9/12 Michael AMPS 396 +2.25 435 + 6 384 pm 312+2 339+3 288

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Paula

Paula

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Good morning everyone,
Could you please look at M's SS and give me an example of what a nadir # is :?: I know it is the lowest point in a cycle, but some of the #'s are really high and its hard for me to tell if that is the lowest point. I can't always test often, but I do try to get in 1 test in each cycle, making the minimum requirement of 4 tests a day.

Thanks,
Paula :smile:
 
Re: 9/12 Michael AMPS 396 +3 435 Nadir Question

another question.
Could giving treats (purbites freeze dried chicken/turkey) befofe I test, make the #'s rise :?:
(Amps 396 +3 435)
Thanks in advance,
Paula :smile:
 
Re: 9/12 Michael AMPS 396 +3 435 Nadir Question

You Dont really have enough testing to pin point nadir, it can occur between +5 to +7, so when able I would get some consecutive test at +5, +6, and +7.
Your amps 396 is basically the same as +3 435 with the +/- of 20% range.
Michael is still in a bounce, this morning cycle is 5th cycle of the bounce with a potential lasting 6 cycles.
 
Re: 9/12 Michael AMPS 396 +3 435 Nadir Question

The more spots you have filled in, the better it is to see what is happening.
 
Re: 9/12 Michael AMPS 396 +3 435 Nadir Question

Are there any days where you can test every 2hrs from amps to your bed time? This would be a curve.
 
Re: 9/12 Michael AMPS 396 +3 435 Nadir Question

Another reason to pinpoint his nadir is lantus dosing is based on nadir.
So once we can establish Michaels nadir , then future testing would resume to something like amps, +2(to gage activity of cycle), +time frame of nadir.
 
Re: 9/12 Michael AMPS 396 +3 435 Nadir Question

Darin,
I'm still confused. :? On 9/8 amps +2 was 292 +6 was 331 so Technically, what would the nadir be 292 or
331:?: Given these two #'s what would you base the dose on if I was going to dosecrease? +2 or +6 :?:
 
Re: 9/12 Michael AMPS 396 +3 435 Nadir Question

Am 9/5 would be better to look at since 9/8 is bouncing numbers and are all basically the same number.
Looking at 9/5 the nadir would be approximately +5, if it would have been me I would have tested a +6 on that day.
I Dont believe a dose increase should be made during a bounce. Cause the bounce numbers are not his true numbers, and there is not much cycle action during a bounce.
 
Re: 9/12 Michael AMPS 396 +3 435 Nadir Question

And at +2 the lantus has not even started to work. The nadir is when the lantus peaks (+5 to +7) so that is where you want to look for nadir.
 
Re: 9/12 Michael AMPS 396 +3 435 Nadir Question

You would want to do a curve or the +5, +6, and +7 on a non-bouncing cycle.
I will try and covert my SS into a graph With notes depicting food spikes, Bounces and nadirs. Seeing the cycles in graph may make it easier to understand bouncing, a typical lantus cycle, and nadir.
I should be able to do that this evening.
 
Re: 9/12 Michael AMPS 396 +3 435 Nadir Question

Hi there :cool:

I agree with Darin - you don't have enough data .

It's great that you are getting the minimum requirement of 1 mid-cycle test for each cycle - I know testing is difficult for you.
Keep in mind - the more testing you can do the better - it will reveal the answers to many of your questions.

Start with adding 1 more test to your routine and think about testing at a +hour that has not had any testing done for a while and needs data.
Also, when you see potential for a downward trend, be very strategic with testing. both AM and PM cycles.
For example 09/09/PM -If When you see a cycle like that again, in addition to you regular before bed test try to get up early the next morning and grab a +10 or +11
it would go a long way toward filling in the picture and increasing your knowledge of how Michael responds on the overnights. It's a big unknown right now.
In general try to sprinkle your tests around various +hours from day to day. That way you won't create any 'wide open spaces' on his ss and ultimately a better picture will emerge.

The results of stepping up your testing with even 1 additional test per day combined with being a bit more strategic about where best to place mid cycle tests will speak volumes.
and possibly lead to more testing - it can be addictive ;-)
 
Re: 9/12 Michael AMPS 396 +2.25 435 + 6 384 PMPS 312

Maybe Michael is starting to clear his bounce :?: (PMPS 312) Pink is getting stinkyer & stinkyer :!: Blue would be nice.
 
Re: 9/12 Michael AMPS 396 +2.25 435 + 6 384 PMPS 312

paula, he very well could be clearing his bounce, tonights cycle is #6 of bounce. Get a +2 to see how active this cycle is going to be, if +2 is less then pmps, more testing will be required. Seeing on your spreadsheet 9/5 am cycle 1u amps of 298 (clearing a bounce) brought him to 51 @5.25 and you are kinda sitting in the same boat tonight. Knowing this, testing may be very important tonight.
 
Re: 9/12 Michael AMPS 396 +2.25 435 + 6 384 PMPS 312 +2 339

Thanks. very good info.
Michael is on his way up. (pmps 312 +2 339) He sure is stuck on that awful stinky pink :?: This is driving me crazy :roll:
 
Re: 9/12 Michael AMPS 396 +2.25 435 + 6 384 PMPS 312 +2 339

That 312 and the 339 are essentially the same number, i would get a +3 or atleast a before bed test.
 
Re: 9/12 Michael AMPS 396 +2.25 435 + 6 384 pm 312+2 339+3

Michael finally is tired of pink. (I hope) PMPS 312 +2 339+ 3 288 He is trying yellow. Hope he never goes back to pink :!:
 
Re: 9/12 Michael AMPS 396 +2.25 435 + 6 384 pm 312+2 339+3

bounce definitely clearing. i have a feeling that Micheal give you a blue amps.
Have a good night.
 
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