8/24 Eddie AMPS 441, +6/320, +9/236, PMPS/280, +8/142

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Jen&Eddie

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Yesterday's Rainbow Condo

Yesterday: AMPS/129, +1/161, +2/75, +2.5/50, +3/48, +4/57, +4.5/77, +5/90, +7/262, +9/323, PMPS/470, +1/453, +2/346, +3/273, +4/247, +5/175, +6/160, +7/166
Today: AMPS/441, +1/376, +2/372, +3/379, +6/320, +8/329, +9/236, +11/240, PMPS/280, +1/347, +2/305, +3/270, +4/232, +5/194, +6/155, +7/152, +8/142

Happy Sunday LL,

Eddie had a very colorful rainbow day yesterday. His AMPS cycle hit all colors except the color that shall not be named (if you don't count the PMPS retest that I made DH do). He started to slide back down in the PM cycle, and I thought Eddie might actually have a DOUBLE RAINBOW yesterday, but he didn't quite make it back down to green (that I saw anyway). I tried to explain that creating rainbows on his SS was not really the goal here, but he seemed to be pleased with himself anyway.

I didn't do anything to try to slow the cycle down last night, so he's probably bouncing off the drop last night again, or maybe it's a continued bounce from yesterday. When Eddie's dropping from numbers in the 300's I never know whether it's a good idea to try to carb him up early in the cycle or not. Seems counter-productive to feed MC or HC when he's that high. Plus, with meter variance, it's not always clear whether he is actually dropping or not.

Today, Eddie started out in red again. Yuck! I don't like these reds on his SS. If there was room to go up in dose, I'd bring him back up to try to curb the bouncing some, but the 48 yesterday morning AFTER MC and karo says there's not room to increase. We'll just have to hope he starts to settle down again. I supposed it's possible that this is a high before a break. In the past, once in a while, he starts doing some wicked bounces, and then starts to go down in dose again, so maybe that's what's going on here. After his red start, Eddie's decided that pink is his color for the day. If any kitties are making a stop at the pink floor on their way down, please grab Eddie on your way past.

One thing did happen today that was kind of funny/interesting. I had just tested him for the +8 number, and Eddie was still flat pink. An hour later, as I was typing up his condo, he was standing on the table, meowing and rubbing all over his test kit. I told him he didn't need another test, and I didn't want to see another pink number on his SS, but finally, I broke down and obliged his wishes for a test - lo and behold, it was a 236 (which I re-tested to confirm), so he appears to be starting to come down. I guess in the future if Eddie's asking for a test, I ought to oblige. If he continues to head down to the end of the cycle, it might be a busy bounce-breaking cycle tonight. If Eddie does in fact decide that he's going to want less insulin here shortly, and is warning me by peppering his SS with pinks and reds, hopefully, he'll get busy tonight while I'm home to monitor, rather than tomorrow morning while I'm at work.

Prayers and vines for all those in need today, especially Donaleen and her family who are mourning the passing of Ozy, king of kings.
 
Re: 8/24 Eddie AMPS 441, +6/320, +9/236, PMPS/280

Eddie - there is no prize for the most colourful spreadsheet. Just ask Neko, she tried long and hard for that prize for a couple years. :roll: How about getting slowly to blue and hanging there for a while tonight.

Almost 100 point drop from +8 to +9. :o Hope that doesn't cause too much of a bounce.

Cute how Eddie told you he was dropping fast and wanted a test. Paws crossed for a gentle slide tonight.
 
Re: 8/24 Eddie AMPS 441, +6/320, +9/236, PMPS/280

Hi Carla and Wendy!

Thanks for visiting. I've been trying to get Eddie to study some flat-cat spreadsheets, but he's far more interested in the rainbow kitty spreadsheets. :roll:

It didn't even occur to me the drop between +8 and +9 might set off another bounce, but it's entirely possible. Despite the bouncing, for the most part, Eddie's been clearing in one cycle or less - usually with such speed that it sets off the next bounce. I'm hopeful that he'll give me a nice slow flat downward slide one of these times that I can catch a low pre-shot and keep him flat (without him dropping).

I'm starting to wonder if R might be a viable option for us. It seems like for whatever reason, if/when I can get Eddie to flatten out for even just a few cycles in a row, where he's below renal threshold and spending a good amount of time in normal numbers, it makes a huge difference, and he ends up going down in dose. Given my work schedule, our ability to use R would probably be limited primarily to weekends when we are home when a bounce is starting, and can monitor closely for the next several hours. Any input on this? Or would Eddie not be a good candidate for trying to head off his bouncing with R?
 
Re: 8/24 Eddie AMPS 441, +6/320, +9/236, PMPS/280, +3/270

Okay, Eddie, no need for a contest on who has the most colorful ss. It will be interesting to see the answers about R since Eddie has been able to hold some reductions. I hope he glides and slides tonight as opposed to diving or climbing.
 
Re: 8/24 Eddie AMPS 441, +6/320, +9/236, PMPS/280, +3/270

julie & punkin (ga) said:
what strategies have you tried to reduce the bouncing so far, jen?
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Hi Julie! Nice to see you!

The things we've tried so far are primarily involving trying to slow big drops with food. A few weeks ago, we switched from ultra low carb (0-4%) to a slightly higher carb for Eddie's main meals (5-7%), since it seems that some kitties bounce/dive more dramatically on the super low carb food. We do still feed some of the stockpile of lower carbs we have on hand when Eddie's bouncing.

Since of late, Eddie's been primarily diving early in the cycle, with an early onset and really dramatic bounce clearing, so I've been experimenting for about two months with trying to slow those drops. I started with higher low carb, and continued experimenting until we were using high carb and/or karo early in the cycle to try to head off the drops. Sometimes, even HC and/or Karo won't even slow him down early in the cycle. Yesterday morning, for example, Eddie got 15% at +2, and then 18% + karo at +2.5, and +3 which finally stopped him from dropping further. If Eddie's flat (in lower numbers) at +2, or lower at +2 (with higher numbers), I usually anticipate a drop (depending on what happened last cycle), and carb accordingly. I have been struggling, however, with whether and what to carb when he's in the 300's or higher. With meter variance at those higher numbers, it's hard to tell whether there is actually a drop sometimes.

We recently started testing as a matter of routine at +1 to try to spot a pattern as to when Eddie might drop, but so far, even with a big food spike at +1, it doesn't provide much warning as to whether he's going to dive 100 points to +2. We are now feeding and testing at PS, +1, and +2.

We also changed to the 3-times-under-50 approach to reductions since Eddie likes to head straight for the bottom of the lagoon when he's bounce clearing, in order to keep him at a dose for a longer period of time.

On ProZinc, we often shot early to head off a bounce - with variable success. I know there is some flexibility to shoot earlier with Lantus to head off a bounce, but our schedule isn't all that flexible to get back on track if we get off schedule.

Of course, the other thing is that Eddie has now decided he wants to join the LL dive team, so just because he's high at pre-shot doesn't mean he's not going come blasting right back down.

Other than that, I'm not sure what other strategies we can try?
 
Re: 8/24 Eddie AMPS 441, +6/320, +9/236, PMPS/280, +5/194

thanks for explaining all of that. he does seem to be "creative" with his diving.

some of us are talking about Eddie. hang in there!
 
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