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i couldn't find where to read the calories on the FF?
On the FF cans the calorie content is at the very end of the "Manufactured by Nestle Purina" paragraph on the can. This is the paragraph directly under the "guaranteed analysis". I'm looking at a can of FF Turkey & Giblets Classic and it says:
94 kcal per can (1110 kcal per kilogram). This is pretty good for a 3 oz. can, but over 100 kcal would be better.
 
Anesthesia and pain meds should not mess with his diabetes. The morning of the surgery vets typically suggest a 1/2 dose of insulin, but other than that, should be no change with his insulin routine. Neko was on pain meds long term due to her arthritis. Addressing pain improved her BG. The cost of a dental typically varies depending on how many extractions they have to do.

No, Royal Canin Recovery is low carb. Another alternative is A/D. It's a bit higher carb, but given Silver's current condition, that's OK. Higher (not high) carb food will allow you to get enough insulin in him and keep him safe. The higher proportion of fat in the food, the higher the calories. That doesn't impact the carbs. The nice things about Recovery and A/D, is that some cats really like them. The other thing is that if you have to syringe feed, they are very easy to do so with.

Sandy has in the past said her BK went from trace to large ketones in 24 hours. Glad you've ordered a ketone meter.

Regarding fluids - I often gave fluids in the bathroom. The bag was placed on a hanger which hung on the shower rod or a hook on the door. The height makes the fluids go in faster and is one less thing for me to hang onto. Ask your vet if they have 20 or 21 gauge needles, easier to stick the cat with than the 18 they usually send you home with. I found fluids costs varied quite a bit. Much cheaper at the regular vet than the ER vet.
Thanks. That's a good idea re the shower. I was wondering where I could hang the bag. I already have a bag of fluids they sent home with me in Friday. Will see what they tell me when I pick him up if I'm to give it to him.
 
On the FF cans the calorie content is at the very end of the "Manufactured by Nestle Purina" paragraph on the can. This is the paragraph directly under the "guaranteed analysis". I'm looking at a can of FF Turkey & Giblets Classic and it says:
94 kcal per can (1110 kcal per kilogram). This is pretty good for a 3 oz. can, but over 100 kcal would be better.
Awesome. Thanks. I'll take another look.
 
@Tanya and Ducia i couldn't find where to read the calories on the FF?[/QUOTEhere it is:
here it is:
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The total calories per this particular can is the last sentence on the back of the can. I could not read it with readers on - had to use the magnifying glass in addition. (it reads 96 Kcal/ can). Same is done for each can.
(I have no idea why they making the font so small, really, it strains one's eyes)
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You can also check the total caloric value in Dr. Pierson's chart - attached below.

Although I had noticed some discrepancy in the total amount of calories between the chart and what is actually listed on the can - and I opted to take Dr. Pierson's chart as a guideline - not the can info..but it is up to you.
 

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I just looked - our cans are nothing like that - in Canada they do not list the calorie content at all. Went through it line by line. Bummer but there it is.

I am at such a loose end waiting for Silver to come home. Can't seem to focus on anything else. Three and a half more hours before I expect the next call from the vet. I really want him home tonight.
 
I just looked - our cans are nothing like that - in Canada they do not list the calorie content at all. Went through it line by line. Bummer but there it is.

I am at such a loose end waiting for Silver to come home. Can't seem to focus on anything else. Three and a half more hours before I expect the next call from the vet. I really want him home tonight.
I'd rely on Dr. Lisa's list. They have to put everything in French and English on Canadian labels so stuff gets left off. :confused:
 
I just looked - our cans are nothing like that - in Canada they do not list the calorie content at all. Went through it line by line. Bummer but there it is.
Darn..I forgot you were Canada....
Perhaps @Wendy&Neko , @Kris & Teasel or @Tracey&Jones can help with it?...
I am at such a loose end waiting for Silver to come home. Can't seem to focus on anything else. Three and a half more hours before I expect the next call from the vet. I really want him home tonight.

Can pursuade you to go to sleep, a short nap at least now?
Think that Silver is in the best place to be at the moment and try to relax. It is important that you got some rest.
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If yo ucheck Ducia SS for March 2017 you'll see that I wasn't sleeping at all - too scared.
Now, a year later, I am telling you with all of the confidence - that exhaustion helped nothing. I could barely understand what was said to me - really.
 
I copied this from somewhere else on FDMB (I think) and it might be useful, Juliet:
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Canned LC Foods - Canada

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In Canada, we actually have a good selection of grocery store brands that are low carb. Compliments (Sobeys/IGA) and President's Choice (SuperStore, LobLaws) foods are good choices. One big bonus is that the PC and Compliments cost less than FF, and several of them have better ingredients! There are several PC flavours that are low carb- like duck - which FF doesn't even carry. The WalMart and PC ones are in Janet's international charts, and the FF ones are in her old charts. Regardless, stick with pate ones - no gravies. The gravy ones are full of corn starch. If it's used, wheat gluten is listed on the labels in the ingredients, so it's easy to avoid those if you like.


The Compliments ones (Sobeys) also have really good pates. The ones you buy in a box (turkey and giblets, beef dinner, and mixed grill) are all pates and good to use.


Friskies also has some really good low carb pates, and it says "Pate" clearly on the label. My guys like turkey & giblets, chef's dinner, chicken dinner and - as a once a week treat only!- the salmon dinner or whitefish and tuna.


If they are not in Janet's list, the next best thing is to label read- avoid obvious grains (wheat, rice, corn) and other carbs (potatoes, peas), fruit & vegetables, and things called "food starch".. which I assume is cornstarch, but the "starch" part says "stay away" to a sugarcat.
 
Sorry, never fed Fancy Feast, and never will.
How come? Its all my cats will eat and I am thankful it is low carb and suitable for diabetics. I thought it was recommended on here along with Friskies for being low carb and okay?
 
I copied this from somewhere else on FDMB (I think) and it might be useful, Juliet:
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Canned LC Foods - Canada

............................................................................................................................................


In Canada, we actually have a good selection of grocery store brands that are low carb. Compliments (Sobeys/IGA) and President's Choice (SuperStore, LobLaws) foods are good choices. One big bonus is that the PC and Compliments cost less than FF, and several of them have better ingredients! There are several PC flavours that are low carb- like duck - which FF doesn't even carry. The WalMart and PC ones are in Janet's international charts, and the FF ones are in her old charts. Regardless, stick with pate ones - no gravies. The gravy ones are full of corn starch. If it's used, wheat gluten is listed on the labels in the ingredients, so it's easy to avoid those if you like.


The Compliments ones (Sobeys) also have really good pates. The ones you buy in a box (turkey and giblets, beef dinner, and mixed grill) are all pates and good to use.


Friskies also has some really good low carb pates, and it says "Pate" clearly on the label. My guys like turkey & giblets, chef's dinner, chicken dinner and - as a once a week treat only!- the salmon dinner or whitefish and tuna.


If they are not in Janet's list, the next best thing is to label read- avoid obvious grains (wheat, rice, corn) and other carbs (potatoes, peas), fruit & vegetables, and things called "food starch".. which I assume is cornstarch, but the "starch" part says "stay away" to a sugarcat.
Thanks for this. Actually I have bought the gravy kind as well - I need to persuade Silver to eat and if it means his numbers run a little high then so be it. I have tried the compliments brands when $ was really tight and both Silver and Sasha turned their noses up at it. I have tried many varieties over the past 12 years and FF seafood varieties are the only kinds my fussy pair will eat. Right now I need Silver to eat so that is my main focus. I will give him more than his usual food and go from there.
 
How come? Its all my cats will eat and I am thankful it is low carb and suitable for diabetics. I thought it was recommended on here along with Friskies for being low carb and okay?
I like spending money on cat food. :p Seriously though, FF is too high in phosphorus for cats with kidney conditions. At the time I had Neko, my second cat had cystitis, which also meant low phosphorus for him too. On the west coast, I can get over half the foods listed in Dr. Lisa's list so there are several alternative low carb/low phosphorus options. Most of the time I fed raw on the civvie's vet's recommendation. Home made raw is even cheaper.
 
I'm so glad Silver is making progress.

If Wellness is available in Canada, it is higher in calories than FF or most of the other low carb foods. The chicken or turkey flavors are 4 - 5% carb. As others noted, carbs and calories can be unrelated. It depends on whether they are adding things like potatoes, rice, etc. which would affect the % of carbs vs fat, which will not affect the carbs.

Fluids: When Gabby came home from the hospital after DKA (plus pancreatitis and hepatic lipidosis),I didn't have to continue with fluids. A lot will depend on what the vet thinks is necessary. Adding water to Silver's food will help. Even with Gizmo not being diabetic, I add warm water to his food. It's good for the kidneys!

Unfortunately, some cats become prone to developing ketones after an episode of DKA. Because their electrolyte (e.g., potassium, phosphorus) levels have been out of whack and the underlying infection may not have fully cleared, there is a possibility that ketones can reoccur. When Gabby came home after several days at the kitty ICU, she was prescribed an antibiotic, anti-nausea medication, an appetite stimulant, pain medication and I'm not sure if there was anything else. (It was some time ago!!) I do remember making a guide for myself as to what meds were given when so I didn't miss any doses. She did not have any problems after that one episode of DKA. I also watched her like a hawk.

I am concerned that this is going to be tough on you. Like you, I work full time. I was willing to sacrifice sleep and test into the evening because I was completely frantic about Gabby but I didn't have the health complications you're dealing with. Once you're back on your routine with Silver and your sure he's doing better, keep a close eye on him. Monitor his BG and ketones regularly. (You should check ketones at least once a day.) Any indication that Silver is "off" means a trip to or a talk with the vet. Any time someone mentions a post-DKA cat is acting lethargic, my antenna go up. As Stacy said, you are the best one to know how Silver is doing.

 
I'm so glad Silver is making progress.

If Wellness is available in Canada, it is higher in calories than FF or most of the other low carb foods. The chicken or turkey flavors are 4 - 5% carb. As others noted, carbs and calories can be unrelated. It depends on whether they are adding things like potatoes, rice, etc. which would affect the % of carbs vs fat, which will not affect the carbs.

Fluids: When Gabby came home from the hospital after DKA (plus pancreatitis and hepatic lipidosis),I didn't have to continue with fluids. A lot will depend on what the vet thinks is necessary. Adding water to Silver's food will help. Even with Gizmo not being diabetic, I add warm water to his food. It's good for the kidneys!

Unfortunately, some cats become prone to developing ketones after an episode of DKA. Because their electrolyte (e.g., potassium, phosphorus) levels have been out of whack and the underlying infection may not have fully cleared, there is a possibility that ketones can reoccur. When Gabby came home after several days at the kitty ICU, she was prescribed an antibiotic, anti-nausea medication, an appetite stimulant, pain medication and I'm not sure if there was anything else. (It was some time ago!!) I do remember making a guide for myself as to what meds were given when so I didn't miss any doses. She did not have any problems after that one episode of DKA. I also watched her like a hawk.

I am concerned that this is going to be tough on you. Like you, I work full time. I was willing to sacrifice sleep and test into the evening because I was completely frantic about Gabby but I didn't have the health complications you're dealing with. Once you're back on your routine with Silver and your sure he's doing better, keep a close eye on him. Monitor his BG and ketones regularly. (You should check ketones at least once a day.) Any indication that Silver is "off" means a trip to or a talk with the vet. Any time someone mentions a post-DKA cat is acting lethargic, my antenna go up. As Stacy said, you are the best one to know how Silver is doing.
Thank you. I will keep an eye on him. Doubt I will be sleeping much any time soon. Wish I had some vacation days available. The ketone meter and strips should be arriving soon. They'll ship tomorrow and I should have it Tuesday.
 
More a time thing for me. I don't even cook for myself let alone the kitties.
I see... time IS money...

Here is another thought that occurred to me: make a list of what you want( need) from the ER (paying their astronomical DKA bill gives you an opportunity to ask for freebies: (ask other members here what would they ask for for their kitties). Most meds/ supplements are OK if kept in the Fridge for several months.
I'd start writing the list like that:

LRS+lines and needles
Anti nausea med
Appy stimulant
Pain management - pills
Probiotic - to offset harsh AB action on all of the bacteria.
FEEDING SYRINGES - TRY TO GET AT LEAST ONE FOR FREE.









Paying several thousands at the ER puts you into a rare opportunity to Demand what you want - other times you vet might want to brush you off (like mine does). Seize the opportunity!

Plus - all of the medications they think you'll need - antibiotics, liver supplements. Potassium replacement , etc.

If they offer you a recovery canned food - take it all.
Even if it is higher in carbs you might need it for a while and then donate unused rest to a local shelter (as I did w/ Ducia).

ETA: almost forgot the MOST Important : have the entire ER file for Silver copied and take it home!
 
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Fluids and admin kits are cheaper online than from the vet - half the price. Prescription not needed in Canada. If fluids are deemed necessary, just get enough to get you through until you can place an order.
https://www.petsdrugmart.ca/Product/Lactated-Ringer-Injection-6602705/3287
https://www.petsdrugmart.ca/Product/Saline-Solution-0-9-Sodium-Chloride-6602715/3501
https://www.petsdrugmart.ca/Product/Terumo-Needles-3230700/3525 (though terumo ultra thin are preferred)
https://www.petsdrugmart.ca/Product/IV-20DR-Set-J400-Jorvet-1870358/3278

My vet once charged me $40 CDN for a kit which consisted of 1 bag fluids, 1 admin line, 10 needles all thrown together in a grocery bag and called a "kit."
 
I see... time IS money...

Here is another thought that occurred to me: make a list of what you want( need) from the ER (paying their astronomical DKA bill gives you an opportunity to ask for freebies: (ask other members here what would they ask for for their kitties). Most meds/ supplements are OK if kept in the Fridge for several months.
I'd start writing the list like that:

LRS+lines and needles
Anti nausea med
Appy stimulant
Pain management - pills
Probiotic - to offset harsh AB action on all of the bacteria.
FEEDING SYRINGES - TRY TO GET AT LEAST ONE FOR FREE.









Paying several thousands at the ER puts you into a rare opportunity to Demand what you want - other times you vet might want to brush you off (like mine does). Seize the opportunity!

Plus - all of the medications they think you'll need - antibiotics, liver supplements. Potassium replacement , etc.

If they offer you a recovery canned food - take it all.
Even if it is higher in carbs you might need it for a while and then donate unused rest to a local shelter (as I did w/ Ducia).

ETA: almost forgot the MOST Important : have the entire ER file for Silver copied and take it home!
Sorry guys. This is the weekend emergency hosptial. They have none of this stuff there. As I am NOT paying the bill I do not feel comfortable asking for freebies anyway. And quite honestly I don't know if I will be needing any of it. I won't force feed him. I tried and he won't have it. The ER file will be sent to my regular vet. It's safe there.

This is my plan moving forward:

Increase his food as much as he will eat
Add water to the food to keep him getting dehydrated
Check for ketones daily
Check BG more often when I can (with work restrictions)
Keep him on his regular FF food (that is all he will eat anyways)
Give the bag of fluids I have here at home (complete with line and needles) IF and only if the vet says he needs it.
If he acts off or is hesitant to eat I will take him right to the vet as I did on Friday night. That is the safest place for him. I trust these vets more than I do my regular vet. However they only open when the regular vets close and are not for regular appointments. Emergencies only.

I am not worried about his eating right now as the vet said he started eating almost immediately. They did not need to give him either pain meds or appetite stimulant. They will have him on antibiotics so I am presuming they will send me home with the rest of the prescription. I will ask a lot of questions before I take him home. I am quite good at doing that.
 
Fluids and admin kits are cheaper online than from the vet - half the price. Prescription not needed in Canada. If fluids are deemed necessary, just get enough to get you through until you can place an order.
https://www.petsdrugmart.ca/Product/Lactated-Ringer-Injection-6602705/3287
https://www.petsdrugmart.ca/Product/Saline-Solution-0-9-Sodium-Chloride-6602715/3501
https://www.petsdrugmart.ca/Product/Terumo-Needles-3230700/3525 (though terumo ultra thin are preferred)
https://www.petsdrugmart.ca/Product/IV-20DR-Set-J400-Jorvet-1870358/3278

My vet once charged me $40 CDN for a kit which consisted of 1 bag fluids, 1 admin line, 10 needles all thrown together in a grocery bag and called a "kit."
I won't do anything like this without vet direction.
 
Fluids and admin kits are cheaper online than from the vet - half the price. Prescription not needed in Canada. If fluids are deemed necessary, just get enough to get you through until you can place an order.
https://www.petsdrugmart.ca/Product/Lactated-Ringer-Injection-6602705/3287
https://www.petsdrugmart.ca/Product/Saline-Solution-0-9-Sodium-Chloride-6602715/3501
https://www.petsdrugmart.ca/Product/Terumo-Needles-3230700/3525 (though terumo ultra thin are preferred)
https://www.petsdrugmart.ca/Product/IV-20DR-Set-J400-Jorvet-1870358/3278

My vet once charged me $40 CDN for a kit which consisted of 1 bag fluids, 1 admin line, 10 needles all thrown together in a grocery bag and called a "kit."
I paid 42.00 last Wednesday for the same thing for Bella’s sister, Abby, I just about fell over
 
I’m so glad silver is feeling better, hope for a soon return home
Lots of :bighug::bighug::bighug::bighug::bighug::bighug::bighug::bighug::bighug::bighug::bighug:
Get some rest tonight and sleep:)
Well it's hard to know what's happening re tomorrow. Am stressing out a little. I'm supposed to be at my desk for 8am. On the 6:39am train. If Silver comes home tonight that works bit if he comes home tomorrow morning I don't want to pick him up and leave for work right away but my work will be really upset if I don't come in. Also if I have to transfer him from one hospital to the regular vet hospital then I will be very late. I'm not very good with uncertainty and not knowing what's happening. Not conducive for good sleep.
 
I won't use those. I will take him back to the vet. Will not force him to eat if he is unwell.
If he doesn't get food (calories) Silver runs the risk of developing DKA again. You may have to force feed until he is eating enough on his own. Most times it isn't something that lasts that long but cats are notorious for not eating and having diffiulty starting again. This can also lead to hepatic lipidosis which can be deadly also.
 
If he doesn't get food (calories) Silver runs the risk of developing DKA again. You may have to force feed until he is eating enough on his own. Most times it isn't something that lasts that long but cats are notorious for not eating and having diffiulty starting again. This can also lead to hepatic lipidosis which can be deadly also.
Like I said. If he shows ANY signs of not eating I will take him to the vet.
 
Heading to pick him up. He's had a very good day. Not lethargic. Fully hydrated and eating well. They are happy for me to take him home.
I've to give the bag of fluids I have here to keep him hydrated in the next few days. 150ml a day x 4 days.

They said they will call me when they get the results of the urine culture. They tested for ketones 10hrs ago and still a trace but happy for me to continue at home.

Relieved and a little scared. Hope I can keep him safe and well.
 
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Well it's hard to know what's happening re tomorrow. Am stressing out a little. I'm supposed to be at my desk for 8am. On the 6:39am train. If Silver comes home tonight that works bit if he comes home tomorrow morning I don't want to pick him up and leave for work right away but my work will be really upset if I don't come in. Also if I have to transfer him from one hospital to the regular vet hospital then I will be very late. I'm not very good with uncertainty and not knowing what's happening. Not conducive for good sleep.
Sending prayers that everything will work out. Like you ... I hate uncertainty and always like to have a plan in place. :bighug:

ETA - just saw you are bringing him home tonight. :)
 
Hooray!!!!

I totally understand the stress and concern, this is a scary situation. But: he's eating, he's hydrated, he's got that nasty UTI on the run, and he's coming home!!!!!!! Absolutely everything is pointing in the right direction, and he'll be so much less stressed at home, and be getting the very best TLC from both you and Sasha. You've got this!
 
I am glad to hear that Silver is doing better. It's hard when they get down. You are on a good path to help Silver recover, and stay recovered. In a month, this will just be a distant memory as Silver lays in your lap and helps you read or watch TV.
 
Relieved and a little scared. Hope I can keep him safe and well.

You can and you will. It’s going to be a process and no doubt stressful and exhausting, but you will manage for your boy. We can’t do any of the heavy lifting, but we are all here to support you.

So glad Silver is doing well enough to come home! :bighug::bighug::bighug::bighug:
 
I am glad to hear that Silver is doing better. It's hard when they get down. You are on a good path to help Silver recover, and stay recovered. In a month, this will just be a distant memory as Silver lays in your lap and helps you read or watch TV.
Funny that's one thing neither he nor his sister have ever done is lie in my lap. On my head, in my bed and just about everywhere else tho. Until tonight when his lonely sister crept into my lap. Surprise surprise. First time ever in 12 years.
 
You can and you will. It’s going to be a process and no doubt stressful and exhausting, but you will manage for your boy. We can’t do any of the heavy lifting, but we are all here to support you.

So glad Silver is doing well enough to come home! :bighug::bighug::bighug::bighug:
Thanks. Don't think I've slept since Thursday night. Will be a little frazzled at work tomorrow wanting to be home and doubt I'll be going to bed soon. I've to give him half his dose tonight says the vet. Is that ok? It's three hours late for his usual shot time. They have not given any Lantus. Just humulin.
 
Happy to hear Silver is coming home. I felt so weird when he was at the vet for a curve and gone for 10 hours. I know how thrilled you are to have him home!
 
Thanks. Don't think I've slept since Thursday night. Will be a little frazzled at work tomorrow wanting to be home and doubt I'll be going to bed soon. I've to give him half his dose tonight says the vet. Is that ok? It's three hours late for his usual shot time. They have not given any Lantus. Just humulin.

Did they start him on antibiotics for the UTI or are they waiting for the culture to come back before addressing that?

I haven’t dealt with ketones and DKA personally, so I’m not comfortable giving my thoughts on dose here. I wonder what his number is and if he is willing to eat, I think that will assist in deciding how much insulin to give. He may be more sensitive as well. Let’s get some thoughts @Sienne and Gabby (GA) @Sandy and Black Kitty @Wendy&Neko @Tanya and Ducia
 
I'm so excited for you that Silver is going home. Sounds like you have a clear plan which is good for the both of you.


and TBH I'm no cop at all for asking for freebies or for a 'best price' in a shop. I'm a wimp & so is husband. lol
 
Did they start him on antibiotics for the UTI or are they waiting for the culture to come back before addressing that?

I haven’t dealt with ketones and DKA personally, so I’m not comfortable giving my thoughts on dose here. I wonder what his number is and if he is willing to eat, I think that will assist in deciding how much insulin to give. He may be more sensitive as well. Let’s get some thoughts @Sienne and Gabby (GA) @Sandy and Black Kitty @Wendy&Neko @Tanya and Ducia
Not got antibiotics until culture comes back. Either tomorrow or Tuesday. He's not even sure it's an UTI now he said. So wants to wait.

Silver is now chomping down on a full can of FF. Was given three cans of Royal Canin Recovery and told to leave dry food down for tomorrow when I am out 12 hrs. Should I?

I gave him 2u just now and tested him on both freestyle and accucheck. Very pleased to see the numbers quite close.

203 on freestyle and 270 on accucheck. Both yellow but not horrible.
 
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I do think leaving food out is necessary. I know Sasha may eat it too, but you can always cut her calories back a smidge later if she gains weight, it will just be a mess for Silver if he doesn’t get enough calories right now in the meantime. Also, if he is eating more calories and higher carbs (dry food), you will have to increase his insulin accordingly to compensate. It’s going to be a process, but I there are many people here that can help you see it through.

I’ve seen clever food contraptions that they have to work at it to get bits of food out, like a game, but it also keeps them from inhaling the food as well as exercising them a bit and keeping them stimulated. Might be a good option for leaving food out, not tomorrow, but just in the future going forward. I don’t even think you’d need to buy something, it could be something you could get creative and DIY.
 
This is all they did and instructions at the bottom. I'll post here if I encounter a low number. Glad to see he encouraged home testing. I really like this vet. The other one I saw yesterday talked to the wall not me! Shame he's just the emergency vet. Would rather he was my regular vet. He said I'd done everything right and was pleased I'm going home testing and will be testing for keytones.

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I do think leaving food out is necessary. I know Sasha may eat it too, but you can always cut her calories back a smidge later if she gains weight, it will just be a mess for Silver if he doesn’t get enough calories right now in the meantime. Also, if he is eating more calories and higher carbs (dry food), you will have to increase his insulin accordingly to compensate. It’s going to be a process, but I there are many people here that can help you see it through.

I’ve seen clever food contraptions that they have to work at it to get bits of food out, like a game, but it also keeps them from inhaling the food as well as exercising them a bit and keeping them stimulated. Might be a good option for leaving food out, not tomorrow, but just in the future going forward. I don’t even think you’d need to buy something, it could be something you could get creative and DIY.
Ok I'll do that. The vet tech said rules go out the window in these situations but wasn't high numbers part of the cause of all this? Dry will push him right up no?
 
I have a vacation day booked for April 20th. I'm very tempted to call in and ask to switch it to tomorrow but I know tomorrow is supposed to be a busy work day. Hmmm
 
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