8/1 Harley PMPS 307, 260/+3

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Harley and Pattie

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August already! I cannot believe it. Another hot sticky day. Harley has done well all weekend, usually in the pink. Today he is starting 277 so I am happy. Hope he stays that way. Will update ss soon.

Pattie

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Re: 8/1 Harley AMPS 277

Good Morning,
~O) ~O) ~O)

Been wondering about you two! Glad to hear all is well!
(Hot and sticky here in Baltimore as too. . .right now temp. is 72 with 98% humidity...expected high temp of 98...ugh)
 
Re: 8/1 Harley AMPS 277, +6/309 Dose Question

Harley is on c7 at the 3.5. He is staying in the mid 300's to high 200's. Would going to a fat 3.5 tonight make sense or continue with the 3.5 for another cycle or 2?

Pattie
 
Re: 8/1 Harley AMPS 277, +6/309 Dose Question

I say yes to increasing to a 3.5fat, numbers tonight permitting. I just hope he has cleared the big bounce, it's been 3 full days.

ETA I almost want to say go back to the skinny 3.75. . .but he's so wild. You can always go up if the fat 3.5 doesn't show any action after a few cycles.
 
Re: 8/1 Harley AMPS 277, +6/309 Dose Question

I am thinking of changing the way I feed Harley. Seems like he is hungry all the time (or at least crying for food). This is my current pattern – the vet wants him to lose weight so I had been trying to stick to 2 cans a day.

Current: 1/2 for breakfast (5:30-6am), 1/4 can at 11:00-noon, 1/4 can at 3:00-4, 1/2 can for dinner. Then only 1/4 can before I go to bed (9-10pm) and then 1/4 can at 1-3am (depending on when he wakes me up).

What I want to add is extra snacks of raw chicken breast. So, the pattern would look like this.

New: 1/2 for breakfast (5:30-6am), raw chicken at 10:00, 1/4 can noon, 2:00 raw chicken, 1/4 can at 4, 1/2 can for dinner. Then raw chicken at 9, 1/4 can 1-3am (depending on when he wakes me up). Raw chicken at about 4:00.

Pattie
 
Re: 8/1 Harley AMPS 277, +6/309 Dose Question

Has Harley been on the 2 cans per day long?

The plan sounds like it's worth a try. How many calories total do you think it all adds up to? Are some of those meals going to be fed by your timed feeder?
 
Re: 8/1 Harley AMPS 277, +6/309 Dose Question

Taking the highest FF calories, he is getting about 190 calories a day if I just feed the 2 cans a day. I know he is getting a bit more with the freeze dried FF.

I think that with the chicken (1 oz=75 calories), he would be getting about 280-300 calories a day. I would feed about 1/2 oz chicken each time.


Pattie
 
Re: 8/1 Harley AMPS 277, +6/309 Dose Question

Hi Pattie!! I also have a cat who wants to eat all day, every day!! He was a grazer before FD so it's been a real challenge to find a way to let him think he's eating whenever he wants. He also needs to lose weight. He's currently at 18.5 pounds and needs to get down to about 14. He's very inactive so he's only on 5 oz. of wet food a day (though he still doesn't lose weight at that amount). I'll show you how I've managed his schedule because it seems to work for him. Of course, since Harley is allowed to eat more wet food, you would adjust his amounts at each meal time. Just for information, raw chicken breast is only 31 calories per ounce and raw shrimp is only 30 calories per ounce as noted on the Lance Armstrong website, Livestrong.com.

0.8 oz FF @ AMPS/PMPS
0.5 oz FF @ +2, +3, and +4
raw chicken or shrimp @ any time he's insistent on food (this is a 0 carb food and won't affect BGs). He's now at the point where he usually only wants something extra at his +10 in the early morning hours (it's 4:30 am for us). There are times, though, where he wants something at his +8 in his AM cycle and this is a good treat. I try to keep it at 0.5 oz. or less.

I hope this helps!!
 
Re: 8/1 Harley AMPS 277, +6/309 Dose Question

hi pattie!

i wonder if there's anything you can do to increase his exercise - i saw someone's suggestion a while back to move their cat to the farthest point of the house away from the food just to get it to walk/run a little bit more. more play, perhaps? i know punkin is a slug, but at first when i had to test him and he was downstairs i would go and pick him up. now i call him so he has to run up the stairs.
 
Re: 8/1 Harley PMPS 307

Again, Harley loves the low 300's. I did give a fat 3.5u tonight and hopefully this will nudge him down.

Pattie
 
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I do weigh it. I use a simple food scale, the same one I use to weigh my hamburger meat when I buy in bulk and want to freeze it in one pound packages!! :lol: :lol: The one I currently use is a digital one I got when I started Weight Watcher's. Digital makes it a lot easier. You can find a simply digital food scale at your local Walmart!!
 
Re: 8/1 Harley AMPS 277, +6/309 Dose Question

Sandy and Black Kitty said:
ETA I almost want to say go back to the skinny 3.75. . .but he's so wild.
i was thinking the same...
i think we were still seeing some leftover shed action when harley dropped to 43 on 7/28.
 
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