5/10, Boomer, PMPS - 122

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Traci and Boomer

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Hi Everyone-

I'm sad to be back, but I had to do it. This is the highest he's been in a long time. I gave him one drop since that was his last good dose.

Nothing's changed since he went OTJ except for HIGHER CARB FOOD! See vets???? High carb food DOES make a difference. The dry will be returned. He ate very well yesterday so I don't need dry out also. He didn't eat much of it anyway. I've given him wets foods that are 10+ carbs - I need to look them up. Most of the time he eats Sophisticat sliced varieties which are 10-16 carbs. I found some grain-free flaked Blue Buffalo-I need to look up the carbs - hopefully they are on the list.

So.....I did the right thing, yes? Even without asking any vet. I feel bad that he needs insulin but whatever. I just want him to feel good.

Did I shoot the right amount?
 
Re: 5/10, Boomer, AMPS 182 - dose help

There is a little building to the left of the condos, at the Falls -- OTJ kitties can check-in there for a little while until they are back up on their paws.
 
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Traci I am no help with dosing but just want to offer HUGS and support I know you are going thru a really tough time with your boy right now :YMHUG: :YMHUG: cat_pet_icon
 
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You'll know if you shot the right amount soon. The amount you shot is what I would have done.
 
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Traci, he needed to eat and you are doing the very best thing for him. Breathing and eating cannot be ignored, then you deal with whatever comes next. It was so good to hear that he is eating on his own and isn't that interested in the dry. I also would have given the tiny drop of insulin to help him along at this point. He might need this tiny bit of help for a very brief time while he gets his health back. Maybe even just this one time, who knows. Good luck, fingers and paws crossed for you both.

(((Traci))) you are doing great!
 
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Hi Carolyn-

Thanks for the support. BTW-Scrabble's video was totally cool!

I tested him last night (not added to ss yet) and he was in the 100's but not as high as this morning. I even woke up in the middle of the night to check him to see if the number had lowered and it was still high. :YMSIGH: Oh, well.

The vet I saw last Monday told me (rudely) that he was NOT the type of cat who would need insulin just because of high carb food. She's working as a "back-up vet" today at my vet's office. I'm toying with leaving her a message about this. But then I think, why bother?

I'm glad I had my Lantus pens ready. Hey-at least he got one month free of juice.
 
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(((((((Traci))))))) Even OTJ boomer is still in the sugar dance. He's got other problems right now and you are just helping by taking one pressure off him. Boomer will be back at the Falls soon!
 
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If Boomer were my cat, I would have done what you did. At least you know this is one issue you can help with for sure! I'm sure he'll be OTJ again soon--he's just got so much going on right now that his body doesn't know what to do with itself. Hang in there, it'll all smooth out!
 
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TRACI!!!! I think you did the right thing! Maybe Boomer will only need it for a short time, look at Deb and Spot! Boomer has been through so much along with you. Hugs to you, we will be here supporting you!!!!
 
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I am glad Boomer is eating again. It is sad to lose the OTJ, but as long as he is eating and the small drop can help manage his numbers, then giving the insulin is the best thing for him.

Hope you will be back to you falls condo soon. If not, paws crossed that he will be able to produce good numbers on the small dose.
 
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I'm sorry boomer is back but you did what you should have done. Like others say, you deal with what needs to be dealt with and deal with whatever happens after that. So he needed a drop of insulin, that's ok. He'll be back OTJ as soon as his little body is running at 100%. Keep in mind everything he has been through ...
 
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((Traci))
I was not sure what I was reading at first.
As hard as this must be for you, you are doing everything you can to take care of Boomer.
Insulin or no insulin. He is eating, he went through tons of procedures....
This is not a competition who is on or off insulin.
This is all about the love we feel for our kitties and putting their health and happiness above
everything else.
Hugs to you scritches for Boomer.
You are a great Mama bean so just don't forget that. :-D
 
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Hey, traci, I'm stopping in to lend you some support and to let you know that you did exactly what you needed to do...Boomer just needs a little help right now to get him back to those good numbers. You know, he did it once and he will do it again...Look at Spot. His numbers jumped to 191 and at that point, I made a decision to give him a drop of juice to help, even after my vet said that she didn't think it was time to put him back on it at that time. He only needed it for a week and the countdown began again.

That building next to the falls, that D was talking about...it's a nice place, believe me, and there is an apt. right next to Spot that happens to be vacant. I will have Spot go over and put on fresh sheets and fill the fridge up with his fav foods before he leaves for Tugger's party.
 
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Traci, you totally did the right thing, as everyone else has said. I know it must be hard to have to do, but hopefully he just needed a little top-off and he will be running on all cylinders on his own before long (nothing like mixing car metaphors).

I, too, would be tempted to call the vet, maybe not so much for your own situation but to perhaps show her what a difference HC food can make and hopefully educate her for the next kitty. However, I know you have a lot on your plate right now and it might be easier/less stressful to just let it go, at least for now.

(((Traci))) (((Dave))) (((Boomer)))
P.S. Hope Princess is doing okay too(hope I got the name right; I've been second-guessing myself for, like, a minute :smile: ).
 
Hi Everybody From the Building Next to the Condos-

:lol: So tonight's number was better than this morning. I gave him another drop. I'll test again at +3. It's nerve-wracking. At least I don't have to worry about a hypo-even though my Mom's cat DID hypo on one drop. :roll:

WCR-eating better tonight than this morning; he doesn't seem as picky. And because I'm happy I'm going to list what he ate today so far: 2 cans of 5.5 oz Sophisitcat, about half a can of blue buffalo (small can), some partially cooked/raw chicken with Instincts powder on it. NO PUKE!!!! Thank GOD!!!! I can't even tell you how happy I am that he isn't puking. On my scale he's up to a svelte 8lbs from 7.8 or so.

Tomorrow Dr. Smarty Pants (IM doc) will call me with his test results. I'm nervous about it. I wonder if I should tell her he's back on the juice? She wasn't rude about his diabetes to me-it was the other vet who was, though she did say that she didn't think he'd go back to insulin from a change in food.

What are the rules for Boomer now? Does he need to be a week in the green before going off again?
 
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Sarah and Buzz said:
Traci, you totally did the right thing, as everyone else has said. I know it must be hard to have to do, but hopefully he just needed a little top-off and he will be running on all cylinders on his own before long (nothing like mixing car metaphors).

I, too, would be tempted to call the vet, maybe not so much for your own situation but to perhaps show her what a difference HC food can make and hopefully educate her for the next kitty. However, I know you have a lot on your plate right now and it might be easier/less stressful to just let it go, at least for now.

(((Traci))) (((Dave))) (((Boomer)))
P.S. Hope Princess is doing okay too(hope I got the name right; I've been second-guessing myself for, like, a minute :smile: ).
Hi Sarah-
Very sweet of you to remember Princess. She's doing well despite the fact the vet couldn't believe she was up and walking back in February. She doesn't show many symptoms. Occassional back leg weakness and lower appetite.

Regarding Boomer-you know exactly how it feels. How long was Buzz OTJ before she returned?
 
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Deb & Spot said:
Hey, traci, I'm stopping in to lend you some support and to let you know that you did exactly what you needed to do...Boomer just needs a little help right now to get him back to those good numbers. You know, he did it once and he will do it again...Look at Spot. His numbers jumped to 191 and at that point, I made a decision to give him a drop of juice to help, even after my vet said that she didn't think it was time to put him back on it at that time. He only needed it for a week and the countdown began again.

That building next to the falls, that D was talking about...it's a nice place, believe me, and there is an apt. right next to Spot that happens to be vacant. I will have Spot go over and put on fresh sheets and fill the fridge up with his fav foods before he leaves for Tugger's party.

Hi Deb-
Yeah, ya gotta do what ya gotta do. I'm very happy Boomer seems to feel better-I am very grateful. Did you do a 2 week trial all over? Blech. Boomer says thanks to Spot for fluffing up the place for him. Boomer hopes his story ends the same as Spot's!
 
((((Traci)))) you're doing the right thing, Boomer needed a little more help so you're giving it to him. This is a nice PMPS number, already. :smile:
 
Traci -- just stopping by with hugs, and admiration for your devotion and courage in doing everything you can for Boomer! I saw Kitty out on the porch of his OTJ condo. He was waving to Boomer. :YMHUG: You're just a hop, skip and jump from the Falls!
 
hi traci. like the others have already said... you're doing the right thing by offering a little support. see how things go.
unless something changes, there are no "rules".
 
Awww, that is SO sweet. Boomer's waving back and trying to figure out if he can make it if he jumps over! :lol: I told him - just be patient, we'll get there again!

Kathy and Kitty said:
Traci -- just stopping by with hugs, and admiration for your devotion and courage in doing everything you can for Boomer! I saw Kitty out on the porch of his OTJ condo. He was waving to Boomer. :YMHUG: You're just a hop, skip and jump from the Falls!
 
Hi Jill-

Thanks for the clarification. So if he is green in the morning, should I not shoot, or just keep it up for a certain amount of time first? Let me clarify my question - should I shoot on a green or just blues? :? Not really sure what to do.



Jill & Alex said:
hi traci. like the others have already said... you're doing the right thing by offering a little support. see how things go.
unless something changes, there are no "rules".
 
You did good and Boomer is clearly feeling better.

I do think you need to tell the IM vet that Boomer is back on insulin. If this is someone who will be involved in Boomer's care, the vet needs to know what meds Boomer is taking. Medications can interact so it's better to be safe than sorry. I also think you can politely let the vet know what happened to Boomer's numbers when higher carb food was given. Maybe you'll teach the vet something.
 
Traci and Boomer said:
Hi Jill-

Thanks for the clarification. So if he is green in the morning, should I not shoot, or just keep it up for a certain amount of time first? Let me clarify my question - should I shoot on a green or just blues? :? Not really sure what to do.

i can pass along what my vet told me (jojo said much the same) when alex got sick this last time...
he told me to go ahead and shoot 0.1u bid no matter what her preshot numbers. the idea is to offer support as to not put undo stress on the remaining beta cells that are working. in alex's case, her illness made her numbers worse and i couldn't stand looking at them, so i upped the dose... eventually treating her as i would any "normal" diabetic kitty.

want to give you a head's up... "if" boomer's numbers drop lower than you would like, don't hesitate to pull out the hc or even karo if you need to get them up. feeding lc to a partially functioning pancreas may make her numbers drop further.
 
Jill-

I just read your post and said "I'd be so lucky" if he dropped that much that I'd have to pull out the Med to Higher Carb Wet. Well.....at +3 he is 57. :o Here we go on the rollercoaster. I agree that I should support him through this time, I'll get up in a couple hours to make sure he's ok.

This is my chance to get him to eat the higher carb stuff to get some food into him I guess. He's chowing right now. Nom, nom. I really want to fatten this kid up. He needs to gain a pound!
 
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Traci and Boomer said:
Hi Sarah-
Very sweet of you to remember Princess. She's doing well despite the fact the vet couldn't believe she was up and walking back in February. She doesn't show many symptoms. Occassional back leg weakness and lower appetite.

Good! I hope she continues to do well and as pain-free as can be expected. :smile:

Traci and Boomer said:
Regarding Boomer-you know exactly how it feels. How long was Buzz OTJ before she returned?

Only one month. :sad:
 
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