5/6 SHEBA bounce over, back on the diving board

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Bron and Sheba (GA)

Bron and Sheba (GA)

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Yesterday: http://www.felinediabetes.com/FDMB/...e-to-9-52-pmps-166-5-157.137347/#post-1416822

After the dramatic dive yesterday Sheba settled down to some lovely numbers and even had some green numbers:D:D which made me feel a bit better about it all. Then she had another good cycle last night although no green but I was happy with the blue. Good AMPS ( for her) and then she found the trampoline that Neko had borrowed. I turn my back for five minutes and she is off to Canada to get the trampoline back! Cats! :rolleyes::cat:
@Wendy&Neko, we don't mind sharing the trampoline (I am sure you don't want it though Wendy) but next time, will you ask Neko to hide it in a much harder place, or better still, get rid of it please?:joyful::joyful::joyful:

Sheba is back on the trampoline as a result of her trip to Canada (and yesterday's dive) so I will have a save the strips day. Hopefully she will clear it quickly and we can get back to business.
I don't know what I hate more....the bouncing or the diving:banghead::mad::arghh:
 
It's amazing how quickly then get out of practice with green. :rolleyes: I find if Neko is more than a few days without green, then the bouncing is worse when she finally sees it. Hey Sheba - there's no such thing as a green allergy!

Paws crossed for a quick turnaround - but maybe after tonight.

Awesome trampoline Sheba! ~Neko
 
Sheba and Neko, no need to fight over the trampoline. My Frankie's got one that I would love to get rid of. He's been bouncing for 3 days now!!!
 
Thanks Julie, Sue and Carla for the encouragement. Every day I think to myself....today is the day we get rid of the bounces for good. I guess we have to have hope:rolleyes:;)
 
Wendy&Neko said:
It's amazing how quickly then get out of practice with green. :rolleyes: I find if Neko is more than a few days without green, then the bouncing is worse when she finally sees it. Hey Sheba - there's no such thing as a green allergy!

Paws crossed for a quick turnaround - but maybe after tonight.

Awesome trampoline Sheba! ~Neko
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Let's do it again soon Neko ...that was fun......but don't tell the beans..........Sheba
 
Obviously Sheba is enjoying herself bouncing around, hope you get some blues today Bron, how frustrating for you. There seems an awful lot of it about on the board today, hope it's not contagious!
 
Thanks Suki, Marilyn, Sue and Vicki for sending no bouncing vines and encouragement.
It must be working. I just took a +3.5 expecting a high number again but she is back up on that diving board again:eek::rolleyes:
 
There must be something in the water that they've all been swimming in... Zoey has been climbing up that high dive ladder and jumping off, too. Like having a two-year old at home again... always gotta watch 'em. Hope today's the day she flattens out and floats a while for you. :)
 
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There must be something in the water that they've all been swimming in... Zoey has been climbing up that high dive ladder and jumping off, too. Like having a two-year old at home again... always gotta watch 'em. Hope today's the day she flattens out and floats a while for you. :)
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It is like having a two year old at home!
Sheba has gone from 387 preshot to 157 at +4.5 and I have given her 1 teaspoon 13 carb and 5 teaspoon 22 carb to try and slow the drop.
Hope Zoey stops diving for you soon.
 
You had asked how I dealt with Gabby's diving and bouncing....

The first piece of this is the caregiver and an appreciation that bounces are normal. I'm guessing that when Sheba was first diagnosed in 2011, you didn't have to deal with bouncing too much since she went OTJ pretty quickly. Bouncing is the body's way of intervening with numbers it "thinks" are too low. It's a built in protective mechanism. So, for us, it's really, really annoying and for our kitties, the ups and downs probably make them feel lousy.

The other part of the equation is what you can do. Gabby is a kitty who is know for fast, early drops in numbers. She has an early nadir. Sheba's nadirs look like they are later in the cycle (although this isn't always the case). I don't just feed the curve. You may need to really be attentive to Sheba's patterns and alter how you're feeding to when her nadir typically falls. For example, because Gabby has an early nadir, her food is front loaded (i.e., at pre-shot, +1, +2 and sometimes at +3 -- on workdays, she's fed at PS, +1 and +2 and I sometimes leave food out). Front loading the cycle helps to buffer the way she drops. You'll need to consider when you're feeding based on Sheba's onset and nadir.

The other perspective with Gabby is that I would use HC to prevent her from earning reductions. I try to give her as much insulin as I can but keep her numbers out of dose-reduction range as a means of encouraging her to stay in normal range numbers for as long as possible. The goal is as flat of a cycle as possible. If you look at our first year or so post-diagnosis versus now, Gabby's SS looks very different.

Let me know if you have other questions.
 
@Sienne and Gabby
Thank you so much for explaining it all so well. You are right. The first time it was a breeze. I remember one hi but apart from that it was all very easy and she responded well to the insulin. I didn't even really keep proper note of the BSLs, just noted them in my diary some of the time. I always tested preshot. I had never heard of a bounce until I found FDMB. My vet hadn't either.

I am trying to feed her up before the drop but I feed her home raw and cooked food so not many carbs. I have started to add about 30 grams of 4 carb food to the +2/3 meal but it really isn't enough and I don't want to go back to canned food as she has done so well on the raw. Also she has very early CRD and I am watching the phosphorus in the canned I do give. I have found it hard to find a low phosphorus high carb food. At the moment I use a FF which I know is high phosphorus. Anyway this has given me something to think about and try and do better.

I think it was Julie who suggested as well that I stop her from getting reductions by feeding her when she drops low.
Thank you again for that great information. I will read it again in the morning when I am not as tired. It is 12.30 am here and way past my bedtime, but there is no point in going to bed until the drop slows.
 
Just as an FYI, I don't use gravy-based foods with Gabby. She ends up with GI issues since most of the HC gravy based stuff has gluten in it. I use Karo syrup or honey vs HC and add a couple of drops to LC food. That may solve the problem for you with regard to phosphorus.
 
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