6/2 Ricky AMPS (235), +3 (203), +8 (148), PMPS (297)

[PamJV]

(Still on 3 units). I thought these were pretty good numbers for Ricky on Friday, but was surprised about the swing from 148 to 297. He did eat before the PMPS, so maybe that's why?

Pam

 

[Kris & Teasel]

(Still on 3 units). I thought these were pretty good numbers for Ricky on Friday, but was surprised about the swing from 148 to 297. He did eat before the PMPS, so maybe that's why?

Pam

To me it looks like his nadir was around +8 today and his BG kust rose slowly to a PMPS that was about the same range as AMPS. Lantus cycles are usually flatter once the BGs are in low blues or dark green ranges.

 

[Wendy&Neko]

It's best not to feed many carbs in the part of the cycle after nadir, or you'll shorten the duration. It's like slamming the brakes on the insulin action. Could be one reason for the zoom up to PMPS.

 

[PamJV]

It's best not to feed many carbs in the part of the cycle after nadir, or you'll shorten the duration. It's like slamming the brakes on the insulin action. Could be one reason for the zoom up to PMPS.

Wendy, Ricky is free feeding, so he choses when to eat. I hadn't noticed him eating all day prior to his +8 reading. It could be I just didn't happen to see, or else that he didn't eat and that was the reason for the lower than usual reading +8 (148). It was a surprise seeing a reading that low and on top of that late in the day.

Another thing that has me wondering is since I switched Ricky's dry food to Dr. Elsey's one of the cats is having loose stool. I don't know if it's Ricky or one of the others. This has me wondering if I can keep this food going or if it's a problem.

Pam

 

[Cherryl & Mouzer]

I was looking at Ricky's SS - So, when the vet does a curve, you have to leave your kitty with them for the day? I am asking because the vet we had was going to be doing a curve and I kept wondering, how is he going to do this. And so, if it is that you leave kitty with the vet for the day, then there is no all night thing going on, so to get a curve? Correct? This curve can be done during day hours?

 

[PamJV]

To me it looks like his nadir was around +8 today and his BG kust rose slowly to a PMPS that was about the same range as AMPS. Lantus cycles are usually flatter once the BGs are in low blues or dark green ranges.

Kris, Since most of Ricky's numbers have been in the yellows to me AMPS (235) seems much different than PMPS (297). I guess for those with cats in blue and green numbers that sounds like the same ballpark. I have had Ricky with flat number days in the yellows. This 148 on 6/2 was the lowest number he's gotten. I will see if it happens again. It could be he just didn't happen to eat as much as usual prior to that 148 number.
Pam

 

[PamJV]

I was looking at Ricky's SS - So, when the vet does a curve, you have to leave your kitty with them for the day? I am asking because the vet we had was going to be doing a curve and I kept wondering, how is he going to do this. And so, if it is that you leave kitty with the vet for the day, then there is no all night thing going on, so to get a curve? Correct? This curve can be done during day hours?

Cherryl, The way they do it, is to have you give the morning insulin at home and feed, and then bring the cat to the vet office and leave the cat up to near their closing time when you then pick up your cat. The vet will test the BG every two hours. I've only done this once with Ricky and I'm sure he didn't eat the whole time there, which is a different scenario that at home. Probably for those of you who have cats who eat wet food they could get a good breakfast in prior to going to the vet, but it doesn't work that way for free feeders like Ricky.

My vet told me that their vet office curve could give higher numbers than what you get at home due to the cat feeling nervous there.

Pam

 

[Cherryl & Mouzer]

Cherryl, The way they do it, is to have you give the morning insulin at home and feed, and then bring the cat to the vet office and leave the cat up to near their closing time when you then pick up your cat. The vet will test the BG every two hours. I've only done this once with Ricky and I'm sure he didn't eat the whole time there, which is a different scenario that at home. Probably for those of you who have cats who eat wet food they could get a good breakfast in prior to going to the vet, but it doesn't work that way for free feeders like Ricky.

My vet told me that their vet office curve could give higher numbers than what you get at home due to the cat feeling nervous there.

Pam

I dont like that idea, to leave Mouzer there all day. He would not be happy. And I do feed Mouzer wet food, but he is a free freeder, as far as I am concerned. I give it to him any time he wants it. Except, I have learned to make sure to only give him a teaspoon, if he wants food two hours before amps or pmps. He doesnt eat at all before amps but about two to two and a half hours before pmps, he is ready to eat and I have been just doing the one teaspoon with water added and it holds him over til time. I tell him, just hang on Mouzer, it wont be long now. He isnt interested in the dry, since the full change to wet only and for me to be able to get it to him, like he wants it.

So far, even in my having to leave the house for chores that are away, he waits til I get back, but when I do, he wants to eat. I am noticing, he is not eating like he is starving any more, like he was before he got insulin. Before insulin, I was having to put out the canned food as soon as he saw me. But now, it seems he is more like to get his breakfast and then somewhere around lunch time, he will want lunch and then, for some reason he wants something two hours or so, before supper, so he now gets that teaspoon and then after pmps he gets supper. But this is a big difference in all that eating he was doing.

Thank you for letting me know how that goes with the vet. When I do get Mouzer to a new vet, I am going to tell that new vet, I will do my own curve and I am not leaving Mouzer for the day. He likes to be home.

 

[Gill & George]

My vet told me that their vet office curve could give higher numbers than what you get at home due to the cat feeling nervous there.

That is true, with George I checked him at home, he was 80 and when I got to the vet office, I checked with my meter, and he was 150, from what I understand some kitties have an even larger difference

@Cherryl & Mouzer I wouldn't bother with the curve at the vets, save your $$$$, my vet encouraged me to do it at home as this would give a more accurate picture, because of the impact stress has on our kitties BG.
TBH you are testing plenty at the moment and you have excellent data for the last week, in fact, most days you've 'almost run a curve. I shouldn't worry about the curve. If the vet wants one doing, just run one from home and give him the results, most vets will be happy with that.

 

[Cherryl & Mouzer]

That is true, with George I checked him at home, he was 80 and when I got to the vet office, I checked with my meter, and he was 150, from what I understand some kitties have an even larger difference

@Cherryl & Mouzer I wouldn't bother with the curve at the vets, save your $$$$, my vet encouraged me to do it at home as this would give a more accurate picture, because of the impact stress has on our kitties BG.
TBH you are testing plenty at the moment and you have excellent data for the last week, in fact, most days you've 'almost run a curve. I shouldn't worry about the curve. If the vet wants one doing, just run one from home and give him the results, most vets will be happy with that.

Oh great! That is good, my curve at home with Mouzer. And wow on that 80 and 150 difference, just from George being at home and the vet's. I could imagine Mouzer doing that. He was meowing, repeatedly, at the vet, and he was purring constantly, which is not the happy purr. The tech seemed to think it was the happy purr and I told her, that is the nervous, scared purr, that is not the happy purr.