A pure vent Just about to pack it all in

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MommaOfMuse

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You know I'm just a little ticked off this morning and have been for a couple days now.

I'm really getting tired of hearing how many folks there are in TR

What to know why?

Because every time someone figures things out over here, or have the slightest hiccup and I'm not here they leave.

Not just about everyone who has figured out the protocol or gotten their cat off insulin, disappears.

Frankly I don't have to be here daily. I figured out this dance YEARS ago. I'm here because I'm PAYING IT FORWARD

Yes there are more folks on TR there always will be because that forum was started 10 years ago, this one only a couple years ago. They are two entirely different protocols and posting and testing routines.

KPassa is still here and she doesn't need to be, and right now is understandable absent after her mother's passing

But there have been plenty more that could be here and aren't. Every single one of you have experience to share and pass along. You all can read and understand protocol or be able to look up and post links to help each other out.

I'M DONE! I have given up my days, evenings, and weekends as well as sleep to be here when needed. But folks, I need a life as well. I love helping you all out, I love seeing very sick cats when they arrive with scared kitty parents get well and their caregivers grow in confidence but enough is enough. I come to love every cat here, I worry when I don't see posts, I cry buckets when one is lost. You are ALL important to me. But I have my breaking point and right now I'm on the edge.

I'm ready to pack it all in, let this forum fall into the ashes because everyone has to run to TR.

Mel and The Fur Gang
 
Mel,I myself just posted in this forum for advice too. I meant no harm when I did ,just wanted to have their different point of view and it doesn't mean I will stay there. I guess no one expects you to be online all the time, you have so many fur friends to take care of. Reading this post made me sad though I am not sure what exactly made you feel like this.
 
I think more people might post to help on this forum if they weren't afraid of getting "flamed" for lack of better word.
Everyone on the forums should be here for getting advice or helping people out. It isn't a monarchy or a communist state, and I think sometimes people with good intentions seem to forget that in their "zeal."

Every cat is different and what works for one might not work for another. Last year I was going crazy trying to help Cedric, yet he went DKA, had pancreatitis again and then he just gave up. I called a friend with more experience several times a week in my craziness for help. Unfortunately, since he died of acute necratizing pancreatitis, nothing I did helped and probably never would have.

That aside, I think patience is needed. No matter what, when you change a dose, you have to give it a chance. You are always going to see a dramatic change the next day. I think too many pet parents run out of patience in their fear, need or craziness - what ever you want to call it - and feel they need answers NOW.

I work 7 days a week. I don't have the time anymore to be online like I used to. Crap, I went thru the ironing pile this morning and there must be at least 2 hours of work there. I spent an hour last night downloading pics from my trip to Hawaii when I should have been ironing!

mel, everyone appreciates your time, whether they say so or not. :thumbup
 
I for one would be very, very sorry to see you go, Mel. I've learned so much from you about how to help Saoirse (and sometimes how to pay forward a little by trying to support other kitty parents with the basics). You are such a gifted teacher and you explain things so well. I can only speak for myself, but I feel that I can ask you even the daftest of novice questions and always receive a response that takes into account the limitations I have in trying to help Saoirse towards remission.

It was you and you alone that gave me the confidence to adapt the TR and SLGS protocols to come up with a tailored treatment plan that is keeping Saoirse in healing numbers over 90% of the time while allowing me to monitor her when insulin is active in her system, and to at least get some sleep when my own health issues permit. If I was being pushed to follow TR to the letter, I would have been completely incapacitated by now (instead of mostly incapacitated) because I can't cope with even attempting to sleep until I know that Saoirse is safe after each insulin injection. That would have been a disaster for Saoirse, because there is no-one else to take care of her. As it was, before joining this board when I was trying to stick to the TR rules to the letter my already iffy health was deteriorating badly.

I check in here every day to read your posts and to see how everyone else is getting on and pitch in on the occasions when I can provide support and maybe some bit of help inasmuch as my limited experience as a diabetic kitty parent will allow me to do safely. I don't post that much at the moment about Saoirse on Relaxed because things are going so well thanks to your help that there aren't any significant changes to report.

Would it help if I were to make a daily post? Is there anything else that I might contribute to help the Relaxed Lantus group survive?

I haven't felt anything like as lonely with this whole process since joining this group and it just wouldn't be the same without you, Mel. I can't thank you enough for all that you do here to help us. You have so much going on in your own life and I for one am immensely grateful that you give so much of your oh-so-precious time and caring to help us here.

I really hope you don't go.

:YMHUG:

(ETA: I would understand if you have to go - you do so much for so many. You need time for you as well. (((Mel))) )
 
Mel,
You're the only one I've watched repeatedly 'break your toys'...BIG HUG Ladybug. You've taught me SO much which has kept all my babies safer, not just the extra sweet ones.

Now let's DANCE!!!

:dizcat dancing_cat
 
I would hate to see you go. I'm in ProZinc most of the time but I read and respond to post all over the board. I especially like to read post from members that have been around for a while (I've been here for 3 years) because I feel as I've gotten to know them well. I'm not really much help since I'm afraid to give any advise for fear it will be wrong. The first time I gave advice I got flamed but it was well deserved because I was just not thinking about the way I said something. After that I've never wanted to give any advice for fear that I may harm someones beloved kitty. However, that said, I do like to encourage newbies since they are so afraid at first (I can relate to that) and I do like to make a comment to someone who just lost a baby because again, I can relate to that. And from time to time I still just like to cry into someones ear since I am again faced with the decision of having to let another beloved kitty go.
We are a pride on this board and I hope that you will stay around as I will miss your comments and advise. Maybe you just needed to vent and show your claws a bit?? I do hope you will reconsider and stay around at least a little bit??
Terriy & Chicken Little
 
Di&Misho said:
Mel,I myself just posted in this forum for advice too. I meant no harm when I did ,just wanted to have their different point of view and it doesn't mean I will stay there.
Di, Please don't feel guilty for doing what you needed to do to help your cat. Misho is the important one and there is nothing wrong with getting different points of view. Personally, I believe it means you are thinking, searching, and learning and that's a great thing.
 
Folks I'm tired and more than just a little bit cranky today. This isn't my first meltdown in 4 years and probably won't be my last, which is why this is just me purely venting. You see I'm not handling this month very well at all. I have a couple of very tough milestone anniversaries just around the corner that I really wasn't expecting to hit me like a ton of bricks, but they are. You see I lost my 18 year old civie Onyx to cancer on the 14th of this month two years ago. I said my final good-bye to him when he crashed at the vet's on what should have been just a quick check-up exam before the long holiday weekend of Thanksgiving. He screamed for me as he gasp for air and tried to crawl to me, as they worked to try to save him. When they couldn't I gave the order to end his suffering, he earned his wings at 11:45 am. When I got home, my answering machine light was flashing, it was my mother's hospice nurse, mom was failing and if I was to see her again alive I needed to get there asap. Mom lingered for 2 more weeks before finally passing away on November 23rd. Her husband did nothing but stay drunk while I made all the funeral arrangements. I was numb for months afterwards and while trying to cope with the double whammy I was still here trying to do my best for everyone here at the time. And being chewed on by my older sister about how cold I was at mom's funeral. Now my mom and I weren't particularly close, not like we were when I was younger, but we loved each other fiercely it wasn't that I didn't feel or didn't care that she was gone, I just didn't have any tears left. In some ways I was relieved that both where now gone, because it meant no more pain, no more food and meds shoved down their throats and no more waiting on pins and needles for what we all knew was coming. Neither would ever be well again. But I had also been both Onyx and my mother's caregiver and I was equally as lost without the routine that both had put on me. I wasn't coping well. Today I was going through pictures to put together an anniversary video for Maxwell and as luck would have it, I stumbled head long into pictures of my mom, Onyx, Musette and Muse. I lost it.

Then I come here and see how flipping quiet it is here when I knew I should be seeing several condos by now...an again I lost it. So I did what I do well anymore I vented.

So to address some of the things you all have said. Yes, it would help to see condos if not daily then every few days when things are going well. Why? because it does show the newbies that wander in that we have cats that are thriving and that folks are around that have their acts together. Think back when you first started, if all you saw where numbers posted with cats in the 300 and 400s here and a wide array of numbers from green to yellow in TR where are you going to go?

It's why Autumn still has a condo even when she is doing great, because she is a success story, and when I lost my control on her BGs it is why I posted what I was trying to regain it. Because maybe, just maybe someone would swing in, read her condo and go "Hey, that is what my cat's doing maybe I can try what she is trying." Even if they never ever post.

Jesse, I know all too well about the being flamed, been there, and why I can't even consider asking the Old Timers to post to help out, but there are others that started in Relaxed, that got it, and some that even got their cats OTJ that went POOF! Those are the ones that I'm a little ticked at, okay ticked might be a harsh word, more like saddened by. Because I miss them, I miss hearing funny stories about their kitties, all of them not just their extra sweet ones. And I do understand that not everyone can be here everyday, but come on, check in every now and then, tell us about your lives, your new furry additions to the family, the kids and even to blow off steam about the job. Because I do care, I think of you all as not only friends I've never met but as family.

I also remember what a magical place this board use to be. And in 4 years I see it losing that magic because so many are coming in, getting helped and then just disappearing. If each generation doesn't pay it forward we are going to lose this resource. Go take a good look at TR, there are literally hundreds of cats there, everyday and only a few experienced folks giving assistance. If I'm being stretched to my breaking point here, I can only imagine how their 'old timers' feel. And why I hear so many times that newbies feel lost in the shuffle. Its easy to do when you have very few paying it forward and so many finding us. We are all human, we all have lives and families and jobs and other fur kids. But it takes mere minutes to put up your own condo and then pop into another person's even if it is just a Hi how's it going? Whatcha having problems with? Oh yeah, me too or hey I think I read something about that just the other day let me see if I can find it.

Go over to Health, give a hug and a warm welcome to a scared newbie, If they are struggling with testing or even getting a spreadsheet up but are on Lantus or Levemir invite them here. I'm not nearly as strict about those things in the beginning, as TR is and they have to be, they have lots of kitties and move doses quickly so they need to be able to stay on top of numbers to prevent hypos. I hate the named RELAXED but I didn't pick it, nothing we do here is relaxed, but we also are smaller we have the time to offer one on one help and to teach the steps, then if you can follow TR and want to, fine please do. I actually am very well versed in both protocols, I just need to know which one or a combination of the two that you want to follow. I just hate seeing this forum a wasteland, and then seeing things both on Health and here about posting in TR because there is either no one here in RL or more people in TR. I've never used PZI but I have started running over there as well because it is suffering the same fate, folks learn the protocol, get their cats under control and vanish. Poor Sue hasn't had a sugar cat for 7 years and yet she is the only one posting there daily to help the newbies, they just don't have another forum as backup. So because I do know NPH and I do know the basics for this dance I've been swinging by PZI to just be a friendly voice. To play cheer leader when I can and to offer what little I can so no one over there has a post that sits for hours without a single response.

Will I truly leave, probably not. Since even when I say I'm not going to be here I am, I may not post but I do check in repeatedly and if you need me NOW all you have to do is throw up a 911 icon and I will jump in almost immediately unless its the middle of the night and I didn't hear my phone alert that there was a new post. If I don't see a 911 or a ? icon on the weekends or in the evenings I normally figure everything is okay and folks are chatting so I may not read that condo right away. But a 911 will grab me every time.

Will I have another meltdown...yeah probably. Hopefully not anytime in the near future. But I am human, I get frustrated and I blow my stack occasionally. Although I'm pretty good about announcing that I'm venting. It is never anything personal or directed at anyone in particular. It is as it is stated a vent. If it wasn't and if I didn't from time to time vent I would be nuts or I would simply walk away from this board and not say a word to anyone.

Mel and The Fur Gang
 
Di

You are definitely not what I was venting about. I have no problem at all with anyone posting anywhere when they need too. I even post in different forums when I run up against things that I have never dealt with before. It's how we all learn. And that is what its all about, learning the best way we can help our babies. Just been a really rough week for me and I needed to growl and hiss a little.

Mel and The Fur Gang
 
Anniversaries are tough. And they can be really sneaky ...

I feel for you, Mel.

:YMHUG:

Although I'm only a recent joiner to the Relaxed Lantus group and thus don't know how the group was in the past, I can relate to what you describe about the changes that may happen to previously vibrant groups because I've seen similar happen to the picture framing forums I belong to. There used to be a wonderful sense of family on both of them. One got Skyped, the other one got Facebooked. It really saddened me to see the participation shrink, not so much because of the discussions about our craft but because I missed all of the exchanges about the workaday stuff and the joys and sorrows of their daily lives; all that is the lifeblood of family and friendship.
 
You know mel i would be devastated if you left and it's true I feel guilty every time I post in tight regulation :? I sort of drift between the two depending on my needs but I have tried to reply to others here. I don't want to post a new thread every day about remi and so prefer the relaxed approach but just these last few days he has gone really low. :mrgreen:

I do worry about giving advice and swore I would not do it again after a sleepless night when other members didn't agree with what I said about pancreatitis and so have tried to steer clear of doing it. I helped run a rosacea forum and to be honest a lot of the time it is had work and it eats you up. I totally get your vent.

I hope I haven't let anyone down. The Halloween posts made me so sad that I decided I needed the weekend away. They made me worry that when remi goes across the bridge he won't have any friends and will be alone as he doesn't like any other cats and has never lived with any.

Must go as remi is below 50 again tonight :shock:
 
Sarah

Thanks for understanding. Thank you all for understanding. :YMHUG: Again not directed at anyone personally just a good old fashioned letting off of steam. And not being in a really great place emotionally right now. Really didn't expect after 2 years for this anniversary to hit as hard as it did. Especially after pretty much sailing through the last one. I don't know maybe last year was easier because we were still at the old house, that still held so many memories of the good times together where their spirits still were so close it felt like they never really left and this year, everything is new because it is a new house. I don't look around here and still see Onyx's favorite chair or Muse's favorite spot to lay in the sun so they feel much farther away from me now. I just don't know.

Don't get me wrong I love the new house, it has been a blessing for us all, but it also doesn't contain the same memories as the old place, I can't go and sit in the memorial garden yet when I'm missing my babies because it is yet to be planted here. I can't go to their 'spots' and feel them near me. I know they are here, because they are still in my heart and their urns are in the pass through in the dinning room. Its just not the same this time around.

Mel and The Fur Gang
 
MommaOfMuse said:
Di

You are definitely not what I was venting about.

Mel and The Fur Gang
I am glad I read that as I felt quite upset because I really thought it was me to blame. I know that sometimes I am lost in translation and may be I say things that most likely sound silly but it has never been my intention to hurt anyone of you.
I hope you will soon feel better as I do understnd how you feel. :YMHUG:
 
Mel
i'm so sorry that you are feeling that terrible pain of loss. i know it happens to me out of no where. i will be fine and then hysterical crying over my lost babies. also the only reason i suggested to Di to try TR the other night was because she had the 911 up and no one answered her and i was so nervous for her because i didn't know how to advise her. anyway.... again i'm sorry you are having a painful month. what can we do to help YOU ????????
 
Ah, Lady Mel, I think you need to get one of your whips out of the closet. ;-) :lol:

I got the pics back from Ace's visit with the photographer. I will post a link later today if I can (I am supposed to be working right now...)
 
Ohhhhh baby pictures I can't wait!!! Love da baby pictures...just not crazy about kittens anymore...lol Mariposa is enough kitten energy in this house for a long while. Of course every time I say that I end up with a kitten. :roll:

Nope no more kittens for me, they are so stinking cute when they are babies but OMG the work they take to teach them manners. Give me a senior cat even a diabetic or other special needs any day over a kitten. I love kittens...someone else's lol Kittens are like grandchildren...love to spoil them, play with them and then leave them with their parents and go home when they are being naughty lol

Mel and The Fur Gang
 
yes, I am still having an issue with the screen climbing. he is down to one cap on his front claws, time for another trip to PetSmart's groomer!
 
Aw Mel... I am sorry you are upset about things here and some emotional challenges coming your way. We love you and value your advice. I don't post condos now because the visiting kittens are in the study where the computer is and mommacat was in the room where the testing book is. Now that Alska has his room back, I can update his spreadsheet. I want to post condos periodically just because the family here of beans and sugars are important to me. Your friendship is important to me. Sometimes I get miffed at newbies telling me what to do but that's just something I have to get over.

I don't feel comfortable giving dosing advice so I look for the food related appeals - mostly in Health and try to respond there - especially about transitioning off dry food. That's my specialty. I check Health once a day to see if there are opportunities to respond. I think we all have our specialties. I know that you are strong on the dosing and so is Linda.

Please don't think that Alska and I have abandoned you. After the 15th I will not have any baby gates or closed rooms or any feedings happening outside of the kitchen. I will be down to four cats and it will be quiet but it will enable me to give full attention to Alska and his numbers. I hope you will be here so Alska can see his Autumn on the sundeck or wave at her picnicking in the grass.

Robin

FYI - you words to me about your GAs meeting Mommacat to help her find my mother to cross the rainbow bridge together were so comforting to envision. Thank you for your kindness.
 
I would be happy to chime in if you think I can be of help. Quite frankly, I was keeping quiet so as not to upset the apple cart. I have never been sure if it is okay for me to offer advise, and on those times that I have, I have been afraid of someone saying "Hey! You! what makes you an expert, you be quiet there!"
 
Linda

Of course you can chime in...anyone can! None of us are experts, we are all just common everyday people that are caring for and loving our sugarcats. The ONLY thing we are experts on is knowing our own cats. Period. Yes, some of us have been doing it longer than others, but we all started in the exact same place, scared newbies, we lived, our cats lived and we learned. No one dances the same way, we all from diet change to the first test, every last one of us had to find our own groove, we had to listen to the music our own cat was playing. And what we have to offer the next generation is exactly that....what we started with, those first cyber hugs, those first BREATHE its okay it isn't as scary as it seems.

If you have been here longer than a month, and have done any reading at all on this site, you can help walk up a hypo, you can offer testing and food tips, and even look at numbers on a spreadsheet and help with offering what you would do in the same situation. It is the personal experience that counts...Sammy is OTJ so you must have been doing something right....lol

I hate the word expert, because none of us are. There isn't anything magical I do that you all can't and I sure the heck don't know all the answers, I know what I have personally experienced and what I have read.

That is kind of where my frustration level was yesterday. I never want to see someone waiting on an "expert" to chime in. That's a lonely place to be. If you can't help because you have no experience in that area, go track someone down, send a pm, link the thread and ask for help. That I have found is actually sometimes faster than having to the poster repost on a different forum. And when all else fails...Cross post, I've done it hundreds of times, I will grab the link to the tread, run to a different forum and start a topic with "Need eyes on possible hypo and can't stay with" throw on a 911 and link the thread. Then wait with that person until help arrives.

With Tibbs right now, I've asked permission to share his spreadsheet with someone I know is excellent with possible high dose cats, why? Because I have no first hand experience. I can't spot one like she will be able to because I've never had an acro. But if I didn't know someone personally and respect her experience I would be cross-posting to the acro board.

It isn't a monarchy here, all voices are valid, we all have experience to share. Even if its just a "Don't know let me see if I can find someone that does"

Mel and The Fur Gang
 
LindaMS said:
I would be happy to chime in if you think I can be of help. Quite frankly, I was keeping quiet so as not to upset the apple cart. I have never been sure if it is okay for me to offer advise, and on those times that I have, I have been afraid of someone saying "Hey! You! what makes you an expert, you be quiet there!"

I feel the same way. I can't get my own cat regulated, so who am I to offer advice? I can sympathize with how overwhelming everything is!
 
*hugs* Mel! I personally am so very thankful for all the time you put in here. It amazes me how much you're able to do on this board with everything else you have going on! I've been feeling guilty for not getting on here for the last couple weeks to at least give cheers/support for folks, but it's been all I can handle to go to work, go to class, do homework, take care of the kitties, and still manage to eat and sleep. You're definitely a better woman than I am! :-D

I'm sorry you lost your mom and Onyx like that. Anniversaries of losing loved ones really are rough. Or just unexpectedly seeing something that reminds you of them. I put my winter sheets on my bed for the first time since last spring this past weekend. When I put the fitted sheet on, there, next to where my pillow would be, was a whisker that surely was Jibbit's stuck into the fabric. I completely lost it and went around crying for hours. There was no reason for it to be there, since the sheets had been washed and dried - that whisker should have been gone! I'm sure it was just a sign that he's still watching over me, but it was really upsetting. I miss my little guy so very much. :cry: So I totally understand that, too, just like everyone here, I'm sure.

Thanks for doing all you've done! And all you're likely to do. :YMHUG:
 
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