9/20 Shanti AMP 369 +6 154 +8 192 PMP 313

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Marje posted to me last night that Veraflox is for skin infection or respiratory. I called my vet yesterday after I picked it up because I had seem that in the insert with the Veraflox, she said it was a broad spectrum and also not likely to cause side effects. Shanti can't take metronidazole because it really makes him sick. I looked through my vet records and do not see clavamox but for some reason it sounds familiar and I am wondering if I didn't add it to his folder for some reason.
Shanti had denemarin, cenenia. and veraflox this morning besides his normal prednisolone, now he is acting sort of down. He had eaten pretty well this morning and besides the denemarin he had food with the other meds. The dememarin is to be given on an emypy stomach. Wonder if these have just put him a little off.
Yesterday he had these but he seemed better, of course they were not all given at the same time because I had to wait on the denemarin until he hadn't eaten in over an hour or more.
I felt so upbeat last night but today not so much. Seems as though Shantis moods are driving my own, I just hate to see him acting like he doesn't feel well.

Having a problem getting him to eat, The vet had given me some prescription food Royal Canin hyperallengenic, selectd protein. He ate some of that but I don't think that is good for him for more than a meal or two. But I am wondering if I should pick up a few cans from the vet just in case he won't eat his regular food.
What does anyone think?
 
Re: 9/20 Shanti AMP 369 Meds making Shanti sad

I think the disease might be the cause of not feeling well. I bet after a few more days of the meds he will be more like himself. I hope so. Vines to Shanti and :YMHUG: :YMHUG: to you.
 
Re: 9/20 Shanti AMP 369 Meds making Shanti sad

It's hard not to be affected by our kitties' moods. They're our children, and we want to see them feeling well.

I did see your post in Health yesterday. It's so difficult to make those types of decisions for our kitties. I've had to do it twice in my lifetime; they were the most difficult decisions I have ever made. I think Julie is right. You just have to take one day at a time. It can take our kitties time to heal, even though we want to see results overnight. (Believe me - I understand that desire completely. I'm the most impatient person in the world.) If you get to the point where you have to make the decision, your heart will tell you it's time.

:YMHUG: :YMHUG: :YMHUG:
 
Re: 9/20 Shanti AMP 369 +6 154 Shanti not eating much

Can someone tell me how to get my post to move up, I clicked on the original one, did edit and changed the heading, added a little to the message then submitted but ended up still down the list.
 
Re: 9/20 Shanti AMP 369 +6 154 Shanti not eating much

okay this time it moved up, by posting an answer.
I wanted to find out if I should get a couple cans of the prescription food the vet gave me because Shanti is not eating well and he did eat some of that. I have the kind added on the my first post this morning.
 
Re: 9/20 Shanti AMP 369 +6 154 Shanti not eating much

I am really surprised that the mirtazapine is not having a better effect on shanti's appy. It is best to give her anything that she will eat. Hope her appy gets better.
 
Re: 9/20 Shanti AMP 369 +6 154 Shanti not eating much

I could be wrong, suspect he's not eating because he's nauseous, and then it starts to become a vicious cycle...he's not eating because he's nauseated, and he becomes nauseated from not eating. Cerenia or ondansetron are for nausea; every kitty is different, so what works best for each can differ. My Trix does better on Cerenia (which she gets every other day), but I know others here prefer ondansetron. Since Shanti had the cerenia today and is still not eating much, maybe the onda is a better choice for him.

Also, as I learned from my experiences with Trix, it CAN take a while for the anti-nausea meds to REALLY kick in.

Tempting Shanti with something he enjoys is certainly a good idea!
 
Re: 9/20 Shanti AMP 369 +6 154 +8 192 Mood picking up

I never would have thought he would eat the prescription food but he did. So far about a half a can and I picked up three more. He seems a little more bright eyed but no purring when I head butt which is his norm.
This morning he ate well, then he had the antibiotic. Just before that it was pred, and cenenia. 1 1/2 hours earlier the denemarin. I think the antibiotic was the culprit, maybe just the taste set him off. Also since he had that after eating regular food he may be associating the food with that. He has to get back on his food for his bowels sake.
So up and down.
I am hoping after his ultrasound we can really get an idea what to do, providing there is something we can do. Just did a +8 192, must be the food helped.
 
Re: 9/20 Shanti AMP 369 +6 154 +8 192 Mood picking up

ABs can be so rough on our kitties' bellies. I'm glad he ate and his mood is picking up. I hope he feels better as the evening progresses!!!
 
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What antibiotic are you giving him? ABs can cause nausea and/or GI problems. Many kitties get diarrhea from ABs so they tend to feel pretty pinky. A probiotic may help. FortiFlora has the advantage of being like kitty crack for some cats when it comes to getting them to eat.

If the pill tastes bad, there are a couple of options. You can coat the pill with butter. That way, there's a coating on the pill. (The downside is that it's slippery!) Alternatively, you can get empty gelatin capsules at a pharmacy or here and put the pill in the capsule. That way, there's no fast.
 
Re: 9/20 Shanti AMP 369 +6 154 +8 192 Mood picking up

Mirtazapine doesn't work for all cats. I have better luck with cyproheptadine and am more comfortable using it fir many reasons. It is an inexpensive human drug and a prescription is needed for it. I get 4 mg pills and just a sliver gets Max eating.
 
Re: 9/20 Shanti AMP 369 +6 154 +8 192 Mood picking up

Shanti off Baytril on Veraflox. See first posting of the day.
 
Re: 9/20 Shanti AMP 369 +6 154 +8 192 Mood picking up

I see your subject line that his mood has picked up - that's good.

some cats love parmesan cheese sprinkled on - you could try that. if a cat isn't wanting to eat, in general we say that whatever gets a cat to eat is ok to feed them, even if it's high carb food. they have to keep eating. If the RC is working, then that's great, regardless of how many carbs it is.
 
I tried parm on his normal food earlier, he did lick it but only enough to get the cheese. Ate some of the prescription this evening. First I tried his normal food but no deal. He ate about 1/3 his normal amount but I will work on some more before I go to bed.

Thought I posted about Veraflox before, I looked it up and it is a broad spectrum antibiotic. Said the highest concentrations of the Veraflox went to the bladder, kidney, Liver, and pancreas' Sounds like it could work for him, if he can tolerate it. Yesterday it didn't seem to bother him but today something did. He'll get his cenenia again and at noon the appetite stimulant. I hope it is a better day for him. he is just not himself, no purrs when we head butt.
I'll check in again tomorrow, hopefully with some good news.
Glad to have this support, I am more than a little frazzled.
 
it is a frazzling disease. His blood sugar looked better today though, and he may need a little time to let the AB do it's work. We had great luck with cerenia when punkin was nauseated, but if you don't think it's working by Monday, you might want to try the ondansetron, as Amy suggested.

It's important to deal with the nausea issue as well as the lack of appy issue. If you just give an appetite stimulant when the kitty is nauseated, it's like having the flu and being starving anyway. Elise's idea about the cypro if the mirtz doesn't work is another good one.

i hope tomorrow is a better day for both of you! cat_pet_icon

sleep well.
 
Saoirse is taking cyproheptadine for appetite stimulation. It works well for her on a tiny dose and it also seems to elevate her mood and she seems physically more comfortable when it's active in her system. Maybe it might help Shanti?
 
so hope Shanti will start to feel better soon. it is so hard when they are sick. sending healing and hugs to you both.
:YMHUG: :YMHUG:
 
Marlene

I'm sorry Shanti is not feeling well. I would think it is the a/b. I Google very flow again and the insert from Bayer states:

is approved for the treatment of skin infections (wounds and abscesses) in cats caused by susceptible strains of Pasteurella multocida, Streptococcus canis, Streptococcus aureus, Staphylococcus felis
Click to expand...

I could not find anywhere that it could be used for other than skin infections but I did see in one place it is broad spectrum. Of course, a lot of things are used off label but it's important to match the a/b to the problem.

When it comes to a sick cat, my philosophy is the best food for them is the one they will eat. When they are eating steady and feeling better, you can gradually love them on to other food. It's just like we tell caregivers whose cats have DKA and or fatty liver disease....we don't care if you feed them ice cream sundaes as long as they eat. We can always adjust the insulin dose.

It took us a couple years really before we learned to age Gracie's numbers more in stride and not let every number determine our mood. Hard to do but you'll feel better when you csn take it more in stride.
 
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