6/4 Mouzer AMPS 447

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Kris & Teasel said:
That +2 is a sign that there might be some activity in the down direction this cycle.
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AMPS / 447 / 1u
+2 / 297
+4 / 317
+6 / 257

Note For Me:
back to 5/28 amps
back to 6/3 on +2
back to 5/29 on +4
back to 5/28 on +6

I dont think I can know where Mouzer is goin. It appears, today, he is going to travel all past days :D
 
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You're learning quite a bit about Mouzer even if it doesn't seem like it. My guess is that he'll need a little boost in his dose to 1.25 u soon. You have to eyeball that but if your syringes have half unit marks it's not too hard to do. Being consistent with your eyeballing is more important than getting a perfectly accurate 1.25 u dose. Let's see what the pros have to say.
 
Kris & Teasel said:
You're learning quite a bit about Mouzer even if it doesn't seem like it. My guess is that he'll need a little boost in his dose to 1.25 u soon. You have to eyeball that but if your syringes have half unit marks it's not too hard to do. Being consistent with your eyeballing is more important than getting a perfectly accurate 1.25 u dose. Let's see what the pros have to say.
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Yeah - It doesnt seem like it hahaha I feel pretty stupid, still.
Jill & Alex (GA) sent some of those syringes with the other marks that my whole unit syringes doesnt have. Would I still be having to 'eyeball' - or no? I wont go up unless -- you got to let me know who are the 'pros' to listen to - says so. And I am going to be so scared because of those blues on the one day. But ok, tippy toes for me and sick tummy due to nerves.


Veronica & Babu-chiri said:
You are gathering very good data about how he reacts.

I agree with Kris let's see what the pros think, but I think you are going to need to practice the 1.25u dose
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'Practice' - Do you mean like use water as practice and just practice pulling out 1.25u?
I laughed, when I saw what you said, thinking of how I had to practice lancets on myself, and thinking with the picture of my practicing 1.25u of insulin on me heehee - and no, I would not do that - but the imagery came into my head :D
 
If you have syringes with half unit marks (the lines in between the main whole unit marks) you would be eyeballing half way across the tiny space between a half unit and whole unit mark. You could make yourself a "reference syringe" by drawing up some coloured water to what you think is 1.25 u and use it as a guide when drawing that dose.

Let's see what the experts here think about a dose increase, Cherryl. BTW - don't fear the blues. It's the low dark greens or lime green that need attention.
 
Kris & Teasel said:
If you have syringes with half unit marks (the lines in between the main whole unit marks) you would be eyeballing half way across the tiny space between a half unit and whole unit mark. You could make yourself a "reference syringe" by drawing up some coloured water to what you think is 1.25 u and use it as a guide when drawing that dose.

Let's see what the experts here think about a dose increase, Cherryl. BTW - don't fear the blues. It's the low dark greens or lime green that need attention.
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I forgot, .25 will be halfway between the marks between the marks haha
OK! dont fear the blues - it is not the reaper :)
 
AMPS / 447 / 1u
+2 / 297
+4 / 317
+6 / 257
PMPS / 314 / 1u

Note For Me:
back to 5/28 amps
back to 6/3 on +2
back to 5/29 on +4
back to 5/28 on +6
-pmps - may 31, june 1, june 3
 
Cherryl & Mouzer said:
'Practice' - Do you mean like use water as practice and just practice pulling out 1.25u?
I laughed, when I saw what you said, thinking of how I had to practice lancets on myself, and thinking with the picture of my practicing 1.25u of insulin on me heehee - and no, I would not do that - but the imagery came into my head :D
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LOL getting the insulin on you probably not such a good idea ,

But it does require a little practice to get the amount consistent, I did some marks on a piece of paper that I placed on the fridge ( I shoot at the kitchen) so that it would be vertical and I didn't had to hold it ( I think it was easier for me to compare) First mark was the top of the syringe, 2nd mark 1u third mark 1.25 fourth mark 1.5, that way I could place the syringe already with the insulin in front of it and check if the plunger was always on the same place .

And definitely don't fear the blues ( they may be a little bit annoying if they happen at shooting time ask if that happens) blues are actually nice
 
Veronica & Babu-chiri said:
LOL getting the insulin on you probably not such a good idea ,

But it does require a little practice to get the amount consistent, I did some marks on a piece of paper that I placed on the fridge ( I shoot at the kitchen) so that it would be vertical and I didn't had to hold it ( I think it was easier for me to compare) First mark was the top of the syringe, 2nd mark 1u third mark 1.25 fourth mark 1.5, that way I could place the syringe already with the insulin in front of it and check if the plunger was always on the same place .

And definitely don't fear the blues ( they may be a little bit annoying if they happen at shooting time ask if that happens) blues are actually nice
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I honestly dont even think I know how to do this - with a piece of paper - and I dont seem to have anything that will make a mark on the plastic to the syringe. I am not sure what kind of marker to use on that, but I dont seem to have a right one here.

Also, I dont think I understand your making a 1.5 mark on the syringe. Doesnt the syringe have the .5 line? And I would go in between 1 and 1.5? I am really confused. I am even going to have to take these syringes with the marks that are not like mine and hold them up to the photo of the syringes just so I can comprehend. I hope I dont do this wrong and end up killing Mouzer over it.

And as for practice, I wont be wasting insulin to practice. I figured to use water to practice. The vet had me use a saline solution to practice giving a shot, in the office.
 
AMPS / 447 / 1u
+2 / 297
+4 / 317
+6 / 257
PMPS / 314 / 1u
+2 / 279
+4 / 235

I am hoping to stay up a little later tonight and get some night readings in. Not sure if I can but I am going to try. I would like to see how Mouzer does in the night hours. It is just so hard to stay up, due to having to get up so early. I napped today, hoping to stay up for a while. I have a pot of coffee too. I put out extra food tonight, to those kitties I have to go over to Mom's to take care of, so if I am later tomorrow, it wont be too bad for them.

Note For Me:
back to 5/28 amps
back to 6/3 on +2
back to 5/29 on +4
back to 5/28 on +6
-pmps - may 31, june 1, june 3
+2 - I give up haha Just say, all over the past week :)
 
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If I can make myself stay awake for two more hours, which will be midnight and will be PMBG +6
would that be enough to have an evening reading, where if any changes in dose were decided, there would be enough data? Or no? Does there need to be more data for night hours?
 
Cherryl & Mouzer said:
If I can make myself stay awake for two more hours, which will be midnight and will be PMBG +6
would that be enough to have an evening reading, where if any changes in dose were decided, there would be enough data? Or no? Does there need to be more data for night hours?
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If you can get that +6 without getting too tired, it would be good info. I think you have enough data for day and night cycles now to try a dose increase to 1.25 u tomorrow AM. Let's see what the others think.
 
Kris & Teasel said:
If you can get that +6 without getting too tired, it would be good info. I think you have enough data for day and night cycles now to try a dose increase to 1.25 u tomorrow AM. Let's see what the others think.
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Ok - I am having another cup of coffee - I will push for the pmbg +6
haha one more cup of coffee might end up giving me an all nighter :D
I wont do 1.25 unless it is confirmed. I am going to go dig out the box of syringes given to me, with all those marks on them, and compare them to the photo in the sticky area, to make sure I know what 1.25 is on those syringes. So, if I do come back asking any really stupid questions about those syringes, please forgive me and just please help me, because I dont want to do the wrong thing and get on the wrong mark. Mouzer's life depends on it. I will go look at all of that now.
 
Cherryl & Mouzer said:
Ok - I am having another cup of coffee - I will push for the pmbg +6
haha one more cup of coffee might end up giving me an all nighter :D
I wont do 1.25 unless it is confirmed. I am going to go dig out the box of syringes given to me, with all those marks on them, and compare them to the photo in the sticky area, to make sure I know what 1.25 is on those syringes. So, if I do come back asking any really stupid questions about those syringes, please forgive me and just please help me, because I dont want to do the wrong thing and get on the wrong mark. Mouzer's life depends on it. I will go look at all of that now.
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We're here to help. :)
 
With the syringe needle pushed all the way in - and with syringe held upside down, where needle is the top -
You call that first line - the bottom line? First line from the needle end?
And then - barley pulling back with the syringe, there is a line, to the left side of that first/bottom line and that is .5?
Pulling back more, barely a move, is a line to the right of that (.5?) line - and that is 1u? 1.0?
So, if I am correct, so far, I would pull back just to the top of that line? - the 1u line - because not far is another line to be 1.5?
And no matter which way this is done with these syringes, if I have to push in to get to right spot, I am to do it out of the pen, as in the kitchen sink or somewhere, just do not push insulin back into the pen. - I am pretty sure I got this part right - as far as no insulin to go back into the pen :)
 
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The photo above is from another post by @Veronica & Babu-chiri. She's a Spanish speaker so when she wrote "Cero" she meant "zero". Does this help? See that little line half way along in the green bracketed area? That's a half unit mark. To get 0.25 u you'd have to eyeball half way across the SPACE between a full unit mark and the next half unit mark beside it. Does this help?
 
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The photo above is from another post by @Veronica & Babu-chiri. She's a Spanish speaker so when she wrote "Cero" she meant "zero". Does this help? See that little line half way along in the green bracketed area? That's a half unit mark. To get 0.25 u you'd have to eyeball half way across the SPACE between a full unit mark in the next half unit mark beside it. Does this help?
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God! I am going to OD the cat on insulin!!
That does help me know what the marks mean but the marks on the syringe in hand, dont have that much space between them. When I pull back, if I stop with the black stopper thing to the very top of the 1u line - and then to pull back just a touch further, I am on the 1.5 line. So, it appears to me, the very top of the 1.0 line, would be 1.25, because a touch further is 1.5. Wow! They could have made this easier than this. I dont want to kill Mouzer. I am scared now :(
 
If I was drawing up a dose of 1.25 u, I'd draw insulin up to the 1.5 u mark or thereabouts, pull the needle out of the vial, tap it to get air bubbles (if any) to the top, then turn the end of the plunger slowly like a screw until it's as close to half way across the gap between 1.0 u and 1.5 u as possible. Practice with some coloured water.
 
Kris & Teasel said:
If I was drawing up a dose of 1.25 u, I'd draw insulin up to the 1.5 u mark or thereabouts, pull the needle out of the vial, tap it to get air bubbles (if any) to the top, then turn the end of the plunger slowly like a screw until it's as close to half way across the gap between 1.0 u and 1.5 u as possible. Practice with some coloured water.
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I have to practice with just water. I dont have coloring. I dont use it for anything.
The syringe doesnt just go up and down with smooth ease, it is jerky movements. So, if not to stop on 1u line, it either goes to the top of the 1u line or it goes to the 1.5 line. If I knew that top of that 1u line is where to go, that is easy to do. If it is that I am to go closer to the 1.5 line, that is not easy, jerky movement of syringe. I can hope that the top of the 1u line is where it is at because that is where it goes, if not on 1u or 1.5 :/

I can actually hope, there wont make a much difference between being on 1u and 1.5u, by being somewhere in the center, which seems to be right on top of the 1u line.
 
You could try very diluted tea or coffee as a coloured liquid. Some syringes are smoother than others. It's recommended that you always pump the plunger up and down several times before filling a syringe. That helps to spread the silicone lubricant inside the syringe barrel.
 
AMPS / 447 / 1u
+2 / 297
+4 / 317
+6 / 257
PMPS / 314 / 1u
+2 / 279
+4 / 235
+6 / 319



Kris & Teasel said:
You could try very diluted tea or coffee as a coloured liquid. Some syringes are smoother than others. It's recommended that you always pump the plunger up and down several times before filling a syringe. That helps to spread the silicone lubricant inside the syringe barrel.
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Oh! Ok! Thank you! I will try the pumping thing. I am going to go on to bed. I dont see a dose raise recommendation from someone else, whoever you might be waiting for to tell us this hahaha So, in the morning, I will do the same 1u - and practice tomorrow on seeing if I can get the plunger to move smoother and practice with watered down coffee on filling it.

Good Night and thank you for the information and patience too :)
 
The photo is highly magnified you are right syringe isn't that big, I bought some reading glasses (one of those cheap with pre set graduation)to use as a magnifying glass (that way I have both my hands free)

And do give it a try to Krish's suggestion of turning the pluger instead of pushing it that way it'll move just a little and you can throw away just a drop till you get from 1.5 to 1.25

PD sorry for the spelling mistake:oops:
 
Veronica & Babu-chiri said:
The photo is highly magnified you are right syringe isn't that big, I bought some reading glasses (one of those cheap with pre set graduation)to use as a magnifying glass (that way I have both my hands free)

And do give it a try to Krish's suggestion of turning the pluger instead of pushing it that way it'll move just a little and you can throw away just a drop till you get from 1.5 to 1.25

PD sorry for the spelling mistake:oops:
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I wear glasses - I am seeing but with that black plunger in the way, it is hard to tell.
It appears to me, to be at the top of the 1u line, is in between 1u and 1.5u
That black plunger hides the black lines, when I get in this area, so it is a 'my guess'.
 
Cherryl & Mouzer said:
I wear glasses - I am seeing but with that black plunger in the way, it is hard to tell.
It appears to me, to be at the top of the 1u line, is in between 1u and 1.5u
That black plunger hides the black lines, when I get in this area, so it is a 'my guess'.
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Consistency is the key, Cherryl. For example, when I'm drawing up a dose that involves a half unit mark I always turn the plunger slowly like a screw until the top flat surface of the plunger is absolutely level with top of the black half unit mark on the barrel. By top, I mean the part of the half unit mark that's closest to the needle on the syringe.
 
Kris & Teasel said:
Consistency is the key, Cherryl. For example, when I'm drawing up a dose that involves a half unit mark I always turn the plunger slowly like a screw until the top flat surface of the plunger is absolutely level with top of the black half unit mark on the barrel. By top, I mean the part of the half unit mark that's closest to the needle on the syringe.
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Ok - If consistency is the key, I know I can get that plunger right there where the flat surface is sitting right at the top of the 1u line and not right on the 1u line, but just as you get to the clear area, right above the line - and that appears, to me, to be 1.25
If that is 1.25, then I know I can get it there, and if that is not 1.25, it is not 1.5,
it is somewhere in there, as long as I get it to that same spot, every time, then I am being consistent. So, if we see this is not enough, then I guess we would take it on to the 1.5 mark, which is just a nudge from where I will be thinking is 1.25
But first, somebody needs to confirm or say that we are to now go to 1.25
I am waiting on that part.
 
Cherryl & Mouzer said:
If that is 1.25, then I know I can get it there, and if that is not 1.25, it is not 1.5, it is somewhere in there, as long as I get it to that same spot, every time, then I am being consistent. So, if we see this is not enough, then I guess we would take it on to the 1.5 mark, which is just a nudge from where I will be thinking is 1.25
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You got it, Cherryl! :) This part gets easier with practice too. A cheap pair of high magnification reading glasses (maybe higher than you might read with if you're in that age group!) will be your friend.
 
Kris & Teasel said:
You got it, Cherryl! :) This part gets easier with practice too. A cheap pair of high magnification reading glasses (maybe higher than you might read with if you're in that age group!) will be your friend.
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I dont know - I have my glasses set, so I can read close up and then also read farther away. The progressives, I think they call it. They just aint computer glasses haha And I was shown glasses to be used at the computer and those things are funky lookin and big hahaha and I cant afford them anyhow. I used to try on the magnifying reading glasses, before breaking down and getting my own glasses, and I never found any I could see right with.

I am seeing fine, as far as I can see the syringe and lines clearly. The issue is, the area being so small that the black plunger covers the black lines, when I get where I am trying to be. But I think I feel ok with the knowing, as long as I am consistent to get at the one same spot and I do know it isnt the 1.5 spot. It is a nudge away from 1.5 and just above, where the flat part of the plunger is even with the very top of the 1u. So, I wont be over-dosing him, at least. We will just have to watch his numbers to see if it should move on to the 1.5u. I feel ok with this now.

I have to run up to our ex-vet's office and get the records for the kitties who have ongoing vet care. One of them is to meet the new vet tomorrow and I do not feel comfy about this kitty with a new vet and worried they are going to end up killing my kitty. I will get back, after picking up the records, and practice with the weak coffee and syringe/ plunger use, just in case it is to go to 1.25 for this evening shot.
 
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Ok - If consistency is the key, I know I can get that plunger right there where the flat surface is sitting right at the top of the 1u line and not right on the 1u line, but just as you get to the clear area, right above the line - and that appears, to me, to be 1.25
If that is 1.25, then I know I can get it there, and if that is not 1.25, it is not 1.5,
it is somewhere in there, as long as I get it to that same spot, every time, then I am being consistent. So, if we see this is not enough, then I guess we would take it on to the 1.5 mark, which is just a nudge from where I will be thinking is 1.25
But first, somebody needs to confirm or say that we are to now go to 1.25
I am waiting on that part.
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Actually as long as you are sure that you are giving him a little bit more insulin than the 1u but less than 1.5 and you manage to get the same dose every time you'll be ok, going all the way to 1.5 even though it's easier to measure could be too much of an increase of insulin (not always but no way of knowing so better be safe) , kittys are really sensible to changes on the amount of insulin they get and one drop can make a lot of difference

I actually use the reading glasses with extra graduation just when I'm dosing , I seriously couldn't walk around with them or read or anything other than the dosing (that's why I mentioned I got one of those cheap ones they sell at the pharmacy or supermarkets ) so they are just kind of a magnifying glass that I don't have to hold with one hand so that I can have both hands freefree

I suggest you open a new condo (A new thread) with today's date and something like 'Dose advice needed ' on the subject line so that the pros spot it easy and help with the dosing issue
 
Veronica & Babu-chiri said:
Actually as long as you are sure that you are giving him a little bit more insulin than the 1u but less than 1.5 and you manage to get the same dose every time you'll be ok, going all the way to 1.5 even though it's easier to measure could be too much of an increase of insulin (not always but no way of knowing so better be safe) , kittys are really sensible to changes on the amount of insulin they get and one drop can make a lot of difference

I actually use the reading glasses with extra graduation just when I'm dosing , I seriously couldn't walk around with them or read or anything other than the dosing (that's why I mentioned I got one of those cheap ones they sell at the pharmacy or supermarkets ) so they are just kind of a magnifying glass that I don't have to hold with one hand so that I can have both hands freefree

I suggest you open a new condo (A new thread) with today's date and something like 'Dose advice needed ' on the subject line so that the pros spot it easy and help with the dosing issue
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I just sat outside on my carport couch haha and the light is better, so I could see the black lines in with the plunger. It does appear, when I have the plunger just at the top of the 1u line, that must be 1.25 - and I can see the 1.5 mark -- I turned it all around, just observing closely, and that does look to be halfway between 1 and 1.5. So, it is pretty good, I think. And that is what I figured - as long as I am not doing 1.5 and still more than 1.0 - and do it same spot every shot, it will be ok and then as we watch the numbers, we can know if I need to move to the 1.5 --- but I really do think I got it at 1.25 with how I see it at the very top of the 1.0 line. I twisted the plunger to be where it appeared halfway 1 and 1.5 - that is where it landed :)

I guess I will make a new thread and bother everybody hahaha I hate doing that. I wish I just knew for myself, but I dont.
 
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