9/17 Doodle AMPS = 320

[Michelle and Doodle]

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Well this is just crazy... I mean, seriously - it's not even a real dose. :roll:
9/16
amps - 201 - 0.025u
+3 ---- 224
+8 ---- 62
pmps ---115 - 0.025
+2 ------ 144
+4 ------ 89 - hc
+6 ------ 39 - hc
+6.5 ---- 50
+8 ------- 50 - hc
9/17 -- amps = 320 - 0.025u

The vet said to discontinue the clavamox and bring him back in an about 5 days so we could make sure everything was clear - He had 7 days of abx so we're hoping that was enough. And as far as the higher numbers - yeeeeaahhh... I'm thinking bounce.
But you guys this is really an easy dose to measure - and I don't even need my magnifying glass so much -- it's just an empty syringe and a full needle - kwim?

 

[Libby and Lucy]

What do you think about trying a little experiment? Sometimes cats on low doses will bounce because of the insulin, not in spite of it. Let’s see how well Doodle’s pancreas is working.

I suspect this bounce will clear quickly. If he’s at a reasonable number tonight, let’s try no insulin. Feed small meals and test 3-4 hours after a meal. We want to see if he bounces as much without insulin, and if he does, we want to see if he can bring himself down.

The hard part (for me too!) is that we need to give Doodle at least 48-72 hours to see how his numbers settle out before deciding to give insulin again. I’m not good AT ALL at sitting on my hands and I suspect you’re not either, but Jill will keep an eye on things to slow us down. ;-)

It’s not an OTJ trial, it’s an experiment to see what happens. Jill and I are in agreement that this a good next step. Questions?

 

[Fleapunk]

MICHELLE AND DOODLE!

OOoooohhh, I read there might be an experiment up in here. Me'n Punk are gettin our lab coats ready!!

 

[Michelle and Doodle]

I’m not good AT ALL at sitting on my hands and I suspect you’re not either,

:lol: :lol: :lol: do ya now? why oh why would you suspect thaaaat? :lol:

but Jill will keep an eye on things to slow us down. ;-)

Ok Jillybean keep your foot on the break sweetie


I'm game. And curious myself. No questions I don't suppose.
~eeek!

 

[Michelle and Doodle]

MICHELLE AND DOODLE!

OOoooohhh, I read there might be an experiment up in here. Me'n Punk are gettin our lab coats ready!!

Yay! Glad to have you and Professor Punkeinstein on board!!

 

[Jill & Alex (GA)]

Ok Jillybean keep your foot on the break sweetie

ha! foot is firmly planted on the brake and we haven't even started yet! jojo counted on me. you can, too.

there's no doubt, you'll see some numbers that'll have you running for a syringe. ignore them. it's normal. we've even seen some kitties bounce off themselves without any insulin on board! how weird is that!

doodle does look like he's bouncing. this experiment will give us an idea of what he can do on his own.
strap on your seatbelt. this could be a wild ride!

 

[WCF and Meowzi]

we've even seen some kitties bounce off themselves without any insulin on board! how weird is that!

are we talking about cyrano? i think i may still have a chart of his curve - sans insulin - somewhere.

 

[Michelle and Doodle]

+6 =259

Hey, I remember Cyrano ...
I guess that's one of the benefits of being an oldtimer - at least I sorta know what kind of crazy we could be looking forward to. :-|

I guess I'm as ready as i'll ever be... (((Doodle)))

 

[Anne&Muffin (GA)]

Woo Hoo! An experiment! I'll bring the popcorn! Umm..is it ok to have popcorn in the lab?

 

[Libby and Lucy]

woo-hoooooo, let's see what kind of a ride Doodle will be taking us on!!! I have absolutely no idea what to expect, this could be fun. :mrgreen:

What are you going to do this weekend, since you won't have to be home to poke the cat? It's been a long time since you have had a day off, I hope you can go out and play.

 

[Jen and Oreo (GA)]

Ooooh, I like experiments too!! I'll be watchin' verra closely :mrgreen:

 

[Jill & Alex (GA)]

we've even seen some kitties bounce off themselves without any insulin on board! how weird is that!

are we talking about cyrano? i think i may still have a chart of his curve - sans insulin - somewhere.

i hope you still have a copy of the curve you charted. it was really sumthin' to see... sans insulin!

 

[Sienne and Gabby (GA)]

I wanna see this 'speriment too.

 

[Miriam and Putty (GA)]

Oooh....a Doodlement....I love it.
What's his number now.....how bout now....anything yet. :mrgreen:

 

[Michelle and Doodle]

:lol: Miriam -- he's still 254 @ +8

Libby, it has been a long time... maybe I'll just clean the bunny's patio though, because i don't think I'll be able to leave the house and not test him

 

[WCF and Meowzi]

i hope you still have a copy of the curve you charted. it was really sumthin' to see... sans insulin!

ask, and ye shall receive :mrgreen:

that lowest dip was to 48, at sometime before +60.

michelle, you may need to explain to doodle that this is by no means a challenge, and that he does not have to rise (pun intended!) to the non-challenge ;-)

 

[Linda and Bear Man]

I guess that's one of the benefits of being an oldtimer - at least I sorta know what kind of crazy we could be looking forward to. :-|

I guess I'm as ready as i'll ever be... (((Doodle)))

Oh, this is going to be a good one. Go Doodle!

 

[Libby and Lucy]

so what's the PM number? Do we get to start 'sperimenting tonight? :mrgreen:

 

[Jill & Alex (GA)]

i hope you still have a copy of the curve you charted. it was really sumthin' to see... sans insulin!

ask, and ye shall receive :mrgreen:

that lowest dip was to 48, at sometime before +60.

michelle, you may need to explain to doodle that this is by no means a challenge, and that he does not have to rise (pun intended!) to the non-challenge ;-)

thank you choy-foong!
cyrano's (no insulin) curve is amazing...

 

[Michelle and Doodle]

+12 = 383 --- blech!

I'm not even going to show that curve to Doodle! There's no way I'm going to risk bringing out his competitive nature!

Just so you know I'm not exactly liking this already :-|

 

[Libby and Lucy]

well, personally I would wait until he's lower to start the experiment. And I did run that past Jill and she agreed, though she did tell me that she thought I was going to have a harder time sitting on my hands than you are during this little project. :lol:

 

[Jill & Alex (GA)]

+12 383

i'm with libby. start the trial when doodle is lower. we know he will go lower. :mrgreen:

 

[Michelle and Doodle]

yeah, he's 460. right now - I'm not liking that.
I'm worried about what constant highs could do to his already trashed kidneys...
I'm going to go give him a shot.

 

[Libby and Lucy]

go for it. Maybe he'll let us start tomorrow.

 

[Michelle and Doodle]

okay done. I'm sure we'll both feel better soon.