8/15 Max PMPS 145+1=101+2=70+2.5=53+3=54/54+4=65+6=64+76

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YESTERDAY:http://www.felinediabetes.com/FDMB/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=123516

Not only was yesterday the 9 month anniversary of Max's diagnosis but it was the strangest cycle he's ever had I think last night. His nadir was at +3 or 4 and then he went right up to yellow and stayed there until this morning. He woke me about a half an hour before TFS and got up on my bed for the first time in a week or two. I thought maybe he would have come down but no right there at the top of yellow. I imagine he will be pink at the next test.

My mom is still not right. Her blood pressure was okay but her heart rate up so the cardiologist upped one of her meds and another culture was sent out to see if the UTI is still there. The last one they said didn't show it but her actions say otherwise.

Sending prayers for Amy's dad, J.D., and all beans and kitties in need. I hope everyone has a good weekend.
 
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Good morning Elise!

I knew Eddie and Max were pretty close in time from when they started this dance, but I didn't realize how close. Like Wendy said in Eddie's condo yesterday, these annifursaries are bittersweet. I know it helps me to focus on how much better Eddie is doing today versus when he was diagnosed.

I will be very curious to see what Max does today. I know for Eddie, when there is a cycle that is really weird like Max's was last night that doesn't look like a "normal" bounce, and doesn't look like a "curve" but kind of wobbles around, sometimes those end up being bounce cycles that lead to some excitement the following cycle. Hopefully Max decides to get back to business for you today (but enough with the diving!).

Last night with Eddie he dropped like Max did during the day. I fed 18% at +2 which helped slow him down, but then made the mistake of not feeding again at +3, when he dropped again. I wonder if a higher MC or even HC really early in the cycle would work for Max when he's dropping or flat at +2? For us, it seems to work best for drops to do the high carbs very early in the cycle...even in the 20% range, and then as the cycle continues, decreasing the percentage of carbs. I screwed up last night and didn't feed at +3, but I fed 13% at +4 after Eddie dropped 80 points in an hour and that worked to slow him down. If I were to do it over again, I probably would have fed something like this: +2: 18%, +3: 15%, +4: 13%. It seems like the later in the cycle, the less carbs it takes to slow Eddie down.

I hope your Mom starts feeling better soon and that the doctors can figure out what is wrong. Prayers and vines for you and your Mom.
 
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Ah, these kitties love to keep us on our toes, don't they? Here's hoping Max surprises you by NOT heading to PinkVille!

Sending prayers for your Mom....how frustrating and stressful that she can't shake the infection. Could she have a kidney infection rather than a UTI? I know with kitties at least, kidney infections are much harder to detect than UTIs, and they require a longer course of ABs. I hope they figure out what is going on ASAP.
 
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Amy, I keep asking them to give her the antibiotics for longer. I know the same that you know about cats and UTI infections becoming kidney infections. My vet wouldn't give Tiffany antibiotics for more than 10 days either. With my mom she is becoming resistant to many of them but I think not completely getting rid of these infections is the cause and too much is not. How do you convince doctors of this? So frustrating.

Max was kind of interesting this morning. I don't let him go into the front part of the condo for several reasons. He used to like to dig in the dirt of my plants and Tiffany used to try to eat them so all my plants are in that part of the condo. He learned how to open the doors so I had to put window locks on the hallway and closet doors. I wish I had a video of that. My friend and I actually caught him in the act once. I figured he jumped up at it. I was wrong. My lazy guy would simply stand on his back legs and turn the handle with one paw using the other for balance. If I am right that he suffers from arthritis that is likely why he stopped doing it. But I digress. This morning I left the hallway door open and was in the kitchen having coffee. He walked in and was looking around. He saw me and didn't move so he stayed there. The second I got up he went back into the hallway. I guess he got the message that it is a do not enter area. It was nice to see him feel alive enough to venture out though. :smile:

He either has arthritis, low potassium, or low blood pressure. I'm convinced. His potassium is at the lower end, 4.0-4.1 but my vet doesn't want me to supplement. I bought NOW potassium and was going to but high potassium isn't good either so I would need to get blood tests so I haven't.

Jen, I guess I need to get some food in the 15-20% range to try.
 
Re: 8/15 Max AMPS 281+4=198+5=184

Well, maybe the 9% at +2 might not be such a good idea. He didn't dive but he is still high blue. Last night his nadir was at +3 so this is an improvement.
 
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Nice on Max feeling well to explore forbidden areas. Sending prayers for your mom to be rid of the infection and feel better. It must be very frustrating.
 
Re: 8/15 Max AMPS 281+7=150 PMPS 145+1=101

Thanks for the prayers Carla, Catherine, and Jen. The preliminary urinalysis doesn't show much but I wonder if it would if it is in the bladder. I need to look this up. What worries me now was the protein+1. I know a little from my cat and since her creatinine went up it could be that her kidneys are getting worse. I know one test alone isn't cause for worry so hope the next will be better.

Max has gone down at +1 so I gave him a little 20% sliced chicken. Maybe if I do it again at +2 if he drops more it will help him to surf.
 
Re: 8/15 Max AMPS 281+7=150 PMPS 145+1=101+2=70

Slow down Max - hop on the surfboard, there's plenty of time left in the cycle yet. :shock: :mrgreen: Looks like Max and Eddie are in cahoots tonight. :-D

Sending vines for your mom - that must be so worrying and frustrating dealing with the doctors.
 
Re: 8/15 Max AMPS 281+7=150 PMPS 145+1=101+2=70

I'm trying the carb loading early and hope it works. Max has gone down with each test today including tonight. I kind of liked the mostly blue day. It was sort of relaxing. Now if he would just stay around 70 most of the night I will be purrfectly happy.
 
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Good luck with the high carb! I know when Eddie's dropping like that at +2, I really have to stay on top of the numbers. If Eddie and Max are anything alike with these early cycle dives, I wonder if you might want to see if he's dropped more at +2.5? I've had to feed half-hourly with early cycle drops like that. Hopefully the HC will slow him down and help him surf tonight. I hope trying out HC gives you some good results in terms of slowing those dives Max likes to take.
 
Re: 8/15 Max AMPS 281+7=150 PMPS 145+1=101+2=70+2.5=53

Thank you for suggesting the 2.5, Jen. It's been some time since he dropped this early and of course he is diving. Hc failing and likely we are in for a wild night unless the carbs bring him up high quickly and a bouncy weekend. I honestly thought once again after a day of blue he would not dive.
 
Re: 8/15 Max AM+7=150 PMPS 145+1=101+2=70+2.5=53+3=54

Hi Elise, I see you have your hands full with Max tonight. Well, his numbers look good, hope he is feeling good. I am sending healing vines for your mom, I know that has to be extra stressful for you- :YMHUG: :YMHUG:
 
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Hi Ruth. Thanks for stopping by and thanks for the vines for my mom.

Max seems to feel okay tonight. I am feeding him his old fave sliced ff chicken which is 20% every 1/2 hour and he is holding steady at 53/54. It's been a long time since he was low so early in the cycle. I'd love to stop the hc but if I do I think he might drop under 40 at this point so I'll keep this up for a few more tests and then maybe see what happens without food.
 
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Good job keeping him up, Elise! Hope he can start to surf without the HC soon for you. Might be a late night for you. @-) ~O)
 
Re: 8/15 Max AM+7=150 PMPS 145+1=101+2=70 +2.5=53+3=54+3.5 5

Me too ,Jen. I just counted and he's only been green at +2 7 times. Hopefully you will get to sleep soon so you will be able to drive tomorrow.

Max is up to 65 so I won't feed him and test in an hour. His poor ear looks awful.
 
Re: 8/15 Max AM+7=150 PMPS 145+1=101+2=70 +2.5=53+3=54+3.5 5

Hi Elise!

Looks like our kitties are in the same group tonight. Cinco is not being real cooperative about coming out of the deep end of the lagoon,either. I finally brought out the karo.

Your story about Max getting into a forbidden room sounded so familiar. We had a Max years ago that figured out how to open doors to get into forbidden rooms. I was accusing my DH of leaving the door open until we caught Max in the act of opening the door! Too funny. Cats are pretty ingenious sometimes.

Sending prayers and healing vines for your DM. Sounds very stressful and frustrating. I hope you get it resolved soon and she feels better.
 
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What's with this LL cat plunge tonight? C'mon Max. Show 'em all how it's done. Climb. Nice and steady. A little. And then how 'bout a surf. Oh I know, asking a lot. But you can do it. Be the trend-setter tonight.

Sorry about your mom, Elise. Sounds so frustrating.

Marilyn and Polly
 
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Nice surf he has going there, Elise!!!

I just posted on JDs condo that I asked the IM specialist about potassium and diabetics because I've noticed at most of them have low potassium. He said it is because the insulin causes the potassium to be taken up by the cells. He said this does not typically require supplementation because you want the cellular level of K+ to be higher. Where it is a problem is in CKD cats where they lose potassium and whatever you see as the level in their blood, the level in the cells is lower.

Sending many more prayers for your mom. I hope they will sort this out soon.
 
Re: 8/15 Max PMPS 145+1=101+2=70 +2.5=53+3=54/54+4=65+5=67

That's good to know about the potassium, Marje. Whenever I post labs people tell me I should supplement as you want potassium to be mid range. My vet has been fine with the 4.0. I think Max's is low because he urinate so much. I do put a lot of water in his food.

I haven't fed Max in an hour so maybe he will surf longer before the inevitable bounce hits.
 
Fed a small amount of lc and fd turkey at +7 because Max was crying for food. I hoped it would help him surf the rest of the night and he was quiet after that and even didn't wake me at the usual 5 or 6 by meowing. Maybe I shouldn't have done that with a 176 on 8/16?
 
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