? - 9/16; Henri PMPS 97, +1 94, 89@ +1.5, +2 77, 97@2.5, +3 98, 100@3.5, +4 116, 127@4.5, +5 118, 120@5 | Feline Diabetes Message Board - FDMB

? 9/16; Henri PMPS 97, +1 94, 89@ +1.5, +2 77, 97@2.5, +3 98, 100@3.5, +4 116, 127@4.5, +5 118, 120@5

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I hope she comes up a little for you before PMPS. Nice to that bounce broken.
 
Ah...Ok, I didn't realize...thanks!

How can you tell that the bounce is broken? last time she ranged from red to blue all in 1 cycle.
 
Her numbers are still dropping. 90@11.5

when it comes to stalling, I'm not sure exactly what that entails.
I think I want to see that her numbers are on their way up without the influence of food before I shoot? How long is acceptable to stall for and at what point do i jump in there and use food to affect her numbers
 
If you stall, you dint feed, and retest in 20 minutes to see if the bg is coming up on its own which often happens at the end of the cycle. The reason you don’t feed is that you want to make sure the result is not food influenced.
 
tiffmaxee said:
If you stall, you dint feed, and retest in 20 minutes to see if the bg is coming up on its own which often happens at the end of the cycle. The reason you don’t feed is that you want to make sure the result is not food influenced.
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so if her shot time is at 7pm, I wouldn't feed and i would test again at 7:20, and again at 7:40...how long is it acceptable to do this?
Do I just keep doing this until she reaches 50 and then use food as an intervention to bring her back up?
 
There is nothing with shooting a dropping number, if you are prepared for it. The danger with stalling is that without food they'll continue to fall without food in them. A stall involved, not feeding, and waiting and retesting.
 
Here’s the thing. She’s clearing a bounce and will likely keep going down without food. You can shoot on time but you could need to be up for hours, you can skip, or shoot a 1/4 or 1/2 dose.
 
I can be home with her to test her as often as she needs. right now she's in the 80's. I thought I wasn't supposed to shoot anything under 150?

I guess I'm not really understanding what comes next
 
tiffmaxee said:
Here’s the thing. She’s clearing a bounce and will likely keep going down without food. You can shoot on time but you could need to be up for hours, you can skip, or shoot a 1/4 or 1/2 dose.
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So her dose is .75 U right now. What should I shoot. it's between .25 and .5
 
It’s up to you as to whether you shoot your lowest preshot. Shoot low to stay low is what generally happens.
 
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Wendy&Neko said:
There is nothing with shooting a dropping number, if you are prepared for it. The danger with stalling is that without food they'll continue to fall without food in them. A stall involved, not feeding, and waiting and retesting.
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I'm prepared to shoot at a low dose but what should I shoot and should I shoot at normal time
 
You can shoot the full dose at your normal time. Or yO
Katie_Waz said:
and then with shooting low, I still won't use HC food unless she drops below 50
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u can shoot a reduced dose but there’s no guarantee she still won’t drop either way.
Correct unless you want to abort the cycle and bring her up quickly. The longer you wait the lower she will be most likely.
 
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tiffmaxee said:
You can shoot the full dose at your normal time. Or yO


u can shoot a reduced dose but there’s no guarantee she still won’t drop either way.
Correct unless you want to abort the cycle and bring her up quickly. The longer you wait tge lower she will be most likely.
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She just went back up to 97. If I do a stall, what number am I stalling until bc it seems like she is on her way back up now.
and when I reach that number should I resume her normal .75 U?
 
If you do it I will stay with you. You would start by feeding and shooting and then getting a +1 and +2.
 
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Your welcome. Please do look at how Susanne has been steering Jax with food. She writes everything down. It will be helpful for you.
 
Thanks! I'll check it out!
Henri is up. her +0.6 is 94 and that's with her normal LC meal.
Should I feed her what she normally eats...(amount wise) at this meal?
 
Yes. Just don’t overfeed her in case you need to guide her with food. Maybe a little less than usual.
 
yes, at .6 and and at 1. I never took my cursor out of the box so it hadn't saved yet. I'll make sure I stay light on the food...thank you!
 
Glad you shot! Our saying here is shoot low to stay low.:D I'm glad Elise was around to help
Katie_Waz said:
I thought I wasn't supposed to shoot anything under 150?
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Just a point of clarification. For people following TR, below 150 for the first few times, we ask that you do not feed and post for help if you want it.
 
definitely, yeah I wasn't really sure what to do. I didn't realize there were 2 options. Up until this point I had only ever heard of stalling. I'm feeding her small amounts every 20-30 min. her +1 dropped down to 77.

Is there anyway to tell what kind of a day tomorrow will be? I'm considering calling out to work in the morning. My husband wont be home until the afternoon bc of a few appointments he has
 
Katie_Waz said:
definitely, yeah I wasn't really sure what to do. I didn't realize there were 2 options. Up until this point I had only ever heard of stalling. I'm feeding her small amounts every 20-30 min. her +1 dropped down to 77.

Is there anyway to tell what kind of a day tomorrow will be? I'm considering calling out to work in the morning. My husband wont be home until the afternoon bc of a few appointments he has
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There’s no way at this point to predict what will happen tonight let alone tomorrow.
 
tiffmaxee said:
It says +1 is 94 above???
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her +1 94 is just a little lower than her PMPS of 97 but there were some tests in between that were up and down.

Should I limit the amount of MC food I give? I have one that is 13%

PMPS 97
+0.3 83
+0.6 94
+1 94
+1.5 89
+2 22
 
We don’t want her dropping much more so early. I’d give a couple teaspoons of 13%. Lc is 10% and under so it’s not too high.
 
she's now 97 at 2.5 I haven't done the MC food yet bc I had just fed her, If she's down again at +3 I'll do some MC food..how much should I do. it's 13%
 
tiffmaxee said:
We don’t want her dropping much more so early. I’d give a couple teaspoons of 13%. Lc is 10% and under so it’s not too high.
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ah..ok, I didn't realize. I'll have to try to pick up some 10% tomorrow

What is a good number to get her to and stabilized at this early in the cycle?
 
Don’t get too hung up on carb percents. Some cats are carb sensitive and others aren’t. We are relying on the manufacturer’s info. It’s not exact.
 
tiffmaxee said:
Don’t get too hung up on carb percents. Some cats are carb sensitive and others aren’t. We are relying on the manufacturer’s info. It’s not exact.
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very true. So being that the last 2 times she ate, she actually ate a much better amount, should I hold off on feeding, see what she is at +3, and as long as she doesn't go down anymore hold off on the food? She a=has still only had LC food bc the next time I would feed her would be in 15 min.
I think (if I remember correctly) when I see increasing or stable numbers for 2 hours without the influence of food shes safe?
 
I think you will need to keep feeding her small amounts until possibly +5-7. You want to make sure he’s hit nadir and coming up enough. We are going to have to take this test by test.
 
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