6/4 Lucy PMPS=76; +1=106; +2=128; +3=131; +5=153

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mariko

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Good morning!

Yesterday's

Lucy seems to be feeling good this morning.
She started meowing for food at 6 am, and I had to ignore her for a long time to get the AMPS.
And she vomited a small amount of liquid while she was waiting for me to get up, but it wasn't too yellow.

A week ago, I got a little nervous when she gave me green numbers.
Now, I'm starting to feel a bit more comfortable about it, and she wouldn't go green....
Cats...... :roll:

Mariko & Lucy
 
Re: 6/4 Lucy AMPS=144; +2=106

Hi,

AMPS=144
+2 =106

A little better!
I'm going to work now, but will come home to test around +8......

Mariko & Lucy
 
Re: 6/4 Lucy AMPS=144; +2=106; +8=110; AMPS=76 !!

Lucy gave me a green number for the first time since I added a *fat* to her dose.

Does it not look strange to you that her PMPS is quite a bit lower than her AM+2 or AM+8?
Does this mean that the *fat* is kicking in now?

This is the first time I give her a shot at a green preshot, so I am glad it happened for the PM cycle when I can stay at home.
I will be testing her often tonight...

Mariko & Lucy
 
Re: 6/4 Lucy AMPS=144; +2=106; +8=110; AMPS=76 !!

I hope you are getting a +2 with that PMPS.. Could be an exciting nite!
 
Re: 6/4 Lucy AMPS=144; +2=106; +8=110; PMPS=76 !!

Rhiannon - Thank you for catching that! Yes, I meant PMPS. I corrected the subject.
Wendy - Thank you for checking on us again. Yes, I will check +2 tonight.

Mariko & Lucy
 
Re: 6/4 Lucy AMPS=144; +2=106; +8=110; PMPS=76 !!

Mariko --

How about getting a +1 and a +2 test. It looks like you may have shot a dropping numbers. If that's in fact the case, you could be up testing tonight. Getting the early tests in will help you to know how the cycle is going. If your +1 is lower than your PMPS, you may want to give Lucy a teaspoon or two of HC food/gravy.

Just in case you need them, here are the instructions for handling low numbers.
 
Re: 6/4 Lucy AMPS=144; +2=106; +8=110; PMPS=76 !!

Sienne, Thank you. OK, I will test both +1 and +2.
And I have read the instructions too.

So... I am wondering... I shouldn't have shot a dropping number?
In the future, if I see a green preshot number that may be still dropping, should I stall?
And should I shoot only after making sure it's going upwards?
She eats right after a preshot test/shot so I assumed it would be OK....
So worried I'm doing it wrong again and putting her in danger.....

I'll test her +1 in 10 min. and post again....

Mariko & Lucy
 
Re: 6/4 Lucy AMPS=144; +2=106; +8=110; PMPS=76 !!

In principle, it's OK to shoot a dropping number. However, it's not something I'd encourage for someone who's still relatively new to handling FD or low numbers. There have been times when I've come home at PMPS and shot and in retrospect, Gabby's numbers were dropping. The issue with shooting a dropping number is that there can be momentum behind the drop which may or may not be effected by food. It can make for a very busy cycle!

What can be a reasonable strategy given what you saw at +8 and at PMPS was to stall (don't feed) and re-test in 20 min. If numbers were still dropping, I would have stalled a bit longer. If numbers were pretty level or rising, then it's fine to shoot. We just want to make sure you feel confident about steering low numbers. It's also why I wanted to give you a head's up so you could keep a close watch on Lucy's numbers so if they start to drop, you'll know it and be able to intervene.
 
Re: 6/4 Lucy PMPS=76; +1=106

Hello,
Her +1 is 106... a blue number, but it's probably the food working?
Do you think she is safe now?
I will get her +2, and will test her though out the night.
Maybe this is a good opportunity to collect more data....
Mariko & Lucy
 
Re: 6/4 Lucy PMPS=76; +1=106

You're correct -- this is likely a food spike. Or, it could be that Lucy's numbers are heading up. The +2 should give you some good information.
 
Re: 6/4 Lucy PMPS=76; +1=106

Thank you again, Sienne.
I think we cross-posted.
I will remember your strategy for future reference.
For today, does it look like she'll be OK as long as I keep testing and monitoring?

Mariko & Lucy
 
Re: 6/4 Lucy PMPS=76; +1=106

:lol: :lol: :lol: We cross-posted again!
I should be more patient waiting for a reply....

I will test +2, and post here.
If the number is worrisome, I will scream for a help.

Lucy & Mariko
 
Re: 6/4 Lucy PMPS=76; +1=106

I've let the "night shift" know to keep an eye on your condo. Marje and Wendy/Neko will likely be around. They stay up later than I do!!
 
Re: 6/4 Lucy PMPS=76; +1=106

Feel free to scream, I'm listening. :lol: :lol:

I've shot a lot of dropping numbers on Neko, she does it a LOT. But not too often dropping numbers in green. Neko has a late onset (usually) so it's not as much of an issue with her. But as Sienne says, it can be an indication of an active cycle.
 
Re: 6/4 Lucy PMPS=76; +1=106

Thank you, Sienne.
Thank you, Wendy.

I am sorry, I did read all stickies when I joined, so maybe it was explained somewhere, but I can't find it now.
Could you please explain to me again what exactly is an "active cycle"?
I though it meant a cycle where insulin is working (=active) and assumed it's a good thing, but I have a feeling I'm completely wrong.

Mariko & Lucy
 
Re: 6/4 Lucy PMPS=76; +1=106

An active cycle just means a normal Lantus cycle (going down instead of up) and perhaps one you have to pay attention to.
 
Re: 6/4 Lucy PMPS=76; +1=106; +2=128

Thank you, Wendy.

Her +2 is 128. She is going up. Maybe still the food working?
When do you think is the good time to test her next to see how this cycle is going to be?

Mariko & Lucy
 
Re: 6/4 Lucy PMPS=76; +1=106; +2=128

A +3 will let you know where the cycle is likely going as onset should have happened by then.
 
Re: 6/4 Lucy PMPS=76; +1=106; +2=128

I want to throw another lesson in as long as we are all here and awake :-D

Wen you get a number like this at PMPS, it can be either a dropping number or a second dip. Lantus is known for its second dips. What's the difference (I'm sure you are asking).

A dropping number is when the BG gradually drops from one PS to the next so the lowest number is the end of the cycle.

A second dip is when the numbers come down to a nadir, rise, and then at the end of the cycle, drop back down but not as low as the nadir. It's safe to shoot a second dip because numbers should then be on the way up after PS.

Lucy's +2 this morning was much less than her PS and so she may very well have nadired and the +8 was on the way back up and the 76 a second dip. OR she could have had an inverted curve today where the mid cycle was higher and then she dropped into PMPS. Lucy kind of likes to come up mid cycle.
 
Re: 6/4 Lucy PMPS=76; +1=106; +2=128; +3=131

Thank you, Wendy.
Thank you, Marge. Yes I am still awake.

Her +3 is 131, a little bit higher than +2, but almost the same.
Does this look like the food spike has settled, and she is starting to surf?
Can I give her a break at +4, and test again at +5?

Thank you again, Marge, about the valuable lesson about the 2nd dip.
Whenever I look at her SS, I often can't tell when her nadir is.
I am probably not testing enough, and also I'm not experienced enough to really interpret the SS...
Is there any particular time you can suggest I test, in order to understand her reaction to Lantus better?

Mariko & Lucy
 
Re: 6/4 Lucy PMPS=76; +1=106; +2=128; +3=131

IMHO, you are doing a great job of testing. You are getting +2 tests and spot checks.
 
Re: 6/4 Lucy PMPS=76; +1=106; +2=128; +3=131

A +5 sounds good. Hopefully she'll still be surfing and you can get to bed after that.

If it helps any, my Neko doesn't have a consistent nadir. If she starts higher, then is generally later, but not always. Some cats just like to mix it up. I think you are getting a good number of tests. The +2 and mid-cycle (not always the same time) are good. A +10 or +11 will tell you if the PS is a dropping number.
 
Re: 6/4 Lucy PMPS=76; +1=106; +2=128; +3=131

OK! Thank you, Marge and Wendy.
It helps a lot.
Lucy may be like Neko, not always nadiring around the same time...

Even if she drops to green numbers over night, I am prepared with the instruction sheet printed out and HC/LC food and corn syrup, so please do not worry if you need to go to bed.
You all have been very helpful, and I am very thankful!!!
 
I don't understand.....
Why does she keep going up?
I really don't think I gave her a fur shot....
It's good I can go to bed, but I don't like how her number keeps rising!
 
Lucy is bouncing. It's been a few cycles since she's seen green. Sleep well. She'll get back on track tomorrow.
 
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