? 7/11 Maxi AMPS 383 Does Levemir work better than Lantus?

bambinaki

bambinaki

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It's time for me to order Maxi's insulin. He's up to 12 units of Lantus. It does sting him, but apparently not too terribly. So maybe for that reason I should change to Levemir. But is there another reason to change to Levemir? I have heard that some think it's more effective. Please give me your recommendations on sticking with Lantus or switching to Levemir.

Thanks.
 
For many cats, Levemir gets a bit better duration, which results in flatter cycles. I was really happy I switched, both to get flatter cycles and stop the sting. Another reason later on that I liked Lev was the later onset. It meant if Neko was fussy about eating, I had five hours to get food in her before the next shot would take effect. The only possible downside depends on your schedule. Onset and nadir are typically a couple hours later than on Lantus. It meant I had a hard time getting a before bed test in that was after onset, but I learned how to figure out what would happen based on the previous cycle’s +9 or +10, PMPS, and before bed test. And I was often up in the wee hours around Neko’s PM nadir time, for a workout. Meaning, I got more sleep on Lev
 
Wendy&Neko said:
For many cats, Levemir gets a bit better duration, which results in flatter cycles. I was really happy I switched, both to get flatter cycles and stop the sting. Another reason later on that I liked Lev was the later onset. It meant if Neko was fussy about eating, I had five hours to get food in her before the next shot would take effect. The only possible downside depends on your schedule. Onset and nadir are typically a couple hours later than on Lantus. It meant I had a hard time getting a before bed test in that was after onset, but I learned how to figure out what would happen based on the previous cycle’s +9 or +10, PMPS, and before bed test. And I was often up in the wee hours around Neko’s PM nadir time, for a workout. Meaning, I got more sleep on Lev
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I can switch directly from Lantus to Levemir, right? No need to do it gradually? So, I could give Maxi 12 units of Lantus tonight, and tomorrow morning I could give him 12 units of Levemir, and keep on with the Levemir dosing and increasing just like the Lantus?

I don't see regularity in Maxi's onsets or nadirs, so I could treat the testing the same with Levemir as with Lantus, couldn't I?

Thank you!
 
Some cats have a strong reaction to a change in insulin (L to L). To prevent too much excitement, we suggest starting at 70% of the Lantus dose, but we can fast track after 4 cycles or so, if its obvious the dose is too low. So that would be 8.5 units of Levemir to start.

bambinaki said:
I don't see regularity in Maxi's onsets or nadirs
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Onsets usually don't change that much. As long as it's not a bounce cycle, it looks like Maxi has onset by +2.

One other thing I like about Lev - when you give R at preshot, it is typically in and out just about the time of onset, giving the Levemir a nice number to work with, and not so much overlap with the downward action of both insulins. Of course, Neko didn't like to be typical, her R action wasn't like most, so what I had to do was a bit different. :rolleyes:
 
Wendy&Neko said:
Some cats have a strong reaction to a change in insulin (L to L). To prevent too much excitement, we suggest starting at 70% of the Lantus dose, but we can fast track after 4 cycles or so, if its obvious the dose is too low. So that would be 8.5 units of Levemir to start.


Onsets usually don't change that much. As long as it's not a bounce cycle, it looks like Maxi has onset by +2.

One other thing I like about Lev - when you give R at preshot, it is typically in and out just about the time of onset, giving the Levemir a nice number to work with, and not so much overlap with the downward action of both insulins. Of course, Neko didn't like to be typical, her R action wasn't like most, so what I had to do was a bit different. :rolleyes:
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Thank you!

Would you change to Levemir if you were Maxi's caregiver?
 
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