8/2 Shasta PMPS=291 +2=239 +4=88 +5.7=160 Appy/tooth? probs

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Deborah & Shasta

Deborah & Shasta

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8/1 Shasta

TGIF, LL friends!

This will be a quick/short condo because I need to leave in 10 minutes. Voice lessons for my students start at 11. Here is the deal with Shasta today...mostly crappy appy. Just gave her 5% FF Chunky Chicken (@ +4.5) to entice her to eat. :roll: I got a look at her teeth and that tooth that I got a picture of a while ago looks horrible. The swollen gum has engulfed her tooth and it looked like there were little white dots (?) on the swollen gum?! I tried to get a picture, but she wouldn't hold still. I don't know what to do. Because of her temperament, she's "unsedatable". cat(2)_steam

Suggestions? Advice?! I'm not opposed to duct taping her to the inside of the carrier while they sedate her! :shock: :YMSIGH: In the meantime, I'm going to ask for an appy stimulant. What should I request? Is cypro the appy stimulant? And is that the name I should give my vet?! Ok, I need to go, but I'll be back later. Thanks for any/all help you can give.

Sending healthy vines to all our sugar kitties and their hoomins! Blessings!

~Deborah & Shasta


AMPS=222 (4% FF Chopped Grill .80oz & miralax)
+2=233 (3% FF T&G 1oz & zobaline)
+4=114

PMPS=291 (4% FF Chopped Grill 1oz & atenolol & squash)
+2=239 (3% FF T&G 1oz & cosequin) 1.75mL Clindamycin Drops
+4=88 (7% FF Chunky Turkey .40oz & 12% FFEMF Chicken .30oz)
+4.5=137
+5.75=160

Poo Pee tally
Pee piles - 3
Poo piles -
 
Re: 8/2 Shasta AMPS=222 +2=233 +4=114 Appy/tooth? probs

It sounds like an infection. I'd get Shasta to the vet ASAP. At the very least, they can treat with antibiotics until the infection is under control and then you can get a dental done. You don't want this to get worse than it already is.
 
Re: 8/2 Shasta AMPS=222 +2=233 +4=114 Appy/tooth? probs

Can you tell if her tongue is swollen? Last year, when Mullet stopped eating they found a broken tooth that had cut his tongue and it got all infected and swollen. ABs fixed that, but he would only eat baby food and yogurt for several days. It hurt too much to chew.

Why is she "unsedatable"? One of our cats years ago (may have been Mullet), was almost impossible to handle at the vet. They gave him something in his food that made him docile enough to almost knock him out. It meant he had to eat it and wait a while until it took effect, but it worked.

If the tooth is bad enough to cause her to not eat, an apply stimulant might not be a good idea. If she tries to eat thru the pain, she might then associate food with worse pain and that'll make things worse if it causes further aversion to food.
 
Re: 8/2 Shasta AMPS=222 +2=233 +4=114 Appy/tooth? probs

I will call the vet in just a moment. I am stuck at the school until 4:45ish today, but if I can talk to the vet about what I saw, maybe he can prescribe us ABs without actually seeing her?! She eats "fine" when I hold the bowl for her and give her vocal encouragements and compliments...lord, she's spoiled! My concern is that when I start work next week (I'm a high school teacher), I won't be home to wake her up and encourage her to eat. I know she wakes herself up to eat sometimes...but other times, I think she's sleep until her BG was 10. Or at least that's my fear. There are times when I'm holding her bowl for her that I watch her inhale her food like she "forgot" what food was until I reminded her...and then it was GAME ON!

Carl - she turns into a feral cat when we get to the vet's office (side note, she was never a feral kitty...she's just a biatch! :o ). And if it were just that she "acted" feral, they could pin her down and sedate her, but she's got a heart condition, too. So the dose for sedation has to be carefully considered so that it doesn't stop her heart. And to make matters worse...as she's hissing, growling, spitting, biting, twisting and swiping, she's also hyperventilating and wheezing. It's so stressful on her (and me). The last time I took her in to have blood drawn, they couldn't/didn't touch her because she was so worked up and they were afraid the stress would do her in. :sad:

I emailed the vet a few days ago to see if there was anything I could give her that would "knock her out" enough to get her to the vet so that they could sedate her (I live less than 5 minutes away), and the vet wrote back that he didn't think there was a sedative pill strong enough for them to get a blood sample. I'll ask again if I can chat with him.

Have I mentioned that this is killing me. I'm a freakin' bundle of stress. Kitty xanax...one for her...three for me...one for her...five for me! :lol:

Sienne & Carl ~ thank you for the information and suggestions. I am going to call the vet now.
 
Re: 8/2 Shasta AMPS=222 +2=233 +4=114 Appy/tooth? probs

Ok, so I didn't hear back from the lady I originally spoke with on the phone. So, after I finished at the school at 4:45, I drove to the vet's office and rambled on about my ailing cat. Shasta is now scheduled for a tooth extraction and anything else they can get done while she's sedated...assuming we can get her sedated. Apparently, the saying "when it rains, it pours" was not only true for me and my family, but also the vet. Today was one emergency after the other and tomorrow was going to be a lot of the same for him. He did give us AB to start addressing any infection that Shasta may have. Anyone familiar with Clindamycin Drops? I am to give her 2mL orally once a day. :shock: Say a little prayer for us, please! :-D
 
Re: 8/2 Shasta PMPS=291 Appy/tooth? probs

I'm sorry Shasta's tooth is worse. I hope the vet can get her sedated and get the extraction done. When is it scheduled for? Sending prayers for you and Shasta.
 
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Clindamycin is used for (among other things), soft tissue infections, so I'd think it'd be a good choice since it sounds like Shasta's gums are infected too.

It can cause diarrhea (as most antibiotics can) so just keep an extra eye on the LB (Oh JOY!! :-D )

Sounds like the best thing for Shasta is to get that dental done and over with before it gets any worse. I wouldn't want to eat with an abscessed tooth either!!

Good luck to you! I think you'll be much better off getting it done now...before you have to return to work. I hope they can get it scheduled!
 
Re: 8/2 Shasta PMPS=291 Appy/tooth? probs

Hi Deb,

Sorry you're having so many problems. Yes, Cyproheptadine is the drug of choice for appetite stimulant. here is the link on Cypro from Tanya's CRF Page:Cyproheptadine

Clindamycin is the AB we use also for dentals, wounds & abscesses, I agree with Chris. This sounds like a tooth that may need to be pulled, or its just going to continue to be problematic. There may also be a foreign body under the tooth / gum line causing a problem?

I agree with everyone Shasta should be seen if at all possible, that tooth sounds yucky & will just get worse & harder for you.

Is there a vet that makes house calls in your area? That works for our ferals the best. Also, if you can get her in a carrier, our vet "pokes" the cat in the carrier to knock them out so they can neuter/spay if the cat is too wild to get out of the carrier. I don't know what they "poke' them with, tho, sorry!

Wow, good luck to you both - sending healing vines & calming vines, too! :YMHUG:
 
Re: 8/2 Shasta PMPS=291 Appy/tooth? probs

Hi Carla, Chris & Suzanne!

well, I just "gave" Shasta her AB - Clindamycin. Well, I think I got most of it in her. She's not too keen on syringe feeding. :roll: So, it was a slight battle and now she looks really pissed at me...but I did give her PureBites afterwards...so maybe she'll forgive me faster!

Does anyone know if I can mix it into her food or do I have to give it to her via syringe?

Oh, and I completely forgot to add that she is scheduled for sedation/tooth extraction/blood drawn/anything else they can do to her for Tuesday morning. I told them that since I didn't start work until Wednesday, that I would be available to help hold her down while they try to sedate her. :-D
 
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I wouldn't recommend trying to mix the AB in her food. If she doesn't eat all of her food, she won't get all of the AB.
 
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Oh, poor Shasta. I hope she feels better on the ABs.

FWIW: I've been crushing Ripley's AB and mixing it with a little baby food ~ that way I know she's getting all of the AB dose. (I googled whether or not it's ok to crush her particular AB first, just to make sure it was ok. It is, but was warned it could taste bitter.)
 
Re: 8/2 Shasta PMPS=291 +2=239 +4=88 Appy/tooth? probs

Well, s**t sheriff! That's one heck of a drop! :shock: I may have over-reacted to that 88. I gave her some 12% and 7% and she's up, up and away!! Could her ABs have affected her BG like that? or is it just her being a cat?

Thanks, Rhiannon! We can use all the well wishes we can get!!!

Thank you, Josie! Shasta's AB is in liquid form so that's why I was wondering if I could add it into her food. But Carla brought up a good point about the possibility of her not eating all of it. We'll see how tomorrow goes. If she's as *****y as she was tonight, I might have to mix it in with some baby food. :roll:
 
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Good luck with the vet kalohe goes tmro morning hope nothing real bad, I'm glad I wont have to duct tape Ko to the carrier :lol:
he's wild little thing but he does do what i say, healing vines for Shasta
 
Re: 8/2 Shasta PMPS=291 +2=239 +4=88 +5.7=160 Appy/tooth? p

Poor Shasta, I'm so sorry about her tooth and infection. I agree, we need bean sedation too!

We use cypro with Zener, but once Shasta's dental issues are resolved, perhaps her appy will pick right back up. The link to Tanya's page is a good one. She explains it very well.

A mobile vet is a great idea, if you have one in your area. Paws crossed the feline tooth fairy makes a visit to Shasta ASAP. Hugs to you Deborah. :YMHUG:
 
Re: 8/2 Shasta PMPS=291 +2=239 +4=88 +5.7=160 Appy/tooth? p

Thanks Linda & Anne!

Linda - I hope you don't have to duct tape Kalohe tomorrow! :lol: Sending good vetty teeth checking vines for your kitty!

Anne - Totally put the thought of appy stimulant on the back burners until we know what's going on with her teeth! I'm really hoping her appy picks back up after this tooth (or multiple teeth) are extracted. My vet is/was willing to come to my house to see if we could get blood drawn from her, but now that she needs to go in for tooth extraction, she'll need to be sedated and I have NO IDEA how we're going to pull this off!!!! :shock: Always an adventure. :YMSIGH: :-D

Oh yeah, and thanks, Suzanne for the link. (forgot to mention that a few posts ago!!!) Ok, time for bed. Here's hoping that Shasta snuggles with me a little like she did last night!? I want snuggles. I want snuggles! I WANT SNUGGLES! Good night friends and thank you for all the suggestions and advice. I will keep you all updated.
 
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