4/30 Ella pmps 509 +2=475 +5=468
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Libby and Lucy
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Re: 4/30 Ella +11=142 +11.5=113 am=95+1=65 +1.5=40+11=482
Let's see how tonight goes before deciding about the morning. I would say the answer is that most likely you will want to skip tomorrow. Usually once Ella starts to come down, she comes down pretty fast, and we want to see if she will do that again tonight. If you can get a couple of spot checks tonight, we might be able to have a plan before you go to bed. Then plan on posting your +11 in the morning. I'm really interested to see what Ella does with this dose tonight.
Wow, what a time you have had the past few days!tpr said:Thanks Jill
pmps 509 ...an all time record high
If she is in the pinks tomorrow shall I dose her again?
Let's see how tonight goes before deciding about the morning. I would say the answer is that most likely you will want to skip tomorrow. Usually once Ella starts to come down, she comes down pretty fast, and we want to see if she will do that again tonight. If you can get a couple of spot checks tonight, we might be able to have a plan before you go to bed. Then plan on posting your +11 in the morning. I'm really interested to see what Ella does with this dose tonight.
tpr
Member Since 2012
Re: 4/30 Ella pmps 509
Yes she scarfed it down unassisted! probably due to the fact that she's so high and didn't get her pm snack.
Why can't she do that all the time?! Geez Ella....help me out a little will ya!
I don't think they tried heating it up how she likes it even though I wrote it on her sheet!
Yes she scarfed it down unassisted! probably due to the fact that she's so high and didn't get her pm snack.
Why can't she do that all the time?! Geez Ella....help me out a little will ya!
I don't think they tried heating it up how she likes it even though I wrote it on her sheet!
carolynandlatte
Member Since 2009
Re: 4/30 Ella +11=142 +11.5=113 am=95+1=65 +1.5=40+11=482
Remembering that ECID, my cat would get a spike from dry about 3hrs after eating it. It would last a few hours beyond that (3-4). Her dry was EVO lowER carb, so its hard to say with a higher carb food and how sensitive one is to it. She could start clearing the dry food spike the same time insulin kicks in. Another good reason to monitor tonight. (which I know you planned on doing! :mrgreen: )
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Remembering that ECID, my cat would get a spike from dry about 3hrs after eating it. It would last a few hours beyond that (3-4). Her dry was EVO lowER carb, so its hard to say with a higher carb food and how sensitive one is to it. She could start clearing the dry food spike the same time insulin kicks in. Another good reason to monitor tonight. (which I know you planned on doing! :mrgreen: )
Jill & Alex (GA)
Member Since 2009
Re: 4/30 Ella pmps 509
breathe! :mrgreen:
it's ok. if she did get into the dry there's nothing we can do about it now. it's not the end of the world anyway.
if there's one thing we know for sure... ella will come down. so take a break. come back with a few spot checks tonight. let's see what her plans are.
i'll be back later to check in on you. there are lots of eyes on ella...
breathe! :mrgreen:
it's ok. if she did get into the dry there's nothing we can do about it now. it's not the end of the world anyway.
if there's one thing we know for sure... ella will come down. so take a break. come back with a few spot checks tonight. let's see what her plans are.
i'll be back later to check in on you. there are lots of eyes on ella...
Re: 4/30 Ella pmps 509
Tamara. :YMHUG: :YMHUG: :YMHUG:
There is probably not one of us who hasn't overcarbed our own cat at some time. Today was out of your control. No, they didn't do what you wanted but Ella was safe. As the others said, she'll come down.
Julie and I are on the west coast and can generally stay up much later than the others. So I'll also be checking in on you tonight for as long as you need if Ella makes a mad dash down.
Try to relax for this evening. Tomorrow will be better.
Tamara. :YMHUG: :YMHUG: :YMHUG:
There is probably not one of us who hasn't overcarbed our own cat at some time. Today was out of your control. No, they didn't do what you wanted but Ella was safe. As the others said, she'll come down.
Julie and I are on the west coast and can generally stay up much later than the others. So I'll also be checking in on you tonight for as long as you need if Ella makes a mad dash down.
Try to relax for this evening. Tomorrow will be better.
Re: 4/30 Ella pmps 509
Like Jill suggested, a couple of deep breaths. There's nothing you can do about the vet. They think they know better despite your having left instructions.
Like Jill suggested, a couple of deep breaths. There's nothing you can do about the vet. They think they know better despite your having left instructions.
tpr
Member Since 2012
Re: 4/30 Ella pmps 509
+2 -475...
Thanks everyone
I should look at the positives...she was safe and that's the most important thing
Why do you think they are not concerned with her going hypo at such low numbers? They said they have never even had a cat come to clinic during a hypo episode. They think I'm insane for testing so much!
+2 -475...
Thanks everyone
I should look at the positives...she was safe and that's the most important thing
Why do you think they are not concerned with her going hypo at such low numbers? They said they have never even had a cat come to clinic during a hypo episode. They think I'm insane for testing so much!
Re: 4/30 Ella pmps 509 +2=475
If I had to guess.....probably because other clients don't home test?
If I had to guess.....probably because other clients don't home test?
Jill & Alex (GA)
Member Since 2009
Re: 4/30 Ella pmps 509 +2=475
it also sounds like your vet is counting on human meters running at least 20% higher in low numbers.
not much of a drop between pmps and +2. i'd grab a before bed spot check though. how do you feel about skipping tomorrow morning's shot no matter what number she gives you in the morning? i think you'll feel a whole lot better about going to work tomorrow if you skip.
it also sounds like your vet is counting on human meters running at least 20% higher in low numbers.
not much of a drop between pmps and +2. i'd grab a before bed spot check though. how do you feel about skipping tomorrow morning's shot no matter what number she gives you in the morning? i think you'll feel a whole lot better about going to work tomorrow if you skip.
Libby and Lucy
Member Since 2009
Re: 4/30 Ella pmps 509 +2=475
I like Jill's idea of skipping tomorrow morning, even if she is still high. I bet she will come down some more on her own, and if she doesn't then at least we'll have a more clear idea of what she needs. We can evaluate tomorrow evening. What do you think?
I like Jill's idea of skipping tomorrow morning, even if she is still high. I bet she will come down some more on her own, and if she doesn't then at least we'll have a more clear idea of what she needs. We can evaluate tomorrow evening. What do you think?
Jill & Alex (GA)
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Re: 4/30 Ella pmps 509 +2=475
here's the thing, we know she can drop from high numbers into double digits. it's your call if you want to shoot at the zero line if she remains where she is, but if she's come down some... i'd skip. she's shown a tendency to drop and drop fast as the bounce is breaking. kwim?
like libby, i think she'll come down some more before morning, but if she's still 468... i'd have a hard time not shooting. lol!tpr said:
here's the thing, we know she can drop from high numbers into double digits. it's your call if you want to shoot at the zero line if she remains where she is, but if she's come down some... i'd skip. she's shown a tendency to drop and drop fast as the bounce is breaking. kwim?
Jill & Alex (GA)
Member Since 2009
get some sleep.
see you tomorrow...
see you tomorrow...
Jill & Alex (GA)
Member Since 2009
when she was on a higher dose she dropped from the 400s at pmps and ended up with a green amps, but that was at a higher dose. i also see cycles with preshots of 295 @ 0.25u and a 367 @ 1.25 units.
ella drops rapidly towards the end of one cycle and the beginning of the next cycle. it makes it hard to predict exactly what she'll do... which makes it rough when you have to get to work. frankly, shooting any insulin when she can't be monitored makes me a little nervous... and i'm used to low numbers.
edited to add:
i have to clarify... shooting when she may be clearing a bounce makes me nervous because she may continue to drop too fast before onset occurs.
ella drops rapidly towards the end of one cycle and the beginning of the next cycle. it makes it hard to predict exactly what she'll do... which makes it rough when you have to get to work. frankly, shooting any insulin when she can't be monitored makes me a little nervous... and i'm used to low numbers.
edited to add:
i have to clarify... shooting when she may be clearing a bounce makes me nervous because she may continue to drop too fast before onset occurs.
Ella & Rusty & Stu(GA)
Member Since 2010
Hey Tamara,
You've had quite a day! Ella too!! Don't overanalyze the situation tonight. You need to sleep. Tomorrow morning you and your "team" will see where she is and decide what dose, if any, to give.
Sleep well. I admire you very much for holding up so well in these difficult circumstances. Brava!
Ella & Rusty
You've had quite a day! Ella too!! Don't overanalyze the situation tonight. You need to sleep. Tomorrow morning you and your "team" will see where she is and decide what dose, if any, to give.
Sleep well. I admire you very much for holding up so well in these difficult circumstances. Brava!
Ella & Rusty
Jill & Alex (GA)
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tamara, i edited my last post to clarify.
Hope you get some rest tonight.
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julie & punkin (ga)
Member Since 2011
i've been gone today - just wanted to lend you a little support tonight. i'm glad you've gotten some awesome advice today! the important thing is that ella is safe.
sleep well!
sleep well!
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