4/9 Kitty AMPS 81, +6.5 95, PMPS 84

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Last night I left out FF chicken instead of his usual FF Beef, and voila, AMPS 20 points lower. He ate about the same amount overnight, too. So the beef could be the culprit.

Following Jill's excellent suggestion last night, we're trying to blend in the Wellness a small forkful at a time -- a true transition to a new food. He wasn't excited about it this morning, but we'll try, try again. :mrgreen:
 
Re: 4/9 Kitty AMPS 81 - no beef, chicken!

just a question, if he is eating the FF chicken without any problem why are you trying to get him changed over to wellness? Just better quality?
 
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PeterDevonMocha said:
just a question, if he is eating the FF chicken without any problem why are you trying to get him changed over to wellness? Just better quality?
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Either it's complicated, or I'm not thinking straight -- take a guess which! :lol:

1. He doesn't really like either the FF Tender Beef OR the FF Chicken Feast anymore. I believe FF started changing the consistency of the food BEFORE they changed the label. We have to sprinkle chicken dust on it to get him to eat.

2. The FF Beef seems to raise his numbers. At least the FF chicken doesn't raise his numbers.

3. So I'm trying to transition to Wellness -- which IS better quality -- while using the FF Chicken as the base. I'd rather use the Wellness than Evo because Evo comes only in the large cans, and it will get stale. Also, Wellness is stocked by the near-by petfood store.

Does that make any sense?? :lol:
 
Re: 4/9 Kitty AMPS 81 - no beef, chicken!

I would see if Kitty will eat the FF chicken without the Wellness. If he's back to the FF you're good.

FWIW, my guys do not like either EVO or Wellness. I think it's a texture thing. They have no problem with either the FF chicken or turkey.

You said the idea of contamination with the raw made you nervous. I buy boneless, skinless chicken thighs and breast along with some liver. I grind it myself and use a pre-mix that contains all of the necessary nutrients. I then make patties and freeze them. There is minimal chance of contamination since the surface area isn't as small as if I was buying already ground meat and I don't leave it in the refrigerator for days at a time.
 
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Sienne and Gabby said:
FWIW, my guys do not like either EVO or Wellness. I think it's a texture thing. They have no problem with either the FF chicken or turkey.
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I have to say, today's experiment with Wellness isn't going great. He has turned away from two plates with just a sliver of Wellness. Two plates is probably not a fair trial. No pukus, but then, no eatus either! :roll:

I did think that maybe I could mix the new label FF Chicken with the old label FF Chicken, and wean him onto the new label. On the other hand, Wellness and Evo are better quality foods. Maybe this is my chance to upgrade his diet.

As for raw: Sienne, gotta be honest. When DH doesn't cook, I eat exclusively prepared stuff myself. We're talking yogurt, crackers, peanut butter -- if I have to microwave, I think I'm cooking. And I hate to cook. :evil: The contamination thing is probably just the excuse. :oops:
 
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I hate to cook too! The idea of making raw food for mocha creeps me out. I can't barely stand to touch raw meat as it is. Whenever chicken is made in this house for dinner, in one hand I have my can of Clorox wipes and in my other hand I have my spray sanitizer! :lol: I couldn't imagine making raw food and then giving it to the cat's to eat.
 
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I have tried the SophistaCat Supreme for my two instead of the FF and they are liking it....it's the Petsmart brand in the small can, just the same size as FF. They liked FF for a long time but then seemed to turn away from it a lot. Wellness is higher in fat and Raja had higher cholesterol readings at her last blood test (I had been feeding primarily Wellness in the week before the test.) Have no idea if that made a difference cause Shadow's was ok.
I also buy raw chicken and mix the Felines Future powder into it and mix some of that with the canned food. I sprinkle the freeze=dried chicken on the food a lot too....
 
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UCK I couldnt do the raw either, even though i am a cook..
I once had Salmonella & was sick for months--I mean months, so that's out of the question.Yes cats can get it I think I remember seeing...
I have been feeding mine the FF, even the new label, and her numbers are the same--I did think that it was the FF, but they are interested again--I give them different flavors am & pm--Am it's ff beef(1/2 can) and 1/2 can of turkey & gib...PM It's beef & chopped grill, so they are not getting the same thing all the time, & they like that
Gave them 1/2 can ff gourmet chicken tonite! Will see if the picky ones, will accept it :lol: :lol: :lol:
also some cats like grated parmesean cheese sprinkled on their food...
 
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There was a time when Kitty would eat his Tender Beef eagerly. Since they changed the consistency -- less liquid, more pate -- I have to sprinkle EVERYTHING with chicken dust.

Jill has mentioned that many cats can handle higher fat content well -- but I guess a specific cholesterol issue like Raja's would mean she's not one of them. (I handle fat very well, myself. As long as it's chocolate, cake or ice cream -- or chocolate ice cream cake! :lol: )
 
What's up with the higher mid-day BG, I wonder??

Roni, that's some salmonella story!! Sick for months, wow.

As far as I can tell, Kitty prefers to eat the same thing all the time. If I change it up, he gets suspicious. Go figure. And he won't even touch the Turkey & Giblets. I'll look forward to reading whether your kitties like the chicken feast.
 
Re: 4/9 Kitty AMPS 81, +6.5 95

just keep trying until you find something that works for kitty...
raw isn't for everyone.

btw, high cholesterol levels in cats is not a big deal like it is for humans. they don't live long enough for it to become a problem.
at least that's what i've read on this board. my vet concurs...
 
Re: 4/9 Kitty AMPS 81, +6.5 95

Jill, I definitely was trying to rush it. I suspected the beef was raising his numbers, and he also just didn't like the new FF.

I'll try mixing in patience along with the Wellness! :mrgreen: We'll see if that helps.

meanwhile, thinking dosecrease tomorrow...
 
Re: 4/9 Kitty AMPS 81, +6.5 95

looks like it's a GO for a reduction tomorrow!
are you planning in taking him down to 0.1u bid or are you going to try to measure something in-between?
fwiw, i think he's ready for a reduction to 0.1 unit...
 
Jill & Alex said:
looks like it's a GO for a reduction tomorrow!
are you planning in taking him down to 0.1u bid or are you going to try to measure something in-between?
fwiw, i think he's ready for a reduction to 0.1 unit...
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:mrgreen: :mrgreen: So glad you think so!! :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

Judging by this picture, we may be at .3 now, though. :? http://romlin.com/jock/SyringeFineGradations/

I expected we would go to this:
http://romlin.com/jock/SyringeFineGradations/
But I guess we'd better take a medium drop out and see.

I'm worried about pushing out these tiny drops. When I depress the plunger before I pull out the syringe, i tend to 'rock' the needle in him on the way out -- not pulling it out straight.

And DH has always drawn back on the plunger before pushing the insulin in. Maybe it's time to stop that. :?:
 
i don't envy you trying to measure something in-between what you're shooting now and 0.1 unit.
kitty has pretty much been in normal numbers since november. you've given his pancreas plenty of time to heal. :-D
whatever you decide will be fine. kitty's already made his plane reservation to get to the falls. from what alex tells me, he's working on his wardrobe.
guess he wants to impress the chicks...
 
Jill & Alex said:
i don't envy you trying to measure something in-between what you're shooting now and 0.1 unit.
kitty has pretty much been in normal numbers since november. you've given his pancreas plenty of time to heal. :-D
whatever you decide will be fine. kitty's already made his plane reservation to get to the falls. from what alex tells me, he's working on his wardrobe.
guess he wants to impress the chicks...
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You should see the smile on my face right now!! Makes me VERY happy to hear you say this. :mrgreen:

Okay, then, we'll take it to the next dose, do our best to deliver a drop for a week and then..............
 
KATHYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY)))))))))))))) CONGRATULATIONS!! & SO EXCITING on the Dosecrease.
Kitty is doing GREAT! Beautiful, beautiful numbers today.

BTW, i think we were off the whole time on the microdosing thing. My .25 was probably a .10 and then we halved that, and then shaved that for another week+. WHO KNOWS what he was getting, if anything, ...fumes. Then hung onto that for dear life. I have a feeling they are going to have to drag the syringe from you as they nearly did me. Kitty is practically there already. You better start getting used to the idea.


So, so exciting for you!

betty
 
Re: 4/9 Kitty AMPS 81, +6.5 95

Roni and Moonie said:
UCK I couldnt do the raw either, even though i am a cook..
I once had Salmonella & was sick for months--I mean months, so that's out of the question.Yes cats can get it I think I remember seeing...
I have been feeding mine the FF, even the new label, and her numbers are the same--I did think that it was the FF, but they are interested again--I give them different flavors am & pm--Am it's ff beef(1/2 can) and 1/2 can of turkey & gib...PM It's beef & chopped grill, so they are not getting the same thing all the time, & they like that
Gave them 1/2 can ff gourmet chicken tonite! Will see if the picky ones, will accept it :lol: :lol: :lol:
also some cats like grated parmesean cheese sprinkled on their food...
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Yes cats can get salmonella because when I was using the primal chicken and salmon nuggest for Voodoo the one boy we were showing my vets would shudder and give me a salmonella lecture not sure if its common or not I have been a tech for almost 16 yrs and have never heard of a case in our practice and we are a busy open 24/7 365 days a yr clinic. You know chicken FF is one flavor I have not tried for Do Lou yet need to try that and he also hates the wellness canned and I have tried it more then once here.
 
Congratulations on the dose crease. The easiest way is got to the dose you have been shooting and squeeze out 1 drop. I'm getting to be an expert on the 1 drop changes.For me the .1u was easier to see than the .25u.
 
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