6/30 Jinx PMPS 393, +3 338

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Re: 6/30 Jinx AMPS 376, +2.8 320

Joe

I would keep Jinx at this dose longer. I know you controlled it with HC....If he were feeling 100%, I probably would have used LC and let him surf the greens a little longer but I know you have many things to consider in how he's doing, if he will eat so you can use something else to steer him, is he nauseous, etc.

I'm glad to hear he is still eating well today. I saw on last night's condo about the Denamarin but you don't need a script. The last time I got it, I ordered it from Petmedsnmore but sometimes they have it, sometimes they don't. I've also ordered it from Vet Depot Just check which is cheaper or google and see if anyone has it on special.

Have a great day!
 
Re: 6/30 Jinx AMPS 376, +2.8 320

Karrie and Marje, thanks. I'm going to order some right now. Will also keep him on the current dose.
 
Re: 6/30 Jinx AMPS 376, +2.8 320

It was recommended on the pancreatitis board that I give Jinx some fluids due to his blood work results indicating elevated levels of albumin, HCT, creatinine, and USG. They said that although those levels do not indicate severe dehydration, pancreatitis is dehydrating and keeping it perfused is helpful to recovery.

I'm going to pick up the fluids at the vet hospital pretty soon and was wondering if anyone knows when to administer the fluids in relation to the insulin? I'll ask them at the vets as well and will let you all know what they recommend.
 
Re: 6/30 Jinx AMPS 376, +2.8 320, sub-q fluid/insulin timing

Marje has more experience with fluids than I do. However, I think the issue is less the timing than the location. When you give fluids, you want to give them on the side opposite of where you're shooting.

Some cats do experience a drop in their numbers from fluids. This is an ECID thing, though. As a result, some people administer squids after nadir.
 
Re: 6/30 Jinx AMPS 376, +2.8 320, sub-q fluid/insulin timing

Did the vet give you lactated ringers solution and some needles and lines? Usually, if they give you needles, they give "harpoons"....18g needles because it gets the fluid in them faster. I use 22g needles because Gus will lay there for as long as it takes and purrs up a storm.

When are you planning on starting? I can give you lots of tips and also a video of Mike giving Gus fluids. You do want to give them on the opposite side as the insulin; it doesn't matter on timing but why not space it out? Also, for some cats, giving fluids can stimulate appetite as well as bring down BGs. Not all cats.....I've given squids to six different cats and none of them acted hungry afterwards but it can influence some cats to eat.

BTW, the link to yesterday's condo isn't working right :? :? :?: :-D
 
Re: 6/30 Jinx PMPS 393, sub-q fluid/insulin timing

Marje, I got lactated ringers solution and 20 gauge needles. Not sure what you mean about lines. There is a tube attached to the bottom of the solution bag where I insert the needle. If that's the line, they only gave me one.

I was waiting on word on the timing of the fluids and insulin before I decided on when to give it to him. By opposite side, do you mean opposite side of his body? If that's the case, then I usually tent his skin in between his shoulder blades so are you saying I can give it to him in the same spot?

I would really appreciate any other tips and the video of Mike giving Gus fluids as well. I was told at the vets that it's typically a two-person job so I was thinking about calling my pet sitter to give me a hand. I would bet my life savings Jinx is not going to sit still while I'm doing it. I know I've talked about him fighting the syringe and ear pokes. He also hates getting brushed if that helps paint a better picture of what I'm dealing with. :lol:

The needles they gave me are 20 gauge so I realize that may take a little longer but I wanted to minimize the chances that the larger needles will aggravate him more. They also gave me a 60mL syringe in case I wanted to administer it that way. I spoke to a vet tech about all of this and did not leave there confident that I know how to do it properly. So I'll wait to watch the video of Mike and get your take on whether it typically requires 2 people before I give it a shot. Also, do you open up the valve all the way (if I don't use the syringe) and approx. how long do you think it will take to get 100mL in him? And to think ear pokes used to stress me out.... :lol:
 
Re: 6/30 Jinx PMPS 393, sub-q fluid/insulin timing

Hmmm.....well, it depends on the cat as to whether it is a two person job. ;-)

Here's a great website to read first....it has lots of great points: Sophia gets her subqs

Important points:
--I freeze my needles....it sort of anesthetizes the area where you stick it; I usually keep about 3-4 in the freezer at a time
--the needle is inserted bevel side up
--I warm my fluids; I have a digital thermometer that reads the temp through the bag. But you can check it on your arm. A cat's normal body temp is higher than yours
--the line is the tube...yes; I save the little cap that is on the end of that tube where you put the needle. I take the cap off, open the valve all the way, bleed some of the fluid into a small glass, close the valve, put the needle on, insert it into the cat, open the valve all the way. When I'm done, close the valve, take the needle off, open the valve, bleed more fluid out of the bag to flush the line, close the valve, and then store it with the little cap on it. Don't store it with a needle on it

MJ uses the large syringes to give fluids. That might be easier for some but since I have to do it every day with Gus, it's just easier to get the bag, the line, and do it the way I do. He's happy...everything goes fine.
With a 22g needle and a perfect poke, it takes me about 8-10 mins to get 125 mls in.

Here are two videos....one of Mike giving them to Gus and then a really informative one. Ours just shows how easy it can be; I'm not usually standing there....just was that day to take the video. It's kind of boring so don't feel like you have to watch it all but Mike gets kisses (from Gus, not me) at the end :-D

Here's the Gus video:[youtube]W4wweyuq3Y4[/youtube]

Here's another one of a vet doing it: [youtube]/F5dnpvvlqtM[/youtube]
 
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