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OK starting in lovely yellow--Hope Tommy goes blue-green today!! Thanks for all your good wishes..Hugs!
 
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happy monday morning to you too, squirrel! it's looking to be a lovely day! we've got blue skies here . . . maybe tommy wants to come and visit!
 
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Tommy is not listening right now!
I need to pass along the good wishes that you've given him..
I really, really feel he wants to visit those lower floors today :lol:

Roni, Nothing but happy thoughts and big hugs for you and Moonie!

Julie, welcome back home, We sure did miss you and with the a.m. number looks as though Punkin isn't holding any grudges! :-D
 
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OK Tommy....remember how much you love those blue and green numbers?? Time to come back down!!

Hope you have an awesome day today, Squirrel!! Big hugs to you!
 
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Well, he's listening just a little bit now. :lol:
Thanks Marjorie, it is def. time to come back down..


Ok, I have to finish my story about the visit to the vet last Monday..I know, for those of you who read my dissertation, you were hoping i was done :lol: :lol: I waited until now because i had no information until friday when i called MSU, Sunday was Mothers Day and I know many of you have things going on in your lives that require much of your attention.
I wanted you to know, that while Tommy was at the Vet last monday and i was giving him syringes of water to fill his empty bladder so they could take the sample for the culture.. Any way, I was there for almost 4 hrs.. I had given my vet the info on the Acro/IAA tests that i had printed out from both here and MSU site. He came back from Lunch, took the urine sample from Tommy Annnnnnnnnnd blood samples (which i didn't ask him to do just yet, I only wanted him to be aware that i was looking into getting them done.. I decided that since he had the blood drawn already, what the heck is a little more money @-) He didn't really feel it was necessary, but i'm guessing after lunch (he must have read the papers i gave him. He had already had the submittal form printed out and both tests checked off..
Now my problem, I know the tests are on Wednesdays.


First he never called to tell me that he had gotten them sent off, second, I called MSU to see if indeed Tommy's samples were sent there.. They had been. :-D They made it there within the 48hr window the woman said was safe, however past the cut off time for testing. ohmygod_smile She told me the tests would be done the following Wednesday (11th). I asked her if the samples would still be fine, she has assured me that they would be.
She said one of the samples needed to be kept refrigerated and asked if i knew if it had been. Well no, I'm not the one who drew the blood and then shipped it off without calling the client.. Arggggggghhh!!!

Since Tommy had thrown up all of his breakfast, the vet felt it was safe (fasting long enough).. Said the water i had given him should make no difference nor the insulin i had given him that morning..

He has not had me pay yet for these tests, because he wasn't sure if he could get them up there in time. So I guess that's a good thing for now.
I'm worried that because the exact way it should have been gone about and the lack of timely manner that they got there, that i'm not going to get a true reading on the samples.. nailbite_smile nailbite_smile If any one can put my mind at ease.. That would be WOOOOOOOOOOOOONDERFULLLLLLL!!!

Ok, now i'm done.. No, really I am :lol: :lol:
 
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I've been in the medical field for 20 years and I know that human blood would not be held that long for testing. You can't count on the lab values being accurate if blood has been sitting for that long a period. I don't know why cats would be any different. This, of course, is my opinion as I am not a doctor!!
 
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to chime in as vet tech who is also the lab tech or was until I had to take off for medical reasons its not uncommon for many labs to not run a test until the following week when I sent Do Lous IAA/Acro test in which I sent overnight waste of time that was for me test is only ran on certain days it did not run until following week Texas A&M for the TLI or PLI test are only run are certain days so they just hold the serum in the frig or freezer depending on test as far as accuracy for how long serum keeps I myself do not know on that but I am sure the university's or antech even could answer the ? if I was at work I would call since you have me curious on how long it lasts but alas I am not anymore
 
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Thanks for giving me your thoughts so far you guys.. The person that i spoke with on Friday up at MSU, assured me it would be fine.It was the diagnostics dept i was speaking to if that matters. I was also worried about the samples being bad by the time they got to testing them.. I just have a really bad feeling that i'm going to have to do this all over again..
 
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I look at it this way. If your vet did not follow the instructions about refrigerating the samples, then the repeat should be on your vet's dime. You provided the information and you did not ask for the test to be done at that minute.
 
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sounds like you'll have more info this week after they run the tests. one thing you can ask them is about false positive/negative results - ie, how would they know if the blood had been held too long? would you get a false positive on each test or a false negative?
 
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Lisa and Do Lou said:
its not uncommon for many labs to not run a test until the following week when I sent Do Lous IAA/Acro test in which I sent overnight waste of time that was for me test is only ran on certain days it did not run until following week Texas A&M for the TLI or PLI test are only run are certain days so they just hold the serum in the frig or freezer depending on test as far as accuracy for how long serum keeps
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what lisa described has happened around here often. if the blood was not received on time for that week's acro/IAA testing it's heldover for the next week. if the blood was sent to MSU properly, there shouldn't be any problem.
 
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Oh don't you worry, I won't be giving him one more penny if he messed this up and it has to be done again.
I had most assuredly made up my mind after last Monday that i was in search of a new vet once again.. When do you think i should call MSU again to see if the samples were usable. Is there a way to tell? Is there a certain dept i should ask for? What bothers me a lot is i'm afraid if i called my vet and asked if he refrigerated the one sample, he might lie to me to shut me up and get the money from me. :-x :-x
Will the lab performing the tests be able to tell if the samples are "worthy".. I absolutely hate this..
Where exactly would one post a condo asking if any one in my area knows of or has a "good" vet they can recommend..

Jill, I just saw your post. That's what bothers me. I have no idea if the one sample was sent refrigerated, which it should have been. I don't feel i can trust my vet to give me the truth right now. That makes knots in my stomach thinking that way, but i just do.
 
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photosquirrel14 said:
Oh don't you worry, I won't be giving him one more penny if he messed this up and it has to be done again.
I had most assuredly made up my mind after last Monday that i was in search of a new vet once again.. When do you think i should call MSU again to see if the samples were usable. Is there a way to tell? Is there a certain dept i should ask for? What bothers me a lot is i'm afraid if i called my vet and asked if he refrigerated the one sample, he might lie to me to shut me up and get the money from me. :-x :-x
Will the lab performing the tests be able to tell if the samples are "worthy".. I absolutely hate this..
Where exactly would one post a condo asking if any one in my area knows of or has a "good" vet they can recommend..

Jill, I just saw your post. That's what bothers me. I have no idea if the one sample was sent refrigerated, which it should have been. I don't feel i can trust my vet to give me the truth right now. That makes knots in my stomach thinking that way, but i just do.
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call MSU and ask if the sample was received properly. if it wasn't there's no point in having the test done on that sample. if that's the case, ask MSU to call your vet and tell him the sample was NOT shipped properly.

on a side note... if you don't trust your vet, it's time to look for a new one. kwim? i know that sounds harsh, but you (we) need a vet to partner up with us in caring for our kitties.
 
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Jill that's ok, thanks for the pm though.. That is another problem. When i called up there Last friday the person that i spoke with said they have no way of knowing the temp of the samples they get.. and the lab techs wouldn't test the samples if they were bad.. I have no idea what that means. If there is a certain dept i should speak too, please, I am so ready to rip :-x. I don't know how the samples arrive and the order in which things are done there.. Do you think if i called up there, somebody might know if the sample arrived refrigerated or not?
I'm just so frustrated right now.
Thank you all for just being here..
 
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sorry about that. i had to go offline and only have a minute now, but wanted to get back to you...

all i can do is offer my own thoughts given the circumstances. vet offices are used to sending blood out for tests. it's routine. chances are there's a couple people on staff who do the honors (not the vet). at this point (if it were me), i'd presume they know how to do their job. i'd also presume MSU knows how to do their job. if they feel they received a bad sample, i'm sure they'll let your vet know.

if the samples were bad, it's on your vet. he'd be responsible for repeating the procedure properly simply because it was botched on his end.
personally, i wouldn't be concerned unless MSU says there's something to be concerned about.

just my thoughts...
 
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Jill, i sure do appreciate the confidence boost.. The ONLY reason i say that about my vet is well, he seemed a bit confused about the whole process, what procedures to take, who to call, etc.. and he's been doing this over 20yrs now.. I hope i don't have to call them for the results, as i have yet to hear about the urine culture that was done last week.. I will be calling tomorrow for the results. I hope they have them.. It's only supposed to take at most 3 days.. It's been since last Monday that i took Tommy in. You ever just have that "bad" feeling about something?

Thanks again!!
 
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photosquirrel14 said:
Jill, i sure do appreciate the confidence boost.. The ONLY reason i say that about my vet is well, he seemed a bit confused about the whole process, what procedures to take, who to call, etc.. and he's been doing this over 20yrs now.. I hope i don't have to call them for the results, as i have yet to hear about the urine culture that was done last week.. I will be calling tomorrow for the results. I hope they have them.. It's only supposed to take at most 3 days.. It's been since last Monday that i took Tommy in. You ever just have that "bad" feeling about something?
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i totally understand! my vet gets that confused look on his face whenever i ask him to do something "different", too. it took me a while to realize half the problem was he wasn't familiar with that particular test and he doesn't do the follow-up. it's the staff that follows through with sending things out. the staff always knew what to do. :smile:
 
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Generally, MSU won't release the results to you. They will fax them to your vet. (Even though you're the customer, it's standard practice to give results only to the person making the referral.) Is there an office person or vet tech you like? Could you ask them to let you know that you're expecting results from MSU and would like to know when they come in so you don't keep calling and bugging them.

Also, if a urine culture was run, it can take 3 days for the results.
 
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Sienne, yeah i know the results will be going straight to the vet and i have to get them from him. I just hope they remember to call..
Yes a urine sample was taken on Monday.. I knew about the 3 day wait. He told me i should have them no later than last Friday.. See my pessimism.. There are a couple of ladies that i like up there.. That's a good idea. When i call tomorrow to inquire about the culture results i will let them know they should be expecting some test results and would they please call me with them when they get in.

Please, everyone have a wonderful evening,
Big Hugs from Me and Tommy :YMHUG:
 
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