6/29 Ruby AMPS 142/+3 92/+6 104/+9 150/PMPS 152/+3 154

FrostD said:
I feel the frustration/annoyance with anything that causes insulin resistance. I think I've finally hit a good dose with Mr Kitty, but it'll change, aiming for a moving target that I can't see.
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Even the duration of long acting insulins like Lantus and Levemir can be unpredictable given the depot, carryover, and overlap. Add another variable like a steroid, GI distress, or a pulsing pituitary tumor (((Mr. Kitty))) then yeah, moving target. Being able to see the trends or waves of action will be interesting.
 
Liz & Minnie said:
"sassed back", love it. that's what Minnie has been doing to me lately during pokey time
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Aww, Miss Minnie, be nice to your mom please.

Ruby doesn't let anyone kiss her on the head except me. :rolleyes: I chuckled when she sassed the vet tech because Ruby looks sweet but is not at ease around strangers and this was just after she endured 15 minutes of being a pincushion, so ¯\_(ツ)_/¯. Ruby even hisses at DBF when he kisses her, which breaks his heart because he loves her so much. :(
 
Nice to see that green today, you're doing a great job keeping her in blues and greens
That's too funny hissing at the vet tech
I'm glad she's eating well .
Maybe one day she will let Frank kiss her on the head , poor guy
Have a good day Katherine ♥:bighug::bighug::bighug:
 
+9 = 150. Ruby's BGs have been pretty good today, but she's barely eaten anything. :( I noticed she was licking her lips a lot when she came home from the vet yesterday. Maybe it's the heat outside, but we have central AC and it's nice and dry and cool in the house. Sigh.
 
PerfumedCatMom said:
+9 = 150. Ruby's BGs have been pretty good today, but she's barely eaten anything. :( I noticed she was licking her lips a lot when she came home from the vet yesterday. Maybe it's the heat outside, but we have central AC and it's nice and dry and cool in the house. Sigh.
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Is she still getting the Ondansetron?
 
Suzanne & Darcy said:
Vet tech wants to give that adorable girl a little kiss on the head…. She’s just so sweet, right? Ruby hisses! Oops! Don’t take liberties with Miss Ruby!
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:joyful::joyful::joyful: This is TOTALLY what happened! When Olive goes to the vet, she makes friends with literally everyone; she goes looking for pets, talks to the doctors and techs. But my Ruby is a different story. :rolleyes:

Speaking of which, Olive has also not been eating much and vomiting every day, so I'm taking her for an ultrasound tomorrow morning at her primary DVM. If it shows that she also has thickening in her small intestines, I'm going to talk to the vet about doing treatment without endoscopy, first for IBD, and if the symptoms don't resolve, then for SCL. It's enough for me to have put Ruby through it as I wanted to have a definitive diagnosis for her given all of her other conditions, and frankly I can't afford endoscopy for another cat right now as I'm so in debt from all of Ruby's procedures this year. Sigh.
 
Diane Tyler's Mom said:
Katherine I feel so bad about Olive. How much more can you handle
I hope the ultrasound shows something minor that can be treated with meds
Please keep us updated about Olive ♥:bighug::bighug::bighug:
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If managing Olive involves watching how much she's eating and pilling her when she needs it, we can handle it. My big concern is if steroids cause her to become diabetic too. Then I might start to lose my mind! :arghh:
 
I am sorry to hear about Olive :(. The only other thing I can think of that you can try with Olive is an elimination diet to see if she is having an issue with something she is eating….the protein &/or the mix you are using. It is not uncommon for them to have you try that first to rule out diet related enteropathy.
It would be nice if that fixed the problem :)! It does in a high percentage of cases (fingers crossed).

I hope the increased dose and times you give the meds help Ruby out :bighug:
 
Tomlin said:
I am sorry to hear about Olive :(. The only other thing I can think of that you can try with Olive is an elimination diet to see if she is having an issue with something she is eating….the protein &/or the mix you are using. It is not uncommon for them to have you try that first to rule out diet related enteropathy.
It would be nice if that fixed the problem :)! It does in a high percentage of cases (fingers crossed).

I hope the increased dose and times you give the meds help Ruby out :bighug:
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I rotate Olive and Ruby's proteins and meal completer almost daily. Today she's eating turkey with Alnutrin, and in the past she has scarfed that up and asked for more. These days I have to top her food off with some Weruva with fish to get her to want to eat it, but she only has a few nibbles and walks away. I've been able to quell the daily vomiting by adding SEB to her food, so no pukes today. I have some different meats coming in a few days, so I will try those, but I'm kinda at my wits end here figuring it out.
 
PerfumedCatMom said:
I've been able to quell the daily vomiting by adding SEB to her food, so no pukes today. I have some different meats coming in a few days, so I will try those, but I'm kinda at my wits end here figuring it out.
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I am happy the SEB is working:). Rotating foods and completers can be good, but it can also be an issue for some cats. It can be a double edged sword—rotation can be great, but then if there is an issue, it becomes hard to figure out what could have potentially caused an issue:(. In addition, even with rotating proteins and completers, there is still repeat exposure to them so unfortunately, while it may help, it doesn’t 100% stop a sensitivity or even allergy from developing :(. Feline GI :banghead:

I am hoping you and Olive catch a break and it’s a minor issue :bighug: .
 
Oh Katherine. I can't believe you are going through a possible GI issue with your civvie now too. So sorry to hear this but glad you are getting things under control.
If I had one thing to do over with butters, I wish I hadn't fed her so many different proteins. She has had elk, emu, bison, venison among others and now that I'm pretty positive I'm going to have to do a food elimination diet for her, I so wish I hadn't fed her at least one of these things. I'll have to get something very exotic like kangaroo or crocodile for a novel protein. If you can hold off on feeding something like venison, so there is an easier to source novel protein should you ever need one (I hope you don't), you may want to consider doing this. Just my two cents. I hope that there is nothing too serious with Olive, though.
 
Butters & Lyla said:
If you can hold off on feeding something like venison
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Too late. :( She adores venison as does Ruby. There are a few more meats they have not tried yet, like goat, rabbit, and alpaca. :rolleyes: But somehow I don't think it's a protein issue. From what I understand, something like IBD causes protein sensitivities, not the other way around, and once you resolve the dysbiosis/distress in the gut, the sensitivity goes away. Or at least this is what I hope is the case.
 
PerfumedCatMom said:
IBD causes protein sensitivities, not the other way around, and once you resolve the dysbiosis/distress in the gut, the sensitivity goes away. Or at least this is what I hope is the case.
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Unfortunately, not necessarily. A cat doesn’t need to have underlying IBD to develop a food sensitivity or allergy to a protein(s). In addition, not all cats who have IBD will develop allergies or sensitivities to specific proteins or ingredients—even if fed the same protein daily, while others may be more prone to issues with one or many proteins or ingredients & the diet becomes a challenge. For a cat who does have true IBD vs a food-controlled enteropathy (change in diet clearly helps with FCE) , and may have the additional issue of sensitivities or allergies, certainly changing the diet is helpful :).
 
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