? 4/29/17,Sprocket,AMPS/238, +2.5/168.+3.5/157, +4.5/159, +6.5/179.PMPS/278, +2/233, +4.4/208.

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Darnell & Sprocket (GA)

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It looks like he might have an active cycle today. I would test again at +3.5 or +4. Come on down, nice and easy, Sprocket.
 
When you want to ask a new question, please reply to your own post, as the people that have already read your condo, will not usually go back and re-read the first post if they have already. Here's your question added to your first post above: "Talk of raising him to 3.75u but if he keeps bouncing everytime he goes into 100s cause his body is not used to it, isnt this dose good for awhile because he is getting into good numbers but his body is still bouncing. ??"

My kitty J.D. was a bouncer for his 9 years of being diabetic. It was very frustrating.
This story sticks in my mind. It's an example of what the liver does to save the cat. Let's say a non-diabetic mama cat is out on her own in the woods, trying her best to survive. Because her babies are newborn, she hasn't left them for long enough to find enough food for herself and her BG is getting lower and lower. When it gets to a certain point her liver will release glucogen sp? and other hormones that raise her BGs temporarily (for about 2 days?) that will save her from going hypoglycemic, long enough for her to hopefully get out and find the food she needs.
Bouncing happens. It is natural. A non-diabetic cat's liver may react when they go below 30, because they are normally within a range of about 40 to 80 or so.
Because Sprocket is used to being in the 300s and 200s, his liver is used to those numbers and being a bit sensitive, and then over reacts when he goes into the 100s and below, right now.
That being said, the dose is based on how low the insulin is taking him. The ultimate goal for regulation is to keep him in a range from 50 to 120 as much as possible. With him having ketones and DKA, it is most important that he get enough insulin to keep them at bay.. I would like to see more blues and more greens on his spreadsheet. You do a good job of testing, and can control him with food. It's up to you when you do the increase, you hold the syringe. We just try to help you understand.
Now that the dose threat has been talked about, he will probably have some nice greens today :D

I edited this a zillion times, so hopefully it still makes sense.
 
Dyana said:
When you want to ask a new question, please reply to your own post, as the people that have already read your condo, will not usually go back and re-read the first post if they have already. Here's your question added to your first post above: "Talk of raising him to 3.75u but if he keeps bouncing everytime he goes into 100s cause his body is not used to it, isnt this dose good for awhile because he is getting into good numbers but his body is still bouncing. ??"

My kitty J.D. was a bouncer for his 9 years of being diabetic. It was very frustrating.
This story sticks in my mind. It's an example of what the liver does to save the cat. Let's say a non-diabetic mama cat is out on her own in the woods, trying her best to survive. Because her babies are newborn, she hasn't left them for long enough to find enough food for herself and her BG is getting lower and lower. When it gets to a certain point her liver will release glucogen sp? and other hormones that raise her BGs temporarily (for about 2 days?) that will save her from going hypoglycemic, long enough for her to hopefully get out and find the food she needs.
Bouncing happens. It is natural. A non-diabetic cat's liver may react when they go below 30, because they are normally within a range of about 40 to 80 or so.
Because Sprocket is used to being in the 300s and 200s, his liver is used to those numbers and being a bit sensitive, and then over reacts when he goes into the 100s and below, right now.
That being said, the dose is based on how low the insulin is taking him. The ultimate goal for regulation is to keep him in a range from 50 to 120 as much as possible. With him having ketones and DKA, it is most important that he get enough insulin to keep them at bay.. I would like to see more blues and more greens on his spreadsheet. You do a good job of testing, and can control him with food. It's up to you when you do the increase, you hold the syringe. We just try to help you understand.
Now that the dose threat has been talked about, he will probably have some nice greens today :D

I edited this a zillion times, so hopefully it still makes sense.
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Yes it makes sense but not sure what you mean for replying to my own post to show people whom have already read my post. I was editing same time you two were writing. So a little confused on that.

I am trying to control him with food and testing. Problem is I cant do that daily so its hard to go lower when i cant monitor if i have doc appts to go to. I have been trying to make my appts later but hard to sometimes. Plus i am still doing fluids in afternoon so i have to be here for that.
And as yesterday my cats did this...I went to a funeral and i trusted my autofeeder to open at 3pm. Well it did but they didnt eat till I got home at 330pm.
So if my cats dont eat when I am not home I cant trust him to eat if he goes low.
Plus still trying to get enough sleep. With my medical conditions I used to get 8-10hrs of sleep every night with an hour to take care of the cats at 6am. I have barely gotten 8 hours once every few days but broken up in 2 or 3 hour increments.
So it doesnt leave much time if I have to monitor so much so he doesnt go too low.
Plus he is getting annoyed with so much testing amd fluids.
So thats my dilemna.
 
Darnell & Sprocket said:
Yes it makes sense but not sure what you mean for replying to my own post to show people whom have already read my post. I was editing same time you two were writing. So a little confused on that.
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Because if a person opens a condo that lets say has 3 posts on it (the 1st post and then 2 replies on it), then a few hours later if that person opens that same condo again the program will automatically take them to the first "unread" post which would be the 4th post down. Most people do not then go back up again to the 1st post again and read the post they already read the first time they were in that condo.
 
Ok...so then I repeat....
How do I go up on dose with these issues
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Plus still trying to get enough sleep. With my medical conditions I used to get 8-10hrs of sleep every night with an hour to take care of the cats at 6am. I have barely gotten 8 hours once every few days but broken up in 2 or 3 hour increments.
So it doesnt leave much time if I have to monitor so much so he doesnt go too low.
Plus he is getting annoyed with so much testing amd fluids.
So thats my dilemna.
 
How you plan your schedule is up to you and what your days entail. For me, I had to leave the house at 7:30am for work and would try my hardest to get home somewhere between 5:30pm and 6:00pm. So, because I wanted to get a +1 in before I left in the mornings, I chose to make my PMPS time at 6:00pm as soon as I walked in the door getting home from work, and then I could give his AMPS at 6:00am which allowed me to get a +1 and even a +1.5 if needed before I left for the day. I would try to get to sleep by 8:00pm which allowed me to test up to +2 before going to sleep. Since I have heard that people generally sleep in 4 hour increments? (I don't know how true that is), I would set an alarm to get a +6 at 12:00am and feed some food and then go back to bed as long as his mid-cycle number was okay. Even if I didn't go back to sleep until 1:00am, I could still get another 4 hours of sleep until 5:00am (a total then of 8 hours of sleep). I would do a +11 test at 5:00am as soon as I woke up and then I could compare his +11 test to the AMPS test at 6:00am and that would help me feel more at ease if I could tell he was staying the same or going up or down before I gave his insulin and left for 10.5 hours.
There were occasional times I had to either bring J.D. to work with me for the day, or leave work early to go home and test him (nobody at my company does "lunch breaks"). Any days I had off of work were used for curves, and if he went low at night, then on those times I curved at night and lost some sleep, but he was worth it. And J.D. always went on vacations and trips with me.
Cats do like to throw your plans for a loop, and if you are planning on going somewhere (like have an appointment) they will often choose the time you have to leave to have lower numbers. I always tried to plan my appointments for late in the cycle after nadir, like around +10 if possible.
Sorry, if that doesn't help much. It's just the way I dealt with time schedules and my diabetic cat.
Sprocket will get used to the testing. Does he get special treats? My cat used to run to me as soon as he heard me unzipping the bag to the glucometer and purr during testing, because eventually he found testing to be a pleasurable experience. I hope Sprocket does too eventually.
 
Wow! I am surprised. You has alot of trust in food. A few times I have stopped him going low with food but everytime i use the autofeeder he isnt eating it.
And sleep is a big thing i need for my conditions plus exercise that I have not gotten much of.
I am not complaining but putting out my issues for suggestions on how to do this.

I dont give him treats much because i was told not to. I try to give him extra loving.
I have the freeze dried raw treats that are usually mixed in the dry food. He loves those.
I mostly give food after most of the testing.
 
Darnell & Sprocket said:
And as yesterday my cats did this...I went to a funeral and i trusted my autofeeder to open at 3pm. Well it did but they didnt eat till I got home at 330pm.
So if my cats dont eat when I am not home I cant trust him to eat if he goes low.
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He probably just wasn't hungry

You've said before that when he went low, he started seeking out food (that's totally normal).....if his BG had been low, I'm sure he would have eaten when the feeder opened
 
I agree with Chris and had the same thoughts. The next time he goes into the lighter greens observe him and see if he doesn't go to his feeder to eat when he needs to.
 
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