8/29 TIgger AMPS 346 PMPS 374 +1=401 +2=367 +4=377
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julie & punkin (ga)
Member Since 2011
Re: 8/29 TIgger AMPS 346
oh my you were up early! it says 2:45am on my post!
just saying good morning! glad you've found something to give him a hand while he's getting stabilized.
oh my you were up early! it says 2:45am on my post!
just saying good morning! glad you've found something to give him a hand while he's getting stabilized.
hnkstr
Member Since 2011
Re: 8/29 TIgger AMPS 346
Well, today was the normal 4:25 wake up call. That's Central time
Still too damn early though! lol
Ok, due to having to work sunday I got the rest of the day off. So I got a mid cycle check again today, and its 386 and he is starved. Gave 3 decent sized chicken chunks. Didn't dent the hunger. So i gave him about 3 oz of Friskies. So, 386 at +6 with food = 400+ for PMPS.
I will be making a run to buy more Syringes and will Start the R today. Seems like a good day to start it. I will be dosing around 4pm and in bed by 9pm. Is that enough time to monitor him?
Well, today was the normal 4:25 wake up call. That's Central time
Still too damn early though! lol
Ok, due to having to work sunday I got the rest of the day off. So I got a mid cycle check again today, and its 386 and he is starved. Gave 3 decent sized chicken chunks. Didn't dent the hunger. So i gave him about 3 oz of Friskies. So, 386 at +6 with food = 400+ for PMPS.
I will be making a run to buy more Syringes and will Start the R today. Seems like a good day to start it. I will be dosing around 4pm and in bed by 9pm. Is that enough time to monitor him?
julie & punkin (ga)
Member Since 2011
Re: 8/29 TIgger AMPS 346
maybe yes brent, let's check on it - but i only want you to try the R with an expert online with you. Sandy has already told me that she can teach you how to do it - and timing and guidance is everything. we talked about it last night so i know she's more than happy to help. please don't shoot til you have a pro guiding you through it. will you send a pm to sandy (& BK or black kitty) to ask her if she's available then?
if i were you i'd bookmark your condo from last friday so that you can go refer to it as needed. it gives you some names of folks who are experienced who can help with questions.
maybe yes brent, let's check on it - but i only want you to try the R with an expert online with you. Sandy has already told me that she can teach you how to do it - and timing and guidance is everything. we talked about it last night so i know she's more than happy to help. please don't shoot til you have a pro guiding you through it. will you send a pm to sandy (& BK or black kitty) to ask her if she's available then?
if i were you i'd bookmark your condo from last friday so that you can go refer to it as needed. it gives you some names of folks who are experienced who can help with questions.
julie & punkin (ga)
Member Since 2011
Re: 8/29 TIgger AMPS 346
ps - don't forget to link your previous condos every day. it really does help to be able to go back and in a crisis it can be essential.
ps - don't forget to link your previous condos every day. it really does help to be able to go back and in a crisis it can be essential.
Patti and Merlin
Member Since 2009
Re: 8/29 TIgger AMPS 346
Hi Brent
Just checking in on people here and the other board for the day. Looks like you have a great plan of action and certainly people to help you. I will be hoping for good numbers. So glad to see the link to your SS too. I'll check back later. Your Tigger is one handsome boy! And sooo lucky to have such a great dad too!
Hi Brent
Just checking in on people here and the other board for the day. Looks like you have a great plan of action and certainly people to help you. I will be hoping for good numbers. So glad to see the link to your SS too. I'll check back later. Your Tigger is one handsome boy! And sooo lucky to have such a great dad too!
Sandy and Black Kitty
Member Since 2009
Re: 8/29 TIgger AMPS 346
Hi Brent,
I'm at tbp right now, popping in to let you know I'd be happy to show you the ropes of R dosing/monitoring and get you on the road to developing an R dosing scale for Tigger.
What time zone are you in?
You have plenty of test strips?
Hi Brent,
I'm at tbp right now, popping in to let you know I'd be happy to show you the ropes of R dosing/monitoring and get you on the road to developing an R dosing scale for Tigger.
What time zone are you in?
You have plenty of test strips?
hnkstr
Member Since 2011
Re: 8/29 TIgger AMPS 346
Ok, need to vent here. Just got into it with a neighbor about me walking my cats in the backyard of our condo development. Now, we don't own the yard in the back, everybody does. He seems to think he owns the whole back corner since he has the corner unit. Anyways, about a year ago the neighbor across the grass field threatened to kill Tigger if he saw him in his yard again. Tigger has to walk past his house to get to the little woods where he hunted. He told me "if you want to have a cat, you better keep him out of my yard". I said "what does that mean?" He said, "If he comes in my yard again you won't have a cat". So I said "you are going to kill my cat if he goes in your yard"?? I asked what did he do and he said Tigger pooped in his garden. WTF?
So I called the cops and asked if he can kill my cat, to which they emphatically said "NO, he cannot kill your cat". So I logged a police report in case something ever happened. The cops came out and I showed him the house and we walked back there and said I can walk Tigger anywhere back there just outside of his fenced yard.
Now, this other neighbor who is two units down just came out and said "i'm going to tell you nicely, you cannot walk your cats back here". I asked him why since we all own this back yard "and he said it causes his dog to go nuts in his house and its ruining his new $10,000 hard wood floor". Again WTF??
I said dude, I already had the cops out here and I can walk this whole area per city ordinance, you have no right to tell me I cannot. Its not my fault your dog is hyper". So then he says "My daughters room is on the corner and she doesn't like you back here with your shirt off". Its 88 degrees and i'm with my two cats at the grassline! That ticked me off. Now look at the pics, all of us are connected so basically I cannot go left in my back yard. I'm so sick of this crap. Then he over does it, he saw us when Tigger was peeing on the tall grass line. He says "What, he can't use a litter box inside? Our cats use litter boxes". That was it, I've had it and told him "He's f'ing diabetic, I cannot control when or where he goes to the bathroom. I have to dodge landmines all over the backyard from all the dogs and you're gonna give my cat **** about pissing in the grass?" He said again "You cannot come back here" and I just said "Whatever".
Like I said, already had the cops out from the last guy and he has no right and he knows it. That is why he brought up his daughters room. Look at the Corner Unit picture, he's on the end by the cornfield. I'm walking the tall grassline, not even close to his house which is the end unit in the first picture. And of course Tigger LOVES it over there.
Ok, need to vent here. Just got into it with a neighbor about me walking my cats in the backyard of our condo development. Now, we don't own the yard in the back, everybody does. He seems to think he owns the whole back corner since he has the corner unit. Anyways, about a year ago the neighbor across the grass field threatened to kill Tigger if he saw him in his yard again. Tigger has to walk past his house to get to the little woods where he hunted. He told me "if you want to have a cat, you better keep him out of my yard". I said "what does that mean?" He said, "If he comes in my yard again you won't have a cat". So I said "you are going to kill my cat if he goes in your yard"?? I asked what did he do and he said Tigger pooped in his garden. WTF?
So I called the cops and asked if he can kill my cat, to which they emphatically said "NO, he cannot kill your cat". So I logged a police report in case something ever happened. The cops came out and I showed him the house and we walked back there and said I can walk Tigger anywhere back there just outside of his fenced yard.
Now, this other neighbor who is two units down just came out and said "i'm going to tell you nicely, you cannot walk your cats back here". I asked him why since we all own this back yard "and he said it causes his dog to go nuts in his house and its ruining his new $10,000 hard wood floor". Again WTF??
I said dude, I already had the cops out here and I can walk this whole area per city ordinance, you have no right to tell me I cannot. Its not my fault your dog is hyper". So then he says "My daughters room is on the corner and she doesn't like you back here with your shirt off". Its 88 degrees and i'm with my two cats at the grassline! That ticked me off. Now look at the pics, all of us are connected so basically I cannot go left in my back yard. I'm so sick of this crap. Then he over does it, he saw us when Tigger was peeing on the tall grass line. He says "What, he can't use a litter box inside? Our cats use litter boxes". That was it, I've had it and told him "He's f'ing diabetic, I cannot control when or where he goes to the bathroom. I have to dodge landmines all over the backyard from all the dogs and you're gonna give my cat **** about pissing in the grass?" He said again "You cannot come back here" and I just said "Whatever".
Like I said, already had the cops out from the last guy and he has no right and he knows it. That is why he brought up his daughters room. Look at the Corner Unit picture, he's on the end by the cornfield. I'm walking the tall grassline, not even close to his house which is the end unit in the first picture. And of course Tigger LOVES it over there.
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Re: 8/29 TIgger AMPS 346
Brent:
I hope Sandy or LIbby will be able to get you started on the "R" soon. Bev has done really well with it and Gus.
Sorry about the neighbor issues....some people just don't know how to be nice. I never take our neighbors for granted.....they are awesome. Hope it settles down.
Brent:
I hope Sandy or LIbby will be able to get you started on the "R" soon. Bev has done really well with it and Gus.
Sorry about the neighbor issues....some people just don't know how to be nice. I never take our neighbors for granted.....they are awesome. Hope it settles down.
hnkstr
Member Since 2011
Re: 8/29 TIgger AMPS 346
By the way, his daughters 20 years old, and just moved there. No clue she even lived with them since she got out of drug rehab.
Pulling that is what got me fired up, like i'm walking back there for that reason.
The only reason i'm there is to prevent Tigger from jumping in the grass and going to the woods so the other neighbor doesn't kill him.
This summer, I would say we've been out in the backyard a total of a dozen times, this is such a crock. He better hope his dog doesn't get loose, i'll take a picture and call the cops for a loose dog.
I need to move, and would if the housing market didn't tank and my house lost so much in value, and would lose my ass if i sold it.
Next meeting for the owners is going to be interesting. :lol:
By the way, his daughters 20 years old, and just moved there. No clue she even lived with them since she got out of drug rehab.
Pulling that is what got me fired up, like i'm walking back there for that reason.
The only reason i'm there is to prevent Tigger from jumping in the grass and going to the woods so the other neighbor doesn't kill him.
This summer, I would say we've been out in the backyard a total of a dozen times, this is such a crock. He better hope his dog doesn't get loose, i'll take a picture and call the cops for a loose dog.
I need to move, and would if the housing market didn't tank and my house lost so much in value, and would lose my ass if i sold it.
Next meeting for the owners is going to be interesting. :lol:
Patty & Champ
Member Since 2011
Re: 8/29 TIgger AMPS 346
Good luck with the R!!!
I've had a neighbor from hell myself a few years back and it's absolutely no fun. Totally makes it hard for you to want to venture outside. Whatever you do, don't back down!! You have the right, and so does Tigger, to be out in the back common area. Just ignore him!!
Good luck with the R!!!
I've had a neighbor from hell myself a few years back and it's absolutely no fun. Totally makes it hard for you to want to venture outside. Whatever you do, don't back down!! You have the right, and so does Tigger, to be out in the back common area. Just ignore him!!
PeterDevonMocha
Member Since 2009
Re: 8/29 TIgger AMPS 346
Hi guys .. ugh on your neighbors! Growing up we had neighbors like that and they are the worst .. thankfully most of our neighbors now are OK .. with the exception of the family right behind us .. we live in mobile home park and we are NOT allowed to have any loose pets .. apparently this does not pertain to them, as their cat wanders about as if he owns the place .. which of course, makes our territorial mocha insane .. she has even gone as far as to jump halfway out our window screen one evening before we caught her .. We've talked to the neighbors about this and they just say oh yeah, oh ok, yup, no problem .. but they never do anything about it, which makes it impossible for us to go anywhere and leave any windows open for the cat's to enjoy ..
Such a shame people are like this ..
Hi guys .. ugh on your neighbors! Growing up we had neighbors like that and they are the worst .. thankfully most of our neighbors now are OK .. with the exception of the family right behind us .. we live in mobile home park and we are NOT allowed to have any loose pets .. apparently this does not pertain to them, as their cat wanders about as if he owns the place .. which of course, makes our territorial mocha insane .. she has even gone as far as to jump halfway out our window screen one evening before we caught her .. We've talked to the neighbors about this and they just say oh yeah, oh ok, yup, no problem .. but they never do anything about it, which makes it impossible for us to go anywhere and leave any windows open for the cat's to enjoy ..
Such a shame people are like this ..
julie & punkin (ga)
Member Since 2011
Re: 8/29 TIgger AMPS 346
sorry on the neighbor issues. nothing like having it unpleasant to be in your own neighborhood. that's really a shame. we've only ever had one bad neighbor - he was a doozy. wonder how you spell doozy? :lol: anyway, a pain in the neck. but you know what - the guy dropped dead of a heart attack at age 60. i figured that he did it to himself going through life angry all the time. he was like a mad bull.
did you see sandy asked you what time zone you're in and if you have plenty of strips?
sorry on the neighbor issues. nothing like having it unpleasant to be in your own neighborhood. that's really a shame. we've only ever had one bad neighbor - he was a doozy. wonder how you spell doozy? :lol: anyway, a pain in the neck. but you know what - the guy dropped dead of a heart attack at age 60. i figured that he did it to himself going through life angry all the time. he was like a mad bull.
did you see sandy asked you what time zone you're in and if you have plenty of strips?
hnkstr
Member Since 2011
Re: 8/29 TIgger AMPS 346
I am in the Central Time Zone, it is 3:45pm now, will be dosing in 45 minutes if people are around.
I have practiced with water and a syringe, and it is Impossible to get .1 units!
Really, i can't see how it can be done. I've filled it to .5 units and tried to get drops, but can only get a couple drops out of .5 units?
As for the neighbor, I guess the part that chaped my ass is the daughter deal when she apparantly just moved home, and to complain that i'm outside with my shirt off in the summer walking my cat along the grass line. Once again, forced to be with him due to the other guy that wants to kill him, and the cops stating i have to be with him outside.
So yeah, I don't want to give in to the guy, and if not for the daughter thing I wouldn't give a crap what he said. But I don't want the guy making stuff up and telling people crap.
We have a yearly condo meeting with all the owners. I'll be sure to bring it up then, and make sure I mention all the loud vocal dogs, including his. Just tired of people ripping my cat for the smallest stuff. I don't let him roam, i'm with him 100% of the time and walking him in OUR communal property. cat(2)_steam cat(2)_steam
I am in the Central Time Zone, it is 3:45pm now, will be dosing in 45 minutes if people are around.
I have practiced with water and a syringe, and it is Impossible to get .1 units!
Really, i can't see how it can be done. I've filled it to .5 units and tried to get drops, but can only get a couple drops out of .5 units?
As for the neighbor, I guess the part that chaped my ass is the daughter deal when she apparantly just moved home, and to complain that i'm outside with my shirt off in the summer walking my cat along the grass line. Once again, forced to be with him due to the other guy that wants to kill him, and the cops stating i have to be with him outside.
So yeah, I don't want to give in to the guy, and if not for the daughter thing I wouldn't give a crap what he said. But I don't want the guy making stuff up and telling people crap.
We have a yearly condo meeting with all the owners. I'll be sure to bring it up then, and make sure I mention all the loud vocal dogs, including his. Just tired of people ripping my cat for the smallest stuff. I don't let him roam, i'm with him 100% of the time and walking him in OUR communal property. cat(2)_steam cat(2)_steam
julie & punkin (ga)
Member Since 2011
Re: 8/29 TIgger AMPS 346
i think most people seem to be able to work 4 or 5 drops out of .5 unit.
you might try turning the plunger as you work the drops out of the syringe. think kind of turning it like a screw. try that and see if it helps.
i think most people seem to be able to work 4 or 5 drops out of .5 unit.
you might try turning the plunger as you work the drops out of the syringe. think kind of turning it like a screw. try that and see if it helps.
Sandy and Black Kitty
Member Since 2009
Re: 8/29 TIgger AMPS 346
Hi Brent,
If you are available for a +1,+2, +3 and +4, load up that 0.01u R and administer following the Lantus dose. Like Julie suggested, try twisting out the drops until you get to .01u.
I have a feeling it will be a non-event, however you never know. Have to start at the beginning.
Hi Brent,
If you are available for a +1,+2, +3 and +4, load up that 0.01u R and administer following the Lantus dose. Like Julie suggested, try twisting out the drops until you get to .01u.
I have a feeling it will be a non-event, however you never know. Have to start at the beginning.
hnkstr
Member Since 2011
Re: 8/29 TIgger AMPS 346
That's what I was trying, but didn't seem to help.
But now Tigger goes and throws a monkey wrench into the deal but testing at 329 for PMPS.
What? 398 at +10 and he drops to 329 without insulin?
:?: :?: :?:
How can that be, and do I still test with R when he's only 329? I thought for sure he'd be 400+ since he ate at +10.
I just fed him lets see if he jumps in a half hour
That's what I was trying, but didn't seem to help.
But now Tigger goes and throws a monkey wrench into the deal but testing at 329 for PMPS.
What? 398 at +10 and he drops to 329 without insulin?
:?: :?: :?:
How can that be, and do I still test with R when he's only 329? I thought for sure he'd be 400+ since he ate at +10.
I just fed him lets see if he jumps in a half hour
Sandy and Black Kitty
Member Since 2009
Re: 8/29 TIgger AMPS 346 PMPS 329
I'm at tbp and can't see ss -
did you shoot his lantus? how may units and which cycle are you on for that dose?
I'm at tbp and can't see ss -
did you shoot his lantus? how may units and which cycle are you on for that dose?
julie & punkin (ga)
Member Since 2011
Re: 8/29 TIgger AMPS 346 PMPS 329
just curious, did you delay because you thought he might be dropping? or that the 329 was too low?
you'll want to correct your pmps - it should be the number that you actually shot.
just curious, did you delay because you thought he might be dropping? or that the 329 was too low?
you'll want to correct your pmps - it should be the number that you actually shot.
Karrie and Maverick
Member Since 2010
Re: 8/29 TIgger AMPS 346 PMPS 329
Just be safe. Principles are great, and of course rules are rules. But if they get your car keyed and your cat killed, principles don't do much. There are some twisted people out there. So if your cat is on a collar and you are a responsible owner they should mellow out. If I had an expensive hardwood floor I probably would ask the neighbors to vary their path if they could. Not because I owned the lot or felt it was my property - I just think of my kid sisters dog, she's so freaking hyper she would destroy things in the house if she saw a cat walking by. If they were a decent neighbor and friendly, I would try and accommodate. I have never heard of a complaint about men going shirtless causing an issue for a woman. Maybe if you were out there flexing your muscles and showing off your abs he's worried she will kidnap you and your cat? Maybe she has a phobia about shirtless men. :mrgreen:
Just be safe. Principles are great, and of course rules are rules. But if they get your car keyed and your cat killed, principles don't do much. There are some twisted people out there. So if your cat is on a collar and you are a responsible owner they should mellow out. If I had an expensive hardwood floor I probably would ask the neighbors to vary their path if they could. Not because I owned the lot or felt it was my property - I just think of my kid sisters dog, she's so freaking hyper she would destroy things in the house if she saw a cat walking by. If they were a decent neighbor and friendly, I would try and accommodate. I have never heard of a complaint about men going shirtless causing an issue for a woman. Maybe if you were out there flexing your muscles and showing off your abs he's worried she will kidnap you and your cat? Maybe she has a phobia about shirtless men. :mrgreen:
Sandy and Black Kitty
Member Since 2009
Re: 8/29 TIgger AMPS 346 PMPS 329
I'm confused -
I see a PMPS of 329
And it sounds like you fed him and waited for a rise -
Am I missing something?
I'm confused -
I see a PMPS of 329
And it sounds like you fed him and waited for a rise -
Am I missing something?
hnkstr
Member Since 2011
Re: 8/29 TIgger AMPS 346 PMPS 329
I actually delayed as I was waiting for advice!
I tested him at 4pm just to see where he was and saw the 329.
He had some food and jumped to 374 at 4:30pm so that is the PMPS i used.
I just dosed him at 4:45pm as Gayle messaged me and is online.
Good call on the PMPS, thought I put the 374 on there. I put 374 on the spreadsheet, but brain farted it here.
I actually delayed as I was waiting for advice!
I tested him at 4pm just to see where he was and saw the 329.
He had some food and jumped to 374 at 4:30pm so that is the PMPS i used.
I just dosed him at 4:45pm as Gayle messaged me and is online.
Good call on the PMPS, thought I put the 374 on there. I put 374 on the spreadsheet, but brain farted it here.
julie & punkin (ga)
Member Since 2011
Re: 8/29 TIgger AMPS 346 PMPS 374
brent, just saw this video that michelle (mannie) posted on fb - reminds me totally of tigger.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8-1F-CokXNU&feature=player_embedded
brent, just saw this video that michelle (mannie) posted on fb - reminds me totally of tigger.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8-1F-CokXNU&feature=player_embedded
hnkstr
Member Since 2011
Re: 8/29 TIgger AMPS 346 PMPS 374
Ok, been thinking of the neighbor, and it makes sense. He has this little yappy dog that goes nuts when ANYONE is outside. The most annoying dog I have ever seen.
Now, the guy knows he doesn't own the yard and couldn't tell me I can't be back there, which I clarrified when I told him the cops said I can walk Tigger anywhere back there. So he's never said anything to me about it, til now, when his daughter moved home.
So, he used that as his reason which is complete BS to even say. He didn't bring that up until AFTER I told him what the cops said.
I have a feeling this is not the end of it. lol
Ok, been thinking of the neighbor, and it makes sense. He has this little yappy dog that goes nuts when ANYONE is outside. The most annoying dog I have ever seen.
Now, the guy knows he doesn't own the yard and couldn't tell me I can't be back there, which I clarrified when I told him the cops said I can walk Tigger anywhere back there. So he's never said anything to me about it, til now, when his daughter moved home.
So, he used that as his reason which is complete BS to even say. He didn't bring that up until AFTER I told him what the cops said.
I have a feeling this is not the end of it. lol
Re: 8/29 TIgger AMPS 346 PMPS 374
Brent:
Brent:
In case you are not aware of this, it is the policy of FDBM (from the webmaster, Rebecca) to not condone off board advising. This is a copy of her policy from the How to Use the FDMB board. While those who have been here for some time are aware of this policy, given that you are relatively new, I'm assuming you were unaware that providing off-board advising is frowned upon. (I realize you're not the one dispensing the advice.) If anyone is providing you with guidance, could you please encourage them to post to Tigger's condo to avoid you're being put in an uncomfortable position.Brent/Tigger said:
hnkstr
Member Since 2011
Re: 8/29 TIgger AMPS 346 PMPS 374
Hey Karrie,
I missed your post. Yeah, the shirt comment caught me off guard, and no I wasn't flexing my muscles. lol I mean, what guy in their right mind goes shirtless in the summer? Especially in Wisconsin when summer is 8 days long. lol
I was following behind Tigger as he walked the grass line to make sure he did not jump in and get into trouble, not that cats have minds of their own or anything! :lol:
So he has an overly stimulated dog, now I can't let my pets outside? I cannot go to the Right of my place due to 4 unruly dogs chained up outside, of course they don't go that way.
Being a guy, if he used the daughters window thing to get his way, then I'm upset. I've been walking them back there for years without her there so no, that's not why i'm walking there.
Hey Karrie,
I missed your post. Yeah, the shirt comment caught me off guard, and no I wasn't flexing my muscles. lol I mean, what guy in their right mind goes shirtless in the summer? Especially in Wisconsin when summer is 8 days long. lol
I was following behind Tigger as he walked the grass line to make sure he did not jump in and get into trouble, not that cats have minds of their own or anything! :lol:
So he has an overly stimulated dog, now I can't let my pets outside? I cannot go to the Right of my place due to 4 unruly dogs chained up outside, of course they don't go that way.
Being a guy, if he used the daughters window thing to get his way, then I'm upset. I've been walking them back there for years without her there so no, that's not why i'm walking there.
Sandy and Black Kitty
Member Since 2009
Re: 8/29 TIgger AMPS 346 PMPS 374 +1=401 +2=367
I didn't realize you were being advised by someone else. Since I don't know what advice you are receiving, I really can't make informed dosing suggestions.
I will say that in feeding Tigger at +12 and waiting, you artificially inflated his PS. Do you always do that? In general, it's recommended too not feed after +10. IMHO, that had muddied the test to see what effect the 0.01u of R may have.
Something very important I want you to know and remember, is that with IAA, insulin binds to the antibodies and is eventually released. When - hard to know. Because of this unlike a non IAA cat, where you can pretty much count on R wearing off at around 4hrs, the IAA can make a short acting insulin behave more like a medium to long lasting insulin.
Sandy and Black Kitty said:
hnkstr said:
I didn't realize you were being advised by someone else. Since I don't know what advice you are receiving, I really can't make informed dosing suggestions.
I will say that in feeding Tigger at +12 and waiting, you artificially inflated his PS. Do you always do that? In general, it's recommended too not feed after +10. IMHO, that had muddied the test to see what effect the 0.01u of R may have.
Something very important I want you to know and remember, is that with IAA, insulin binds to the antibodies and is eventually released. When - hard to know. Because of this unlike a non IAA cat, where you can pretty much count on R wearing off at around 4hrs, the IAA can make a short acting insulin behave more like a medium to long lasting insulin.
Re: 8/29 TIgger AMPS 346 PMPS 374 +1=401 +2=367
What would you like to know about the assistance Brent is receiving on the use of R with Tigger?
Do you need to know my experience with R, and would you like details for how I have used R for Shadoe and for Oliver?
I do have experience with R dosing for a cat positive for acromegaly as well as IAA.
Oliver received his first dose of R on March 24, 2010 at 8pm his +2 with the first dose being .2R
Over time, his R dose rose to 7u but he 'broke' on June04, 2010, after which time it is suspected that the IAA had been defeated because he stopped needing R after that date.
I feel that I am experienced enough to assist a new person starting the use of R.
There are several others with much more experience than mine, also able to help, and it is Brent's choice.
If a vet or some other person off-board were to give Brent some advice or suggestions, would you want those persons also to post in Brent's condo? I would imagine not, so I would think that Brent is more than capable of posting what actions he is taking without having to justify why he did what.
What would you like to know about the assistance Brent is receiving on the use of R with Tigger?
Do you need to know my experience with R, and would you like details for how I have used R for Shadoe and for Oliver?
I do have experience with R dosing for a cat positive for acromegaly as well as IAA.
Oliver received his first dose of R on March 24, 2010 at 8pm his +2 with the first dose being .2R
Over time, his R dose rose to 7u but he 'broke' on June04, 2010, after which time it is suspected that the IAA had been defeated because he stopped needing R after that date.
I feel that I am experienced enough to assist a new person starting the use of R.
There are several others with much more experience than mine, also able to help, and it is Brent's choice.
If a vet or some other person off-board were to give Brent some advice or suggestions, would you want those persons also to post in Brent's condo? I would imagine not, so I would think that Brent is more than capable of posting what actions he is taking without having to justify why he did what.
hnkstr
Member Since 2011
Re: 8/29 TIgger AMPS 346 PMPS 374 +1=401 +2=367
Generally, no I do not feed him a half hour before dosing. Today was different and no one advised me to do that.
He stunned me with the 329 at 4pm when he was 398 at +10 which i've never witnessed him doing before.
Being that I wanted to try the R and I had just gotten home from being gone for a couple hours, Tigger was incredibly hungry so I gave him a piece of chicken to tide him over and I guess to see what that did to his numbers.
My thinking was if he jumped i'd be more willing to dose the R. 329 kind of stunned me as i was ready for 400 and not afraid of the R at that BG.
So yeah, guess i wanted him a bit higher the first time I used the R
Generally, no I do not feed him a half hour before dosing. Today was different and no one advised me to do that.
He stunned me with the 329 at 4pm when he was 398 at +10 which i've never witnessed him doing before.
Being that I wanted to try the R and I had just gotten home from being gone for a couple hours, Tigger was incredibly hungry so I gave him a piece of chicken to tide him over and I guess to see what that did to his numbers.
My thinking was if he jumped i'd be more willing to dose the R. 329 kind of stunned me as i was ready for 400 and not afraid of the R at that BG.
So yeah, guess i wanted him a bit higher the first time I used the R
Jill & Alex (GA)
Member Since 2009
Re: 8/29 TIgger AMPS 346 PMPS 374 +1=401 +2=367
furthermore, when advice is being offered on board as well as off board by FDMB members, the laypersons offering advice on the FDMB have no idea what the laypersons are advising off-board. in essence... the right hand does not know what the left hand is doing. not good. seems like more of a disservice to caregivers like brent.
and no, we don't expect professionals (veterinarians) to post in brent's condo. however, we are not professionals in the veterinary field. laypersons such as you and me make up the majority of the FDMB membership. how about we all work together in the best interest of the cat and the caregiver?
brent, i apologize to have hi-jacked your thread. FDMB members offering off-board advice is an on-going issue. please give this some thought.
gayle, the point is FDMB laypersons/members have been asked to offer dosing advice openly on the board... in the spirit of peer review. as a member of the FDMB, you're aware of this. your "credentials" are not being questioned. although, no matter how long a layperson's list of credentials is, it doesn't mean they're "right" 100% of the time. posting publicly, on the FDMB, allows others to offer support and/or invite discussion in the event the advice is questionable.Gayle and Shadoe said:
furthermore, when advice is being offered on board as well as off board by FDMB members, the laypersons offering advice on the FDMB have no idea what the laypersons are advising off-board. in essence... the right hand does not know what the left hand is doing. not good. seems like more of a disservice to caregivers like brent.
and no, we don't expect professionals (veterinarians) to post in brent's condo. however, we are not professionals in the veterinary field. laypersons such as you and me make up the majority of the FDMB membership. how about we all work together in the best interest of the cat and the caregiver?
brent, i apologize to have hi-jacked your thread. FDMB members offering off-board advice is an on-going issue. please give this some thought.
hnkstr
Member Since 2011
Re: 8/29 TIgger AMPS 346 PMPS 374 +1=401 +2=367
Ok, I didn't mean for conflict here everyone. Basically I was told to make sure someone with experience with R was "around" as you don't want to be going it alone.
That is basically what went down here tonight, nothing more.
I think the only advice was how many drops you get out of .5 u and to practice before giving the shot! It was going to be a .1u shot, that's it. And I received that advice from numerous people over the past week.
I would like to use all resources available to me, and I understand its hard to give advice when it could be coming from different places, but that is not what happened here.
Ok, I didn't mean for conflict here everyone. Basically I was told to make sure someone with experience with R was "around" as you don't want to be going it alone.
That is basically what went down here tonight, nothing more.
I think the only advice was how many drops you get out of .5 u and to practice before giving the shot! It was going to be a .1u shot, that's it. And I received that advice from numerous people over the past week.
I would like to use all resources available to me, and I understand its hard to give advice when it could be coming from different places, but that is not what happened here.
Jill & Alex (GA)
Member Since 2009
Re: 8/29 TIgger AMPS 346 PMPS 374 +1=401 +2=367
brent, you haven't caused any conflict. happy to hear what transpired didn't make any difference this time.
i don't post much any more, but i do try to follow along in as many condos as i can. you've been getting some excellent advice.
good luck on your journey with your precious furbaby! :mrgreen:
brent, you haven't caused any conflict. happy to hear what transpired didn't make any difference this time.
i don't post much any more, but i do try to follow along in as many condos as i can. you've been getting some excellent advice.
good luck on your journey with your precious furbaby! :mrgreen:
Phoebe_TiggyGA_NortonGA
Member Since 2009
Just to throw in my two cents -- the "off board" advice is not private. There are 56 people that can see it and about 8 to 10 actively posting this evening. That number may not be exact --- I did not scroll through the 103 posts and count names.
Karrie and Maverick
Member Since 2010
Also a lot of us learn by lurking. Many people may not post in your condo but read along so its good to have everything here. And more eyes on your condo can catch any errors/typos in dosing if they happen.
PS about your neighbor, if there is no alternative (four dogs on the other side) then I don't think you can do much more accommodating. I bought a lottery ticket.... if I win, I am buying my own island :mrgreen:
PS about your neighbor, if there is no alternative (four dogs on the other side) then I don't think you can do much more accommodating. I bought a lottery ticket.... if I win, I am buying my own island :mrgreen:
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