5/1 Trixie AMBG 127 PMBG 112 - skipping again

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Amy&TrixieCat

Amy&TrixieCat

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Today is a mixed bag for recovery...she definitely did make some more baby steps. When I got up this morning, she came down the hall to greet me, and she came downstairs with me as well. She sat on my lap while I checked e-mail, and hunted for stray kibbles. Those were all some good "firsts" since last week But, as usual, her appy is just "eh" unless I encourage her by holding the plate. Her energy is a bit low, too...but I have been reminding myself that when someone is as sick as she was, it takes time to recover. Heck, it took me 2 weeks to get over a stupid little cold last winter.

Last night, she ate really well (with encouragement), and she came downstairs and hung out in the family room for us.

So we have seen some good old behaviors return in the last day.

We did give her ondansetron this morning. I was thinking of skipping it, but then thought tomorrow would be a better day for that experiment since I'm working today but am off tomorrow and can therefore observe (without hovering :roll: !) better. She has had enough of those injections, though - she was feeling feisty! I do have ondansetron tablets, so I will attempt to use those at this point should I think she needs some. She has been good about taking her BP meds and famotidine via pill pocket stuck to a kibble.

I'm thinking about restarting insulin tonight, since her last two reading were just out of normal and she is basically eating better. I'm very, very nervous about it. I plan on starting back at square one with 1.00U, as if she was just starting out for the first time. Who knows how things have changed because of this illness and I don't want to take any chances.

I'm also going to touch base with the vet tomorrow. I want to ask her opinion about whether we should consider using a little cypro to encourage Trix to eat a little more on her own, without me holding the plate. Vetty is off today.

I'm still pretty exhausted and stressed and depressed....but am trying very hard to look at the progress and not fear the pace.

Time to attempt a workout....have a great day LL!

Amy
 
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Morning. ~O)
I think I'd continue the ondansetron until she's really back to normal. It's not like it's a heavy drug to use lightly.
It does take time to recover, especially eating can be frustrating.

Hugs!
 
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Great to hear that Trixie is getting better and better. It took T about a month both times to get over ptitis. It is a very slowwwwww process. Sounds like she is right on track though. I would keep up with the ondansetron for a little while longer. That really helps a lot for the nausea. I hope you are getting some rest. (((Amy)))
 
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Thank you guys SOOOOOO much with the advice and info. We will keep up with the ondansetron. I'll try the pills tomorrow, since she was not at all happy with the injection today. But, if the pill won't go down, we have the back up of the injectible.

I was wondering how long it took others to recover. I joined the Yahoo group, but the format is virtually impossible to follow.
 
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Unfortunately, I'm not familiar at all with the drug, however, given the advice from the others, it sounds like that they certainly have more knowledge of it than I do and have suggested to keep up with it. I'm sending tons of healing vines, positive thoughts, and wishing for Miss Trixie to make a full and speedy recovery. :YMHUG:
 
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Good morning, Amy,

It sounds like Trixie is making a good recovery. Every little step forward is to be enjoyed. Try not to worry. She'll get back to complete normal in her own time. Good luck with the new 1 unit dose. That's a good idea to start lower than her previous dose. You might even try starting at a lower dose, just to be on th e safe side, maybe .5? See what the experts say.

Hugs and scritches and have a good day,

Ella & Rusty
 
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Thanks again...I love this place.

I have to agree, Ella.... .5U sounds good to me, too. I am SO nervous about restarting her, mainly because her appy is off, and because I'm worried if she drops and needs gravy food that it may be too rich for her now. It would probably a bit easier to think about starting if her numbers where higher.

I could also just keep tabs on things. I definitely won't shoot anything if her PMBG is back to green.
 
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Morning Amy ~O) ~O) ~O)

I think Trixie is making a great recovery. it took Mannie clsoe to a month to recover from his p'titis too. The progress was slow, but everyday something was better. I too started back with the insulin at a substantially reduced dose. We slowly took it back up until I could really see what was what with him, and what his needs truly were. I'm with Ella - maybe start at a .5? I did with Mannie, just felt it was safer for him, especially with, for him, eating being an issue at that time. I'd keep up with the ondansetron too, maybe see about some cypro to encourage her to eat.

Wishing you some rest, and great day ahead for Trixie. Have a great day Amy - I hope all goes well.
 
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Hi Amy, I'm glad Trixie continues taking baby steps to feeling better. You've gotten a lot of good advice from Beans experienced with the med and p'titis.
Good luck on the insulin. Continuing to send healing vines and prayers for Trixie and calming vines for you.
 
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Amy,
I'm glad Trixie is making a recovery. :smile:
Those baby steps are nice steps, that she's more social. That's wonderful.
I think that appetite is the first thing to go with pancreatitis, and the last thing to come back.
But it sounds like she's heading to the right direction!
Good luck with the insulin.
Hugs to you. :YMHUG:
 
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Hi there :cool:

Before you grab that syringe and the Lantus. . .

A few mid cycle tests may help you in your decisions as to:
a)restart insulin at this time or not and
b)if so, what dose?

Lets say you get a PMBG similar to today's AMBG - feed her as usual and grab a test about 3 hours after the meal.
This way you can get an idea if her pancreas is working.

Although the last couple BGs have not been ideal, they are pretty darned close to normal, even though she is not feeling great.
 
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Excellent advice, Sandy...that is exactly what I'll do. I'm nervous about shooting...nervous about not shooting...I'm just a big ole nervous wreck :roll: ! You guys should be glad you're not my DH ohmygod_smile :lol: !
 
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It's good to hear her social behaviors are getting back on track...good indication that she's feeling better. Champ just completed his six weeks of antibiotics for his mystery infection. He had completely stopped wanting to eat, too (which made me think he had p'titis but he didn't) so I actually had to hand feed him. He would eat if I held the food up to him with my fingers, but wouldn't even eat when I held his bowl for him. When his behaviors returned to normal (lying on his back with his feet in the air, wanting to sit in the window) I started putting his food in his bowl and walking away, seeing if he would eat by himself. It took a couple days for him to "remember" how to eat out of his bowl again and I did need to scoop up the last bits in his bowl and feed them to him for a couple days, but then, finally, he was back to normal, licking his bowl clean. Maybe Trix just needs to "remember" how to eat on her own again, too. Unfortunately, because you have so many kitties, it may not be feasible to put her food down and walk away to see what happens. It never ceases to amaze me how a poor appetite in our cat can stress us out so much!!! Good luck with everything. You really are a superior bean!!
 
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{{{Amy}}}

Sending appy vines for Trixie and hugs for you. :YMHUG: :YMHUG:

Sandy just made me feel smart, because she said just what I was thinking as I read your condo. I'd want to know what her BG was doing during the day, since we base dosing on nadirs and not on pre-shot.

I think you need to take some more deep breaths and try hard not to micro manage this. Trixie is still moving forward, and even if she goes back on insulin, it isn't really a step backwards, as she never went officially OTJ. You're doing a wonderful job, but remember she didn't get sick overnight and she isn't going to get well overnight, either.

Do you ever do yoga? Now would be a good time to start! You can't take care of Trixie if you make yourself ill with worry and stress. We're all here for you!
 
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I just went home to check on her....she is definitely a bit more "eh" today, so I doubt I'll be shooting insulin tonight. I need to feel more confident. I'm not really concerned about a failed OTJ (I haven't really considered this an OTJ trial since the circumstances aren't "normal") as I am about shooting and not being able to steer numbers if necessary. However, I will get some mid-cycle tests to see what's what. We'll definitely be doing anti-nausea tonight, too. Once that settles in, I may consider some cypro, too.....

@Patty - I'm so glad Champ is feeling better! His odd eating habits are very much like what I'm going through with Trix right now, too....although, fortunately she will eat off a plate. But, she is not thrilled about eating out of a bowl. I have to hold the plate to encourage her.

@Tricia - I've tried yoga....I'm too antsy and don't have the patience for it! I do like strength training and try to get a good 5 days in a week, although my muscles have been way too fatiqued from all the stress this past week. I'm just starting to get back into it. My beading is my meditation, but again, when I'm so stressed, I just can't focus on it :cry: ....This will pass, though....
 
Been trying to post this for so long it seems like old news now! This was to accompany her PMBG report:
Since she's hovering in the normal range, albeit barely, I decided to take advantage of it and reduce one layer of stress by not shooting....not having to worry about a drop at this point is a weight off my shoulders.

I am mad at myself, though, for possibly screwing up pill pockets. She loved them till she got sick, but I finally did get her in a routine with her BP meds ... smush a PP onto a kibble and she would eat it...phew. Tonight, I decided to try an ondansetron tablet instead of injection. Stupid idea. She has been prescribed 1/2 tablet, which I then cut in half...so two 1/4 tablets for her dose. She got one down, but the other...she kind of bit into it and that was all she wrote. Ugh. Getting her BP meds into her after that was not super easy, but I did it. I'm going back to liquid famotidine for a dose or two, even though she hates it...but I want to be sure it goes down AND I don't want to risk screwing up PPs again. Ugh, ugh, ugh.....

She does look much brighter this evening than she did this afternoon. Maybe she was just sleepy and I was being a paranoid overstressed worrywort MamaBean. I dunno.....I need to give her some breathing room tonight because is a bit annoyed at me now. I just wish she would eat more on her own, without me "encouraging" her....I don't mind doing it, but I want to be sure she eats enough. Again...ugh, ugh, ugh.....
 
Your worried frustration is like a real, living thing, smacking me in the face when I read your post!! I feel for ya, girl, I really do. Just know there's a bunch of us there with you in spirit. I'm thinking of you and keeping you and Ms. Trix in my prayers!!
 
Good call on the skip tonight. I wonder what a before bed test would show you.

Sorry about the meds - they figure things out so quickly.
 
Amy

I've had a hard time getting on lately but just want to send some healing vines. I hope she starts to eat on her own and eat her meds, too.

I know your stress level is out the roof so whatever brings you calm, I hope you take time to do.
 
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