5/7 Latte AMPS-367 ,PMPS~368,+3~237

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carolynandlatte

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After I gave fluids latte was wobbly and kind of looked to be walking sideways. Then she fell over. I picked her up and same thing. She tries to walk side ways then loses all ability to use back legs and falls over.

Getting ready to be at the vet when they open. :(
 
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Sending Healing vines to Latte and hope she will be well--Please update-((((Carolyn & Latte))))
 
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I'm so sorry, Carolyn. Sending tons of healing vines. (((((Carolyn and Latte)))))
 
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Oh god Carolyn....so glad you are home and that you can take her right away....
I am SO thankful that you were there with her....
My Sweeties....thinking of you both (((((Carolyn & Latte)))))

here is yesterday's condo:

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(((((Carolyn & Latte))))) Sending healing vines to you. :sad:
 
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((Carolyn)) ((Latte))
Sending tons of love and healing vines to both of you.
We are all here right beside you, holding hands and lots of hugs.
 
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reg. vet is not here. Back up is. Cant see anything on basic neuro exam. It,s very sad to see how she is trying to walk...but cant. Literally she walks sideways, then falls. She is very upset (stressed/scared). Vet took her in back to watch her walk more and see what other vets in clinic think.

Doesnt seem like neuropathy related to fd, or arthritis type pain, and not a blood clot. This is all from just his observation. It is very strange. Will try to take video.

The less ideas he has of what could be wrong, the more scared I get.

Thats all I can update you with. Sorry.
 
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Sending all the healing vines and snowflakes we can muster down here! {{{{CarolynandLatte}}}}
 
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Sarah and Velcro said:
run a blood panel. check out electrolytes. LLEF will help.

Thank you Sarah. We need all the help we can get at this point. They believe she is very uncomfortable and in pain. May have injured back or hips (no idea how). They are doing xrays right now. Will go from there and possibly do blood panel for electro. This is one thing I cant NOT be thurough with, because she cannot function in this condition (use lb, eat, drink,etc)
 
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Sending Snowflakes and get better vines to Latte. I hope the vets can figure out what's wrong and fix it.
(((Carolyn and Latte)))
 
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((((Carolyn & latte))))
my thoughts and prayers are with you guys. Sending truckloads of snowflakes and healing vines Latte's way!

Hope you find something out soon.

Love,
Caryl, Alex&Jacksom
 
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Carolyn-

My thoughts are with you. I am saying a prayer for Latte now. Hang in there. They will figure it out.
 
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omg Carolyn... i feel for Latte, and for you. i am sorry - many healing vines your way, even more positive thoughts. i wish i could help. ((((((carolyn)))))) ((((((latte))))))
 
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I am so sorry. Tears.
You are the best momma bean there is. I know she is comforted by your amazing strength and love.
Holding you close in thought, prayers, snowflakes, and healing vines.
 
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Oh Carolyn your poor baby! I'm praying that they get to the bottom of this quickly and they can help your little girl. Holding both of you close.
 
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Thank you for updating. I keep scanning the Board for word.

Tons of positive thoughts and healing vines.
 
Brief Update

I just got a call from Carolyn. She and Latte are on their way home soon. X-rays revealed no space between two vertebrae, a significant change from X-ray images a year ago. Course of treatment will be pain medication. Carolyn will check in after she gets home, and she and Latte settle in a bit. I let her know of the outpouring of support and prayers here for Latte and her. She thanks everyone for that.
 
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Tons of prayers and healing vines being sent your way! Hope Latte is ok! Hugs to you Carolyn I am so sorry you have to deal with this!! Please update us, thanks Venita for helping out!
 
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oh (((((carolyn and latte)))))
i'm so sorry. more prayers, healing vines, positive thoughts, and snowflakes coming your way.
 
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Thanks for the update....we are sending prayers and loving healing thoughts their way.....
(((((Carolyn & Latte)))))
 
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Carolyn,

This has happened to Belle three times for three different reasons. 1. Is Latte on Metronidazole(Flagyl)? Belle had a toxic reaction to it and became Ataxic(couldn't walk straight and would fall over). She also went blind for awhile. If so, get her off of it as it could be the problem and it will resolve after 24 hours or so. 2. The second time Belle tore her Cranial Cruciate ligament and was falling over and couldn't walk. Time healed that. 3. Buprenorphine. She was so drugged she couldn't do anything.

If she's on metronidazole, that could be it. It came on suddenly for Belle and was very distressing as you well know.

I hope you figure out what happened and get her well soon.

Edit: Didn't see the update. I hope she feels better with the pain medication.

Jason
 
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Carolyn -

I feel for you - take care of yourself and Latte.

We're thinking of you.
 
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Glad she is home with you!! Hope the meds work & Latte will be up & around real real soon--Healing Prayers & HUGS~!
 
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Hugs and positive vibes being sent your way Carolyn. I hope Latte will be okay. They sure do give us a scare at times.
 
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Carolyn, sending positive vines and hugs and kisses to Latte and you.
 
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(((CAROLYN)))
hoping latte feels better soon. oh, that sucks. :(
could you even get bupe? i hear it's backordered everywhere.
 
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Hi Everyone,
Im sorry its taken so long to update personally. This is really hard. :sad:
When I got Latte home,I let her out of her carrier right by her water bowl because I knew she was thirsty. She couldnt stand, fell over,and knocked the container of water over too. Her walking seemed even worse to me. Well, you really cant call it walking. She was laying on her right side and scooted. If she tried to get her legs under her and had ANY success she would just fall and lay there. She did this for about 10 min around the house. I tried to figure out where she wanted to go and help her there, but that just made her more scared. Finally I just put her in the carrier as I tried to move some things around in the apt, including my bed....took it off the frame and put it on the floor. I figured this way if she was under the piano we would be at the same level and I could sleep next to her. I think I started hyperventilating during this process,shaking,and crying a lot. I cant even begin to explain how hard it was to see her frantically trying to get around the way she did. And worse, knowing she needed something - food, water...but couldnt get it and wouldnt let me help.

I gave her a shot of bupe and called Amy (amy's winston) to see if she would come over after work. Bless her huge heart (its making me cry again as I type this)...she dropped everything at work and came over immediately. We tried to come up with a way to make a space for her where everything would be right there (food, water, litter, bed). I think it is finally done, under the piano. Never in a million years did I think I would spend a night or more with my head almost literally in a litter box. But that is the way it is set up and MIGHt work for her, if she can get in it or chooses to use it. We may try to hang a gerbil type water bowl from the piano, LOL. Still, Im sure she will insist on sliding herself and figuring out a way to drink water from her silly cottage cheese containers. Amy ran out to get some stuff for us because I dont think Latte can be left alone. If she gets up, or tries to do anything she could easily make things worse...if in fact she has injured her back.

The vet thought, from the xrays, the last vertebraes from the pelvic area? Tail? has no more space between them. I guess that would be cartilidge or fluids to protect them from rubbing against each other...so its gone now? He said her xrays may have looked like that 2, 4, 6+ months ago, but we dont know because the last one's were a year ago. Its possible its been this way and she moved wrong...maybe a buldged disc? There is really no way of knowing other than MRI. And from there she would need surgery. Neither of these are options for both financial and well...age/current condition. She is wearing down in every which way. she is old. So the best we can do is give her pain meds. Bupe and tramadol are really all I can give because of kidney failure from the NSAID. This is the time that Im not too afraid of the pain meds because this is 100% QOL issue. If she has not improved by Monday ...here come more tears...I need to make a decision due QOL. Amy is really trying to help me not go there, and be in the present. Im really doing my best.

I should note that a similar thing happened at the time of Latte's FD diagnosis. For 2 days she could only scoot on her butt. It slowly got better on the third, fourth, fifth day..but she never quite walked the same since. I would say this time is worse because there is a huge balance issue. ITs like its very one sided. At least she could kind of sit the last time. She really cant this time around. I guess Im holding onto hope that we will have a similar outcome. it was never really determined why or what caused the last episode.

So she spent some time under the piano. She ate a little kibble that I put under her nose. She also ate about 1/2 jar baby food at the vet. And funny girl, was sniffing the treats on the check out counter at the clinic, through her carrier. It was really cute. I gave her a handful (it was actually kibble). She gobbled that up on the way home. She did manage to move from under the piano to the throne eventually. It was an incredible effort. Earlier she tried when I was in the kitchen and I came to find her laying at the bottome of the chair staring up at it. Very sad. So maybe the bupe is helping? She is sleeping very soundly and has appeared comfortable when just laying there. Very gracious of pets and Amy and I oggling over her.

I dont know what to do about her insulin. She went down to 130ish today. Maybe lower, I dont know because it was not priority to check. Her +9.5 was 170. Im not certain I can get a lot of food in her. I have no idea if she will continue to eat kibble from my hand or babyfood from the spoon. She wont physically be able to stand at her food bowl and eat. I guess same dose tonight since she will probably bounce and just be ready to karo her gums if I need to? I dont really want to deal with a hypo situation on top of this. But her high numbers wont help much either, as she will become terribly thirsty with little ability to quench it on her own.

Im so grateful for all the support. My phone was going in/out of service while at the vets. But when I could check, it meant the world to me. I wished each and every one of you could have been there to give her a kiss on the head. Eventually I had to stop reading because I was fighting tears the entire time. I will try to read all of them to her later tonight. Though she is pretty doped up. Thank you soooo soooo much for your kind words. Thank you Venita for calling us. And HUGE thanks to Amy for running our errands so I dont have to go anywhere all weekend, but next to Latte. I hope someday I can repay everyone who has tried to make this process easier for Latte and I.

Regarding the bupe....It is on back order everywhere. The vet said they cant get it straight from the company, but can get it through their compounding pharmacy. So you could have your vet check into that. I was given 2ml, which they put in a vial this time. Now I can draw up my own amount, without wasting half a syringe. I gave her .03ml.

I will keep trying to check in and let you know how her night progresses. I wont be getting any sleep.
 
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(((((( Carolyn))))) and Latte it sounds like you are doing everything you can possibly do at this time for your baby to make her a comfortable home I am praying for her now that she can get better for you sending as many healing vines and snowflakes as can be found :idea: cat_pet_icon
 
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Carolyn - I am so sorry you are going through so many issues with Latte at the same time. You have to do what you heart tells you to do. We don't want her to suffer anymore than she needs to. Quality of life is what it may come down to. We are all here holding your hand for whatever you need. :YMHUG: I hope this doesn't come across the wrong way...
 
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(((Carolyn))) I am sorrier than I can say that she is having such a hard time. I'm glad you have the weekend to be with her. I can only pray that the pain med helps her feel better. It is encouraging that she is showing a bit of interest in food. You are the best Mom in the world. You give her incredibly good care. (((Latte))).
 
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Sending more prayers and hugs your way, it is breaking my heart reading your post. Glad she is home!!! Sending lots of healing vines to Latte!!!!!!!!
 
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Carolyn,

I can't tell you how much I'll be hoping and praying it's something she can overcome. As has been said on this board a million times, cats are very resilient and sometimes they just need time to recover. You mentioned that last time it took many days for Latte to recover. She's older now, and it may take a bit longer, so there is no reason to think about anything but supporting her the best you can. Monday is just a day, you are not required to do anything then.

You and Latte are in my thoughts,

Jason
 
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Dear Carolyn, Words fail me. I just want you to know that we are thinking of you and praying that Latte will rally and that your weekend together will help you both. Sending vines, snowflakes, and love,

Ella & Stu
 
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Also sending vines, snowflakes, and love to you and Latte.
You both are in my thoughts and prayers.
 
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Carolyn... I'm so sad to read about all you and Latte are going through right now. We all love her! My foster cat, Kitty, also has no space between two of her vertebrae. Adequan has helped her a lot. Despite the instructions on the package insert, you can give it subq at home. Sending you and Latte blizzards of snowflakes and hugs.
 
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Vines, snowflakes, good thoughts, positive energy, the sun, the moon and the stars......whatever it takes for you and your girl.
 
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