9/23 Tableau Update

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ehsuan

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I'm happy to report that last night at about 11:30 pm, I'm told Tableau ate like a little piggy! We'll see what today brings, but I'm more optimistic. They did feed him chicken and rice, but at the moment I could care less about the carbs - I just want him eating and putting some weight back on.

He's still in the hospital, but I should be able to bring him home tonight. I visited with him this morning and he wasn't as peppy as I would have liked, but hey, I wouldn't feel to peppy if I spent the night in a cage with strangers poking and prodding me either.

Tests game back and he does have pancreatitis. I don't know anything about this disease, so I will be studying up this weekend.

THANK YOU ALL for such support and caring. It really means a lot. I'm glad to know that others are rooting for Tableau too. If you met him you'd just fall in love with this sweet boy (and I know we'd love all your sweet kitties, too).
 
ouch on the p-titis...
but SO GLAD he had a piggish appetite!

sending more healing vines for Tableau...

celi & binks
 
yay for eating like a little piggy!! Now that you know what you are dealing with, you can research it and know how to take care of him .. now, and in the future if he get's it again .. I bet he can't wait to get home to you!
 
good news!!! i bet you'll be as happy to have him home as he'll be to get home.

i don't know if you've seen jojo's post on chronic pancreatitis: http://www.felinediabetes.com/phorum5/read.php?8,1092948,1092948#msg-1092948. i'll copy & paste it here because sometimes it takes the "old" board too long to load.

****CHRONIC PANCREATITIS****
(or does my cat have a pepcid deficiency?)

things are going great. diabetic fluffy is nicely regulated. and then one day...just seems "off". BG numbers are higher. not eating much. maybe vomits later that night. hunched up in the 'meatloaf' position. lethargic. what is going on? you listen to the freely dispensed pepcid advice off board and after a couple of days fluffy seems to snap out of it. pepcid rocks! and recommend it to the next person on board that posts about their diabetic cat being "off".
however a few weeks/months later fluffy goes through the same episode. and again. and again. some of the episodes are worse than others. that last attack was bad and you got scared and fluffy was hauled off to vet for some basic blood work. yet nothing really abnormal on the results. is this just a normal part of being a diabetic cat? does your cat have a basic pepcid deficiency??? no.

it is estimated that <b>AT LEAST 40% of all diabetic cats</b> have what is known as Chronic Pancreatitis (CP). makes sense, the pancreas is the weak link with diabetics, in fact CP could be the causative factor on why fluffy became diabetic in the first place. simply put the pancreas has 2 types of basic functions~ the production of metabolic hormones (like the one everyone knows about, insulin) and the production of digestive enzymes. with pancreatitis it is the production of those digestive enzymes that is out of whack. when the pancreas 'misfires' and activates those digestive enzymes too early, the pancreas actually starts to digest itself and then the surrounding tissue and nearby organs, and systemic inflammation and toxin production ensues. there is a close link between CP with IBD and Cholangiohepatitis, (all three together collectively known as Triaditis).
so what now?

the best diagnostic test available is the fPLI (feline pancreatic lipase immunoreactivity ) http://www.cvm.tamu.edu/gilab/assays/cPLI.shtml not perfect but far better than the options we had in the recent past.
it is far better to have a diagnosis (always) because then you and your vet can form a plan better than just pepcid. SQ fluids and pain management top the list. CP flare ups ARE painful...look carefully at how your cat is acting, it is not easy to tell when a cat is in pain, they hide it well. it is not just nausea that is keeping fluffy hunkered down under the chair, it is pain.
possible tools your vet might have you use:
~SQ fluids
~ pain meds
~ anti-nausea meds (hey look pepcid falls in this category)
~appitite stimulant (new med called mirtazapine (remeron) works well for cats)
~ antioxidants (vitamin E ~water-dispersible form preferred and vitamin C ~non-acidic Ester-C form preferred)
~ liver support (milk thistle, denosyl, or marin)
~ vit b-12 injections(especially if bowel involved)
~ +/- pancreatic digestive enzymes (to 'predigest' food, however some controversy in vet med on whether or not to use these)
~ +/- antibiotics if indicated
~ +/- steroids if needed

can all be used to help the cat through the flare up. your vet can work up a treatment plan for managing your cat's CP flare up attacks.

the veterinary community is still undecided on the issue of fat content of food and whether or not it is something to be considered in feline CP. it is very much an issue in human or canine CP, however felines are very unique in how they utilize the fats (and protein) in their diets. anecdotally, some owners find that lowering the fat content (to about 35% or less) of their CP diabetic cat's diet even though it means they have to raise the carbs helps. ECID, you would have to experiment on that yourself. just a reminder on the topic of food..as a CP flare up begins cats will eat less in the days leading up to it and often not eat at all when the attack is in full force, know that it does not take many days of reduced calorie intake to make hepatic lipadosis possibly rear its ugly head, especially in a liver already compromised.

cats that are simply diabetic with no other condition going on should not need pepcid ever...if you are reaching for the pepcid again, maybe reach for the phone and call your vet instead and discuss the possibility that your diabetic cat might be one in that 40%.

links for those that wish to read about CP further:

http://books.google.com/books?id=to...onepage&q=feline chronic pancreatitis&f=false

http://www.vin.com/proceedings/Proceedings.plx?CID=WSAVA2003&PID=6623&Category=1004&O=Generic



here's a CP treatment update from Indexx: http://www.idexx.com/pubwebresource...pec-fpl-treatment-for-feline-pancreatitis.pdf


hope this helps...
 
Yay! I'm so glad that you have a diagnosis, that Tableau is eating and that you'll get to take him home tonight! I'm sure that he'll be happier with you than at the vetty! Hugs and patience being sent your way!
 
Nice report on Tableau that he is eating, good sign. So sorry about the diagnosis but now you know why he was so sick. Sending positive thoughts and prayers.
 
Great news that he is eating!! Tarragon had acute pancreatitis a few weeks ago. Hopefully they are sending home anti nausea meds, painkillers, and fluids. So glad you got an answer!!
 
Thank you so much for the well wishes, support, and links to additional information. I assure you I will be studying up this weekend.

Off to pick up Tableau and bring him home. Will give a better report later.

Take care
Emily
 
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