8/28 Kasha AMPS 103 PMPS 99

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Apparently we are force feeding exclusively. She still won't eat on her own - she's just too congested and I think she has some tummy issues still. Over the night - from dinner on, I force fed 3 Tbsp Wellness, including a +8 snack. For breakfast, I force fed an additional 1 1/2 Tbsp Wellness - with some probiotics and part of a cyproheptadine tab mixed in. I had to clean some sticky poo off her last night - I think the clinda really worked a number on her and she's still feeling it. Hopefully the probiotics will help fix the tummy issues and maybe, maybe the cypro will get her appetite moving. If not - I'm looking for a place to fill the mirtz prescription today to have that on hand.

She's breathing loudly now - but she was pretty quiet while we were sleeping. Which I am going back to do more of (sleeping)...

Yesterday
 
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I wish Kasha would eat for you. :sad: Come on girl, I know it's hard to taste the food but you need to eat something by yourself...
 
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Awww (((krys))) (((kasha)))
Im sorry to hear she is eating less.
I hope the cerenia helps. Its often a 3 day on/ 3 day off deal. It may not help her want to eat, but can do a wonderful job w/ preventing vomiting. I always found injection worked better for Latte....I believed it was an absorption issue. I would often do injection to put an immediate stop to vomiting and then follow with pills the next 2 days. Usually by the end of the 2nd day her eating would pick up. Expensive drug, isnt it!

If tummy is still upset and/or other issues an appy stim might not work as well, which you are finding out. Maybe mirtz would be better w/ the added anti nausea effect.

I assist fed Latte for 9 months. I understand how frustrating and taxing it can be. I chose to see it as 'assist' rather than force feeding because it put me in a different frame of mind, making it easier on Latte in the end. She still wanted to be here, so I was assisting. Certainly if she did not want my help she would have made it much more difficult. So just a slight change of wording may make this difficult process a little easier.

Kasha had a dental, right? Have they done any labs since then? Did they do any last night? Might be wise to follow up with some kidney values ssoon. It sounds like the breathing is the lingering issue resulting in non eating, but good to rule out anything else. You do have a no metacam note on her chart, right? It wasnt just there for the last time.

Well hope you got some good extra sleep. Give Kasha a kiss on the forehead for me. She is doing the best she can....as are you. Cant ask for much more than that!
 
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Sorry she's still not eating for you. :sad: It's so frustrating, I know. I'm sure you're trying everything - I was there when Emma was sick too. For her, microwaving her food for 10-15 seconds seemed to help. I also added something really smelly to the wellness or evo that she was eating. I don't want her to eat fishy stuff all the time, but a little bit of it mixed in and warmed up worked wonders for her. Maybe she'd be able to smell that? Sorry if I'm suggesting things you've already tried. I know it's hard! :YMHUG:
 
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sorry things not on the mend. as an FYI
I sent that breathing of wheezer and since then it had gotten much worse. so........ I tied the equate chlor tabs from walmart and gave 1 pill Bid .think only supposed to give 1/2 pill but he was really bad and I saw no ill effects .been 4.5 days now and breathing is 100% improved. may be a thought. it is an antihistamine and cheap.
just a thought since I have no clue what caused wheezers problems nor kasha
 
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I found evidence of more pasty poo in the litter box and in between litter boxes. So - I think that's part of the problem. I'm loading her up with probiotics - I've force fed (I can't bring myself to say "assist" because neither of us feels like that's the case) 2 more Tbsp food since breakfast. She just licked at some food on her own and then licked at a spoon of Wellness chicken and herring (I think) - that's the first time today that's she's licked at food on her own. She didn't really consume anything, but I hope it's a good sign. Maybe if we can resolve the belly issues, she might eat? I don't know - I've been feeling kind of queasy myself today.

Warmed food has never been very appealing to Kasha. I warmed up some milk and she was interested, but wouldn't lap at it. She shows some interest, but then snorts and won't eat. It sounds like someone snoring - and that's just how she is when she's awake and moving around. She's a little quieter when she sleeps. chicken broth - no. Warmed canned food - no. Milk - no. Fried chicken - no (no?!?!?).

I'm going to keep trying to get some more probiotics in her. My favorite are these little pearls, but I don't think that's going to be possible with her today. So - I'm mixing 2 different probiotics into some of her food. I don't want to overdo it, but if it were me, I'd be taking loads of 'em.

I need to get more cat food - might pick up some yogurt at Trader Joe's if I get a chance. I doubt that will be more palatable, but I can mix it into food as well.

Thanks Dian - I have that same stuff on hand for Kasha - I think she was supposed to get 1/4 of a pill BID - maybe I'll try 1/2 (and work my way up if need be) - but for tonight, I'm going to try to skip any meds (other than insulin and A/B) and give her some bupe in case she is in pain. She has soooo much post nasal drip - you can see her swallowing. I know that makes my throat hurt when it happens to me, and wonder if that's bothering her. My vet said when she was working on Kasha, she could see the drainage going down Kasha's throat - there was so much of it. Ugh.
 
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well, that would certainly explain the nausea. Post nasal drip. yuuuuuck.
wheezer only had a small amount clear drainage and as Kasha quiet when slept but and 18 wheeler down shifting going down hill. and same swallowing. so so slurrpy. now, he is as quiet as a mouse but like I said, Have no clue what caused or is causing it and I may be masking symptoms.
I am thinking once that PND stops, so will nausea and after AB out of system, diarrhea will be better too. clav is know for loose poop. fingers crossed and prayers you all start feeling better
 
Force fed about 2 Tbsp Wellness for dinner - she still is not interested in eating on her own.

She ate a normal (or more) amount of food since yesterday - about 7 1/2 Tbsp - and she's kept it down. She just didn't eat willingly.

I got the mirtz - not sure how you split it into eighths... that will be fun. I'm not trying it out on her till I know I'll be able to keep an eye on her for at least a few hours.

Waiting a bit after dinner before giving her the azithromycin. We're starting again on the every day for 5 days and then every 3rd day routine.
 
just a quick question. Instead of force feeding and if this not eating continues, why not consider a tube. life would be so much easier on the both of you
 
dian and wheezer said:
just a quick question. Instead of force feeding and if this not eating continues, why not consider a tube. life would be so much easier on the both of you
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What do you mean by a tube? Like the kind they do surgically? If she doesn't resume eating, maybe she's not meant to eat.
 
This seems like such an ordeal for you both. I just wish there was a way to get Kasha dried out!

Krys -- I wouldn't assume that because she's not eating she's not meant to eat. Cats rely on smell and with all of the mucus, she's probably not able to smell and she's probably nauseated from all of the mucus. I wouldn't give up.
 
Krys...bless your heart and Kasha's heart. I check every day to see how you BOTH are doing. You are totally amazing and Kasha is very fortunate to have such a great Mom. I hope Kasha's mucous problem resolves itself and soon. Man, y'all have been tackling this thing for awhile. Hang in there. Sending you a ton of human and kitty prayers.
 
yes Kyrs, a feeding tube. there are two different kinds but I do not know which is the easier and better. Have to agree with Sienne and Gabby here. you know when you do not feel well and are nauseated, you want the food but just cannot make yourself eat. does not mean you were not meant to eat. quite a few here have had a feeding tube in there cats to get them over the hump and get the proper nutrients into them for proper healing. maybe start a thread with the question regarding feeding tubes or do a search. believe me, It will be so much less stress for the both of you and they are not that big of a deal, really. then once kasha starts feeling better and eating on own, it is removed. just think about it ,k?
 
(((Krys)))

I think that WCF and Meowzi are usng a feeding tube (please correct me if I am wrong, Choy-Foong). They have saved a few lives here on the board for kitties who went on to recover from serious illnesses. Take a look at this link to Dr.Lisa's opinion of feeding tubes, with photos and a description of the different types:

http://www.catinfo.org/?link=feedingtubes
 
I was going to suggest chicken or turkey or tuna, but it sounds like you've tried those. I know when they can't smell well it seriously affects appetite. I hope she clears this hurdle quickly for you, I know how worrisome it can be. I wonder if she'd show any interest in people food - boiled deli meat, that sort of thing...
 
Gosh, Kasha, please eat! I know you want to!
Krys, I am sorry that you are still dealing with this. I would have thought that Kasha's problems would be a little better by now. Don't give up, Krys, Don't give up on Kasha. She is fighting and needs you there with her.
 
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