now only $12. One box lasts a little over 3 months I also recommend not using a pet meter, but getting a human meter. There is a bit of variance you need to wrap your head around, but the strips are so much cheaper. I get all my Accu-chek Avia strips on eBay for $20-$25 for 50 and it is still one of the more expensive human meters.

As far as adoptions. The best thing to do is check with the rescues and shelters around you to see if any of them can help. Maybe they will courtesy list for you at least if none will take him in (with the high cost of his care being the reason you want to surrender, it will be hard to find a rescue that can shoulder that an better). It can be hard to find a new home. I have the best foster cat in the world as far as personality and Cecil has been in remission since May, but not one person interested in applying for him once the word diabetic is out there. They do get adopted, it just takes a lot of time and patience.
 
Hi there! Is there a converstion for using the Walmart Relion meter versus a pet meter like the AlphaTrak? I just ran out to my Walmart and purchased one
:)

That's great that you purchased a new meter. The human meters read a little lower than the alpha trak. There is no "conversion" chart - rather you will use the meter as is and if you get a reading 50 or lower - then it's time to reduce the dose. where I believe 70 was the low reading on the alpha trak.

hope that helps.....
 
luxthekitty said:
I have cut costs where I can but it is still insanely expensive as i'm sure you all know. I have drained my savings account and am spending close to $250 monthly on him as it is now.

He is not insulin resistant but he doesn't respond to it like a cat normally could, so his dosage varies from none to 5 units and he is not well regulated as a result. I test his glucose before shots twice daily, and he is on Lantus insulin. I have cut costs by purchasing from Craigslist before but there are rarely postings.

The insulin alone is a huge expense, not to mention a $30 box of needles... $15 box of lancets... $55 bottle of test strips for the glucometer. When i take his sugar twice a day not even factoring in a curve test... it adds up fast.

If you have a Walmart, I would recommend that you switch over to the Relion brand syringes, lancets and meter. A box of 100 syringes runs about $15, lancets $5 and 100 test strips $40. Also, if you are using Lantus, if you are still using a vial, switch to the pens instead. Even at your current dose, one pack of pens should last at least 6 months.
 
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