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Peggy and Mickey (GA)
Member Since 2010
Re: HELP!! Bud's somewhere between 4447-550
Oh my, that is high. I am sorry I am not experienced enough to give anyone advise. Maybe you can pop over to health, there is always someone there. Seems to be a slow hour here today.
Good luck. Hope Bud is doing better soon.
Oh my, that is high. I am sorry I am not experienced enough to give anyone advise. Maybe you can pop over to health, there is always someone there. Seems to be a slow hour here today.
Good luck. Hope Bud is doing better soon.
Sheila & Beau GA & Jeddie GA
Member Since 2009
Re: HELP!! Bud's somewhere between 4447-550
Beth, please stop reacting to high numbers as if she will die in hours. They are not the emergency that very low numbers are. Take a deep breath, or 10, when this happens and think for a minute. I would hope that the answer that would come to you would be to shoot her regular dose.
Why? Because you have no data over last night or during today that tells you what her BG cycle is. What if she had been lower overnight and/or during the day and the 500 tonight is rebound? Rebound could be happening on even slightly lower numbers (mid/low 100s) because she hasn't been that low for a while - and also because I think her body's response to any lowering BG seems to be to pump out cortisol and glucose to "save" her from hypoglycemia.
The .75u tonight will probably be ok - it will help deal with the 500s, but if it were me, I would go back to .5u tomorrow and stay there. Next time, shoot the regular dose and see what happens. Lev isn't a fast acting insulin that can be raised and lowered according to the PS numbers. Doses should be consistent to get the best results. And you need more data to be changing doses.
Please get some test in around +4 and/or +6. Again, it would be good to get random spot checks in at any time.
Beth, please stop reacting to high numbers as if she will die in hours. They are not the emergency that very low numbers are. Take a deep breath, or 10, when this happens and think for a minute. I would hope that the answer that would come to you would be to shoot her regular dose.
Why? Because you have no data over last night or during today that tells you what her BG cycle is. What if she had been lower overnight and/or during the day and the 500 tonight is rebound? Rebound could be happening on even slightly lower numbers (mid/low 100s) because she hasn't been that low for a while - and also because I think her body's response to any lowering BG seems to be to pump out cortisol and glucose to "save" her from hypoglycemia.
The .75u tonight will probably be ok - it will help deal with the 500s, but if it were me, I would go back to .5u tomorrow and stay there. Next time, shoot the regular dose and see what happens. Lev isn't a fast acting insulin that can be raised and lowered according to the PS numbers. Doses should be consistent to get the best results. And you need more data to be changing doses.
Please get some test in around +4 and/or +6. Again, it would be good to get random spot checks in at any time.
pamela and tigger
Member Since 2009
Re: HELP!! Bud's somewhere between 4447-550
Good to hear that she is eating anyway!
I have been going back and getting caught up on your posts and SS.
Whatever happened to the diagnosis of Triaditis? Has the vet periodically retested her liver values to see if they are back to normal yet? Is Bud still on any medications for it? If the vet is thinking pancreatitis right now, it is the third part of the Triaditis diagnosis so just wondering.
I am sorry about your other kitty, Itty Bitty.
So is Bud an only cat now?
Have you ever thought about putting her on a raw diet? I don't remember if we talked about this, but after Tigger's Triaditis diagnosis we put him on an all raw diet (this was back in 2007) and he hasn't had any flares since then. I know you know that Triaditis is a combination of IBD, pancreatitis and cholangiohepatitis (liver). The raw is really beneficial for the IBD.
To me that 500 today could mean rebound, not enough insulin, or an infection of some sort somewhere. But again, the fact that she is eating is a good sign. If she didn't feel well I can't imagine she would be so ravenous as she is except for the high number possibly causing it.
Did you get to talk to the vet today?
ETA, oh I see Sheila and I were typing at the same time.
Good to hear that she is eating anyway!
I have been going back and getting caught up on your posts and SS.
Whatever happened to the diagnosis of Triaditis? Has the vet periodically retested her liver values to see if they are back to normal yet? Is Bud still on any medications for it? If the vet is thinking pancreatitis right now, it is the third part of the Triaditis diagnosis so just wondering.
I am sorry about your other kitty, Itty Bitty.
So is Bud an only cat now?
Have you ever thought about putting her on a raw diet? I don't remember if we talked about this, but after Tigger's Triaditis diagnosis we put him on an all raw diet (this was back in 2007) and he hasn't had any flares since then. I know you know that Triaditis is a combination of IBD, pancreatitis and cholangiohepatitis (liver). The raw is really beneficial for the IBD.
To me that 500 today could mean rebound, not enough insulin, or an infection of some sort somewhere. But again, the fact that she is eating is a good sign. If she didn't feel well I can't imagine she would be so ravenous as she is except for the high number possibly causing it.
Did you get to talk to the vet today?
ETA, oh I see Sheila and I were typing at the same time.
pamela and tigger
Member Since 2009
Re: HELP!! Bud's somewhere between 4447-550
Yes, I remember that..stopping the leukeran when there wasn't even a positive diagnosis of cancer but Triaditis was a definite possibility. I am glad you did. And she felt better for a while there.
I think cerenia does well for inflammation so that is good. Although I don't understand her not testing for anything further, even just routine bloodwork after what Bud went through last summer.
Well, like I said we have fed raw for over three years. He even licks up the raw food 'scraps' that have been sitting there for a few hours. I understand about compromised kitties with our diabetics. The fact that your vet also prescribed Leukeran makes me wonder where she is coming from in this area. But again, I am not a vet. Just that I don't understand the reasoning here.
Feeding raw is much more simple than trying out different canned foods all the time. Really, once they get used to it, it is easy. They also know it makes them feel better in the long run. I used to throw out so many 'unwanted' canned foods - gave so many to a local shelter (in Chicago). You can order it online, it comes frozen and you just scoop out what you need. I freeze mine in individual 3 oz containters.
Yes, get those liver values, but ask your vet what she thinks about it....if it could still be something that is an ongoing issue with Bud like the Triaditis.
((hugs)) I am sorry if I am sounding harsh. I don't mean to be.
eeraby said:
Yes, I remember that..stopping the leukeran when there wasn't even a positive diagnosis of cancer but Triaditis was a definite possibility. I am glad you did. And she felt better for a while there.
eeraby said:
I think cerenia does well for inflammation so that is good. Although I don't understand her not testing for anything further, even just routine bloodwork after what Bud went through last summer.
eeraby said:
Well, like I said we have fed raw for over three years. He even licks up the raw food 'scraps' that have been sitting there for a few hours. I understand about compromised kitties with our diabetics. The fact that your vet also prescribed Leukeran makes me wonder where she is coming from in this area. But again, I am not a vet. Just that I don't understand the reasoning here.
eeraby said:
Feeding raw is much more simple than trying out different canned foods all the time. Really, once they get used to it, it is easy. They also know it makes them feel better in the long run. I used to throw out so many 'unwanted' canned foods - gave so many to a local shelter (in Chicago). You can order it online, it comes frozen and you just scoop out what you need. I freeze mine in individual 3 oz containters.
Yes, get those liver values, but ask your vet what she thinks about it....if it could still be something that is an ongoing issue with Bud like the Triaditis.
((hugs)) I am sorry if I am sounding harsh. I don't mean to be.
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