? 8/3 Callie vomiting yesterday and today. Now today diarrhea.

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Glennie

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Sammy has had diarrhea also, and now Callie has it along with vomiting. Cerenia is wonderful and thanks to the gel caps, we had no frothing at the mouth. (Thank you, thank you!) So she had 1/4 tab Cerenia yesterday and now just a few mintues ago I gave her another 1/4 tab. But now with the diarrhea I don't know whether to feed her or take her off food for 12 hours to give her digestive system a break. And of course, no food means no shot. Any ideas?
 
She is miserable. I'm going to give her some time and then test her, and then I'll make a decision.
 
Marvin's Mom - Nat said:
I am sorry Callie isn't feeling well. Not sure what to say. Hoping someone with more experience will take a look. Not liking that she is throwing up and has diarrhea.
think I saw @rhiannon and shadow (GA) earlier, @Kris & Teasel they may have some ideas.
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Thank you, Nat!
Kris & Teasel said:
You could try no food for 12 hours (no shot of course) - no worse than having a fur shot.
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Thanks, Kris. I'm going to test her now and see what I think. Appreciate your input. I'm thinking no food for 12 hours. Sammy isn't vomiting, but he still has the diarrhea so I guess no food for him. I'll pretend it's a FS so I don't feel so awful.

Yesterday in the middle of all of this I was trying to save a baby bird.

Scratch that...I'm not even going to bother her. She's hiding all hunched over. I'll just keep a really close eye on her. Do cats get the stomach flu? Okay scratch that--she came out from hiding under the bed and looks a bit better. Maybe the nausea has eased. :):cat:
 
Glennie said:
Thank you, Nat!

Thanks, Kris. I'm going to test her now and see what I think. Appreciate your input. I'm thinking no food for 12 hours. Sammy isn't vomiting, but he still has the diarrhea so I guess no food for him. I'll pretend it's a FS so I don't feel so awful.

Yesterday in the middle of all of this I was trying to save a baby bird.

Scratch that...I'm not even going to bother her. She's hiding all hunched over. I'll just keep a really close eye on her. Do cats get the stomach flu? Okay scratch that--she came out from hiding under the bed and looks a bit better. Maybe the nausea has eased. :):cat:
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They can get GI bugs of one sort or another. The fact that you have two with tummy troubles suggests something like that. With an FD kitty you have to keep an extra close eye of course because dehydration, no insulin and not eating can be a risky mix. If a food break doesn't help by this evening or tomorrow AM, it's vetty time.
 
Kris & Teasel said:
They can get GI bugs of one sort or another. The fact that you have two with tummy troubles suggests something like that. With an FD kitty you have to keep an extra close eye of course because dehydration, no insulin and not eating can be a risky mix. If a food break doesn't help by this evening or tomorrow AM, it's vetty time.
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I was only withholding food because of the diarrhea. I hate not feeding anything that's hungry. Any other ideas for help with diarrhea?
 
tiffmaxee said:
I agree with Rhiannon. I wouldn't withhold food for 12 hours. It's never a good idea for cats. I'd also call the vet.
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Yeah, vet call will be soon. I just had Sammy in there for his weight loss, and the vet humored me with doing tests, but I think he thinks I'm a bit over the top, especially since all tests came back normal. I know it shouldn't matter, and it won't if I need to take her in, but I am kind of dreading the call and the visit. I care way too much about what people think. So you think baby food also?
 
Sorry I couldn't type more earlier. I was popping in quickly from work. Plain pumpkin mixed in food may help. I just mix a teaspoon in Furball's food and she eats it.
 
Thanks, Carla, but she hasn't eaten pumpkin in the past when I've tried. Although maybe with her being hungry and really wanting to eat, she'll eat it now. I'll go try. So pumpkin is both for constipation and diarrhea?
 
carfurby said:
Sorry I couldn't type more earlier. I was popping in quickly from work. Plain pumpkin mixed in food may help. I just mix a teaspoon in Furball's food and she eats it.
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Thanks for taking time from work to pop in. I had to go to the store. Those beseeching eyes are breaking my heart along with the yowling. So I'll go give it a shot. She has pooed 8 times today.
 
Okay, she surprised me and ate some chicken baby food with the pumpkin. She didn't eat a whole teaspoonful, but she did get some of it. Sammy ate some also plus I gave Sammy some probiotic I just picked up. So I hope that helps both of them.
Thanks so much.
 
rhiannon and shadow (GA) said:
I do not know the carb value on this one but I feed it to my two young un's once a day.

https://www.chewy.com/wellness-trufood-tasty-pairings/dp/115410
https://www.chewy.com/wellness-trufood-tasty-pairings/dp/115410
they also have a pumpkin and beef.....

there is potato starch but it didn't affect Shadow .
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Thanks so much for the suggestion and the site. I wrote it down, and when we're in Denver tomorrow, I'll stop at some of the bigger pet stores and see if they have it. I'll pick up a few trays and give them a try. I appreciate your help today. Testing time, supper and shot time are coming up so I'm hoping it's going to go well. She's been feeling so good the last week or so and now this. Thanks again!
 
Hey Glennie, I am so sorry that you have 2 babies not feeling well. It makes me wonder if they are eating the same food if they could have gotten something tainted? Or as Kris suggested a virus they are sharing.

Bubba will usually eat baby food when he doesn't feel well.

Hope you get some answers ASAP.
 
Bobbie And Bubba said:
Hey Glennie, I am so sorry that you have 2 babies not feeling well. It makes me wonder if they are eating the same food if they could have gotten something tainted? Or as Kris suggested a virus they are sharing.

Bubba will usually eat baby food when he doesn't feel well.

Hope you get some answers ASAP.
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Thanks, Bobbie. I appreciate it. Callie ate tonight, and I was able to give her insulin. The food is staying down, but she did have the diarrhea again. She wouldn't eat anymore baby food or pumpkin, but she ate FF Savory Salmon (usually her favorite). I'm going to try to syringe some pumpkin in tonight before bed, but I'm worried that she may vomit.

Kris mentioned the virus (as you said), and I've been wondering about that or the food. The other 4 cats are still okay, and I'm hoping they stay that way.

How is your Bubba boy doing? Still enjoying the great outdoors? He's so gorgeous. Always makes me think of my Zeke. Thanks again for chiming in. :bighug:
 
Kris & Teasel said:
They can get GI bugs of one sort or another. The fact that you have two with tummy troubles suggests something like that. With an FD kitty you have to keep an extra close eye of course because dehydration, no insulin and not eating can be a risky mix. If a food break doesn't help by this evening or tomorrow AM, it's vetty time.
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Kris & Teasel said:
They can get GI bugs of one sort or another. The fact that you have two with tummy troubles suggests something like that. With an FD kitty you have to keep an extra close eye of course because dehydration, no insulin and not eating can be a risky mix. If a food break doesn't help by this evening or tomorrow AM, it's vetty time.
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It might be vetty time as you said Kris. If she is still going in the morning, I'll call to see if they have any suggestions. For now, I'll try some more pumpkin. Thanks!
 
Sorry I wasn't around to answer you about baby food but I'm glad that you gave her some. When you wrote her labs were normal itmade me wonder if he tested for pancreatitis. The reason why withho,ding food is not good for cats is because they can so easily develop fatty liver. So it's better to feed small amounts of food more often and baby food is a good choice. If the pumpkin doesn't help I'd ask your vet what he thought now about a round of flagyl (metronidazole) . I hope the pumpkin helps.
 
tiffmaxee said:
Sorry I wasn't around to answer you about baby food but I'm glad that you gave her some. When you wrote her labs were normal itmade me wonder if he tested for pancreatitis. The reason why withho,ding food is not good for cats is because they can so easily develop fatty liver. So it's better to feed small amounts of food more often and baby food is a good choice. If the pumpkin doesn't help I'd ask your vet what he thought now about a round of flagyl (metronidazole) . I hope the pumpkin helps.
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Thanks, Elise. I just gave her about 3/4 tsp of pumpkin. I had to syringe it in and lost the other 1/4 tsp with her resisting. But she got quite a bit in. Maybe she'll develop a taste for it. She ate about 2 tsp of baby food. I also gave her another 1/4 tab of Cerenia in a gel cap for possible nausea. She is not food motivated unfortunately. When she's hungry she wants to eat, but using food as a motivator doesn't work on her.

She had two episodes of diarrhea during the night, but they were more formed than earlier, especially the 2nd time so I'm thinking the pumpkin is working. And then with what she had this morning....I'm hoping. If not, I will call about the Flagyl.

Thanks for reminding me about the fatty liver and the little meals.

I have 6 cats so it gets confusing, and I'm not really clear when I write, but the labs were for my civvie, Sammy. He's recently lost weight so I took him in for tests. All of his labs came back normal. I was wondering if the Miralax could be causing his weight loss. Maybe it would be better if I tried the pumpkin on him again. He really hates it though---fights with me and gags. I gave him some probiotics last night as someone suggested (sorry, don't remember who--everyone on here is so sweet with helpful hints), and I'm hoping that stops this bout of diarrhea (he seems better) and his chronic constipation. He very well might be losing weight because he is too busy to take the time to eat so I've been taking food outside for him.

Ah, the joys of kitty momdom! Thanks for your help! :bighug:
 
Latest here--another civvie, Lexi, has the diarrhea so I'll start her on pumpkin also. They're falling like dominoes...okay, a little exaggeration here, but still. Lexi hasn't had all of the same food as the others so I'm thinking its viral. ???
 
Another one bites the dust...Now Kinsey is vomiting and has the diarrhea. I wonder what this is. I can't take them all in. Starting the pumpkin right away. It's hard to know who is going what and where? (Sweet little Callie actually went to the catbox to vomit the other day. Thankfully she is over the vomiting.)
 
Tabitha has joined the sickies. She had colitis not long ago, and I'm hoping this doesn't start that up again. I gave her pumpkin and baby food and a much needed bath. Sammy is much better and actually had a normal poo. Callie seems to be pooing less and eating more. There's just one more to go. I'm hoping Jenny doesn't get it, but at this point, it's not looking good.

I'm bathing kitty butts, syringing pumpkin in and scooping poo out, trying to get baby food down them, cleaning up kitty vomit, dog and cat sitting for a friend, painting my daughter's desk before school, and helping my husband with yard work. Yay for leftovers! Needless to say, I haven't showered yet, and I stink. LOL
 
Sounds like you will need a vacation soon. I hope everything settles down, you may want to check with vet on monday if kitty army decides to take more sick days off.
 
sounds like a hard mom kind of day....

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Oh Glennie! You poor thing! Are all the cats eating the same diet? If so......wondering if something is off with the food. If not on the same diet, it could be a virus running through them. Have you tried Slippery Elm Bark (SEB) ?
 
Marvin's Mom - Nat said:
Sounds like you will need a vacation soon. I hope everything settles down, you may want to check with vet on monday if kitty army decides to take more sick days off.
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I think the diarrhea is lessening. This morning my daughter and I syringed probiotics and pumpkin into 5 of them, and I think most of them are getting better. We have one, Jenny, that hasn't succumbed to whatever this is, and we're hoping she can stay well.

Yeah, I think you're right. Callie vomited again this morning so I gave her another 1/4 tab Cerenia, and I am going to call the vet in the morning if she's not better. She is still able to eat after the Cerenia takes effect, but she seems off. And she may still have some diarrhea. Thanks, Nat!
 
Bobbie And Bubba said:
Oh Glennie! You poor thing! Are all the cats eating the same diet? If so......wondering if something is off with the food. If not on the same diet, it could be a virus running through them. Have you tried Slippery Elm Bark (SEB) ?
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They are all eating FF Classic pate, but they all eat different kinds. I also have YA out for grazing, but they don't all eat that. I've wondered that also. Wracking my brain--what's left of it.

I've never used Slippery Elm Bark. What does that do?

Today we did give them all 1/2 dissolved probiotic tab and 1 tsp pumpkin. And some of their poos are more formed but not all of them. I have an idea who's getting better but not sure.
Thanks, Bobbie! :cat::cat::cat::cat::cat::cat: That's from ALL of them. LOL
 
Glennie said:
They are all eating FF Classic pate, but they all eat different kinds. I also have YA out for grazing, but they don't all eat that. I've wondered that also. Wracking my brain--what's left of it.

I've never used Slippery Elm Bark. What does that do?

Today we did give them all 1/2 dissolved probiotic tab and 1 tsp pumpkin. And some of their poos are more formed but not all of them. I have an idea who's getting better but not sure.
Thanks, Bobbie! :cat::cat::cat::cat::cat::cat: That's from ALL of them. LOL
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Bobbie, hope things are going okay with your mom. I know how hard all of that is, both emotionally and physically. Thinking of you!
 
Glennie said:
I've never used Slippery Elm Bark. What does that do?
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SEB is wonderful for cats with diarrhea. It's very soothing in the digestive tract. I was able to put it right into Bubba's food without a problem, ------1/8 or 1/4 tsp per day sprinkled in food--it coats the digestive tract. But, others here make a slurry out of it.

I copied the below from someone's thread a while ago.

IBDkitties.net instructions for SEB

"When giving slippery elm bark, take a tablespoon of hot water and mix it with about 1/2 capsule of SEB powder. As it starts to cool, it will thicken. Sometimes you can add more powder and sometimes more water to get it to a thin enough consistency that you can fill a syringe. The easiest syringe to use is a 3ml, and fill completely. Then insert the syringe in the back corner of your cat’s mouth and let them drink it down. Just be sure to make it as thick as possible as it helps coat the lining of the GI tract, similar to Pepto Bismol. (NEVER use Pepto Bismol or Kaopectate). You can also use mix about 1/4 teaspoon of slippery elm bark powder with hot water for every 10 pounds of body weight. Mix well and let cool. They call it a “liquid band aid”. Slippery elm should be given at least two hours away from any other medications or supplements. 30 minutes isn’t long enough for the mucilagenous coating in the digestive tract to dilute enough to let absorption take place, mostly in the intestines.
Or sprinkle ¼ tsp of it into food. Use for a minimum of 3 days after symptoms of diarrhea and or vomiting are gone.

* Don't give SEB within 2 hours of other meds and it can interfere with the absorption of the med.
 
Bobbie And Bubba said:
SEB is wonderful for cats with diarrhea. It's very soothing in the digestive tract. I was able to put it right into Bubba's food without a problem, ------1/8 or 1/4 tsp per day sprinkled in food--it coats the digestive tract. But, others here make a slurry out of it.

I copied the below from someone's thread a while ago.

IBDkitties.net instructions for SEB

"When giving slippery elm bark, take a tablespoon of hot water and mix it with about 1/2 capsule of SEB powder. As it starts to cool, it will thicken. Sometimes you can add more powder and sometimes more water to get it to a thin enough consistency that you can fill a syringe. The easiest syringe to use is a 3ml, and fill completely. Then insert the syringe in the back corner of your cat’s mouth and let them drink it down. Just be sure to make it as thick as possible as it helps coat the lining of the GI tract, similar to Pepto Bismol. (NEVER use Pepto Bismol or Kaopectate). You can also use mix about 1/4 teaspoon of slippery elm bark powder with hot water for every 10 pounds of body weight. Mix well and let cool. They call it a “liquid band aid”. Slippery elm should be given at least two hours away from any other medications or supplements. 30 minutes isn’t long enough for the mucilagenous coating in the digestive tract to dilute enough to let absorption take place, mostly in the intestines.
Or sprinkle ¼ tsp of it into food. Use for a minimum of 3 days after symptoms of diarrhea and or vomiting are gone.

* Don't give SEB within 2 hours of other meds and it can interfere with the absorption of the med.
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Bobbie, thanks so much for taking the time to share this with me. I'm sure our health food store has it, and I'll pick some up this morning. I really appreciate it. I'll let you know how it goes. :bighug:
 
I second Bobbie's suggestion on SEB . It is my go to for all GI troubles . :) I mix it with water and syringe it down Elmo and my civvies routinely :). Prayers for healing over all your kitties :)
 
Beth 73 said:
I second Bobbie's suggestion on SEB . It is my go to for all GI troubles . :) I mix it with water and syringe it down Elmo and my civvies routinely :). Prayers for healing over all your kitties :)
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Thanks, Beth! It's good to know it works for you also. I'm going to get some today, and I'm also taking Callie to the vet this afternoon. The others are getting better, but Callie won't even eat enough to get her shot this am. She won't eat even after taking the Cerenia 2 1/2 hours ago. Jenny, the only one not yet sick, started vomiting this am. Hoping I get some answers at the vet. I really appreciate your input. Thanks!
 
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